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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:41 pm    Post subject:

Kershaw's ERA this year if you take out the Coors starts: 1.77
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Who do you guys have between padres and mets?

I have padres winning the series in 3.


Hope the Padres win. I want nothing to do with deGrom and Scherzer in a short series.


Yeah. But if the mets do win then I hope it goes all 3 games. That way degrom only pitches 1 game and we probably don't see him til game 3 or 4.


This is how the schedule would go if the Mets won in 3 games in the WC rd:

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Wild Card Rd:
Fri, Oct 7 - Gm 1 - deGrom
Sat, Oct 8 - Gm 2 - Scherzer
Sun, Oct 9 - Gm 3 - Bassitt

Mon, Oct 10 - off day

NLDS:
Tue, Oct 11 - Gm 1 - Urias vs. Carrasco
Wed, Oct 12 - Gm 2 - Kershaw vs. deGrom

Thu, Oct 13 - off day

Fri, Oct 14 - Gm 3 - Anderson vs. Scherzer
Sat, Oct 15 - Gm 4 - Gonsolin vs. Bassitt
Sun, Oct 16 - Gm 5 - Urias vs. deGrom (short rest)


This is how the schedule would go if the Mets won in 2 games in the WC rd:

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Wild Card Rd:
Fri, Oct 7 - Gm 1 - deGrom
Sat, Oct 8 - Gm 2 - Scherzer

Sun, Oct 9 - off day
Mon, Oct 10 - off day

NLDS:
Tue, Oct 11 - Gm 1 - Urias vs. Bassitt
Wed, Oct 12 - Gm 2 - Kershaw vs. deGrom

Thu, Oct 13 - off day

Fri, Oct 14 - Gm 3 - Anderson vs. Scherzer
Sat, Oct 15 - Gm 4 - Gonsolin vs. Carrasco
Sun, Oct 16 - Gm 5 - Urias vs. deGrom (short rest)


Looks like it'd be pretty much the same either way. Just flip Bassitt and Carrasco in the rotation.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:48 pm    Post subject:

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Kersh career whip watch:

Total Hits + Balls: 2584

Total IP: 2581

Career Whip: 1.0011.

I'm hoping he comes back just to bring that number under 1.

Current modern leaders in WHIP above Kersh?

Rivera, DeGrom. And Kersh has ~1200 more IP than both of them


Worth noting that Kenley Jansen's WHIP is better than that of Rivera, whose mark was an even 1.00; Jansen is at .938 for his career right now. Of course, Rivera pitched about 514 more innings than Jansen has. WAR has also been quite unkind to Jansen. Despite his awesome ERA and WHIP numbers, Baseball Reference WAR has only given him 19.6 career WAR. Rivera is at 56.3. However, Fangraphs has Rivera's mark way lower, at 39.1, with Jansen at 22.3
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:02 pm    Post subject:

I went to my first Dodgers game today in a LONG while. I had no idea that there was so much free parking right next to the stadium. The commute logjam + parking expense has been keeping me away. This is such a game changer.

BTW congrats on the historic season, good luck in the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:16 pm    Post subject:

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I went to my first Dodgers game today in a LONG while. I had no idea that there was so much free parking right next to the stadium. The commute logjam + parking expense has been keeping me away. This is such a game changer.

BTW congrats on the historic season, good luck in the playoffs.


Yeah, if you don't mind walking a little bit further it can work, as long as you get there early enough, I suppose.
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LongBeachPoly wrote:
aprevo15 wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
aprevo15 wrote:
Who do you guys have between padres and mets?

I have padres winning the series in 3.


Hope the Padres win. I want nothing to do with deGrom and Scherzer in a short series.


Yeah. But if the mets do win then I hope it goes all 3 games. That way degrom only pitches 1 game and we probably don't see him til game 3 or 4.


This is how the schedule would go if the Mets won in 3 games in the WC rd:

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Wild Card Rd:
Fri, Oct 7 - Gm 1 - deGrom
Sat, Oct 8 - Gm 2 - Scherzer
Sun, Oct 9 - Gm 3 - Bassitt

Mon, Oct 10 - off day

NLDS:
Tue, Oct 11 - Gm 1 - Urias vs. Carrasco
Wed, Oct 12 - Gm 2 - Kershaw vs. deGrom

Thu, Oct 13 - off day

Fri, Oct 14 - Gm 3 - Anderson vs. Scherzer
Sat, Oct 15 - Gm 4 - Gonsolin vs. Bassitt
Sun, Oct 16 - Gm 5 - Urias vs. deGrom (short rest)


This is how the schedule would go if the Mets won in 2 games in the WC rd:

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Wild Card Rd:
Fri, Oct 7 - Gm 1 - deGrom
Sat, Oct 8 - Gm 2 - Scherzer

Sun, Oct 9 - off day
Mon, Oct 10 - off day

NLDS:
Tue, Oct 11 - Gm 1 - Urias vs. Bassitt
Wed, Oct 12 - Gm 2 - Kershaw vs. deGrom

Thu, Oct 13 - off day

Fri, Oct 14 - Gm 3 - Anderson vs. Scherzer
Sat, Oct 15 - Gm 4 - Gonsolin vs. Carrasco
Sun, Oct 16 - Gm 5 - Urias vs. deGrom (short rest)


Looks like it'd be pretty much the same either way. Just flip Bassitt and Carrasco in the rotation.


Joe Davis and Orel were saying earlier that the mets would save degrom for game 3 of the WC. That way he either pitches on a crucial game or there's a chance he doesn't need to pitch and is available for game 1 of nlds. I'm sure it was just their opinion but I thought it made good sense.

Edit: This of course if they won game 1.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:37 pm    Post subject:

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If they won Game 1, that's an interesting thought, but there's no chance they would do that if they lost Game 1. You can't NOT use him if your team needs the game to stay alive.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:42 pm    Post subject:

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If they won Game 1, that's an interesting thought, but there's no chance they would do that if they lost Game 1. You can't NOT use him if your team needs the game to stay alive.


Yeah. I was assuming if they won game 1 of course.

Right now few sites have Scherzer going game 1. Also on MLB.com Scherzer is the game 1 starter in preview. I know it's not set in stone but I think that is their plan.

If they win with Scherzer then they'll probably save degrom for game 3 if necessary. If they lose with Scherzer then I'm sure degrom will go game 2.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:46 pm    Post subject:

I believe Scherzer has been announced as the Game 1 starter.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:25 am    Post subject:

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I believe Scherzer has been announced as the Game 1 starter.


Man that means they’ve lost faith in deGrom. No doubt in my mind that deGrom starts game 1 if he was dominant.

Feels eerily similar to us last year. Buehler was our no. 1 until the end, when Scherzer overtook him.

Let me rework that schedule:

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Mets win in 3


A) Mets win gm 1

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Wild Card Rd:
Fri, Oct 7 - Gm 1 - Scherzer (W)
Sat, Oct 8 - Gm 2 - Bassitt (L)
Sun, Oct 9 - Gm 3 - deGrom (W)

Mon, Oct 10 - off day

NLDS:
Tue, Oct 11 - Gm 1 - Urias vs. Carrasco
Wed, Oct 12 - Gm 2 - Kershaw vs. Scherzer

Thu, Oct 13 - off day

Fri, Oct 14 - Gm 3 - Anderson vs. deGrom
Sat, Oct 15 - Gm 4 - Gonsolin vs. Bassitt
Sun, Oct 16 - Gm 5 - Urias vs. Scherzer (short rest)





B) Mets lose gm 1

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Wild Card Rd:
Fri, Oct 7 - Gm 1 - Scherzer (L)
Sat, Oct 8 - Gm 2 - deGrom (W)
Sun, Oct 9 - Gm 3 - Bassit (W)

Mon, Oct 10 - off day

NLDS:
Tue, Oct 11 - Gm 1 - Urias vs. Carrasco
Wed, Oct 12 - Gm 2 - Kershaw vs. Scherzer

Thu, Oct 13 - off day

Fri, Oct 14 - Gm 3 - Anderson vs. deGrom
Sat, Oct 15 - Gm 4 - Gonsolin vs. Bassitt
Sun, Oct 16 - Gm 5 - Urias vs. Scherzer (short rest)



Looks the same. So for us, whether they start deGrom gm 2 or 3 doesn’t matter. As long as they go 3 games, the pitching matchups should be the same.


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Mets win in 2

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Wild Card Rd:
Fri, Oct 7 - Gm 1 - Scherzer (W)
Sat, Oct 8 - Gm 2 - Bassitt (W)

Sun, Oct 9 - off day
Mon, Oct 10 - off day

NLDS:
Tue, Oct 11 - Gm 1 - Urias vs. deGrom
Wed, Oct 12 - Gm 2 - Kershaw vs. Scherzer

Thu, Oct 13 - off day

Fri, Oct 14 - Gm 3 - Anderson vs. Bassitt
Sat, Oct 15 - Gm 4 - Gonsolin vs. Carrasco
Sun, Oct 16 - Gm 5 - Urias vs. deGrom (full rest)



I see now why they want to do that. They feel Scherzer can go on short rest, but deGrom can’t.

Yeah huge difference between them winning in 2 vs 3.


So to recap, basically if the Mets lose tomorrow, we’ll know the pitching matchups vs the Mets (if they end up winning).
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:17 am    Post subject:

DuncanIdaho wrote:
Kershaw's ERA this year if you take out the Coors starts: 1.77


My jaw actually dropped. He’s incredible.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:22 am    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
Cutheon wrote:
Kersh career whip watch:

Total Hits + Balls: 2584

Total IP: 2581

Career Whip: 1.0011.

I'm hoping he comes back just to bring that number under 1.

Current modern leaders in WHIP above Kersh?

Rivera, DeGrom. And Kersh has ~1200 more IP than both of them


Worth noting that Kenley Jansen's WHIP is better than that of Rivera, whose mark was an even 1.00; Jansen is at .938 for his career right now. Of course, Rivera pitched about 514 more innings than Jansen has. WAR has also been quite unkind to Jansen. Despite his awesome ERA and WHIP numbers, Baseball Reference WAR has only given him 19.6 career WAR. Rivera is at 56.3. However, Fangraphs has Rivera's mark way lower, at 39.1, with Jansen at 22.3


Dang I didn’t know that about Kenley. That’s ridiculously good. I wonder what it was a few seasons ago, as I imagine it’s only ticked up the past couple years.

Yeah I’ve always noticed as far as closers go, neither bWar nor fWar seem to like Kenley. Not sure why because he’s put up similar counting stats to Rivera, Kimbrel, etc., but they tend to rate higher. Maybe it’s his K-rate. Or playing in the NL. Kimbrel and Kenley had very similar 2017’s and yet Kimbrel has about half a win on him in bwar
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:22 am    Post subject:

Just checked - from debut to 2017, Kenley had a whip of .888
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:25 am    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
C M B wrote:
I went to my first Dodgers game today in a LONG while. I had no idea that there was so much free parking right next to the stadium. The commute logjam + parking expense has been keeping me away. This is such a game changer.

BTW congrats on the historic season, good luck in the playoffs.


Yeah, if you don't mind walking a little bit further it can work, as long as you get there early enough, I suppose.


It's roughly the same distance I used to park from the Staples Center, which is not bad at all.

Maybe it's different for night games.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:36 am    Post subject:

C M B wrote:
I went to my first Dodgers game today in a LONG while. I had no idea that there was so much free parking right next to the stadium. The commute logjam + parking expense has been keeping me away. This is such a game changer.

BTW congrats on the historic season, good luck in the playoffs.


Yeah parking inside Dodger Stadium is a big mistake. Find the best spot near Short Stop/El Compadre, have a drink, and walk up the hill. This is the way.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:24 am    Post subject:

Dave Roberts interview on High Heat:

on Gonsolin:
yes, he will be on the postseason roster. He's exptected to start game 3 or 4.

on Taylor:
if he's ready, he'll be on the roster. He expects him to be ready to go and be on the roster

on his preference between Mets or Padres:
He says as long as they go 3 games, it's good.

on the Dodgers' talent level this year:
most talented team he's ever had. He cites the bullpen.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:41 am    Post subject:

LongBeachPoly wrote:
Dave Roberts interview on High Heat:

on Gonsolin:
yes, he will be on the postseason roster. He's exptected to start game 3 or 4.

on Taylor:
if he's ready, he'll be on the roster. He expects him to be ready to go and be on the roster

on his preference between Mets or Padres:
He says as long as they go 3 games, it's good.

on the Dodgers' talent level this year:
most talented team he's ever had. He cites the bullpen.



Nice vid. Thanks for posting.

Man we are so spoiled when it comes to pitching. I forgot all about Walker. That's how good our pitcher are. Makes you forget about our ace. LOL I can't wait til this guy comes back.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:14 am    Post subject:

We have a draft lottery this year. Forgot about that:

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Nationals, A's, Pirates Have Best Odds At Landing No. 1 Pick In 2023

With the regular season complete, the odds have been set for the top half of next year's Major League Baseball amateur draft.

The latest collective bargaining agreement introduced a lottery to determine the top six selections. The three teams with the worst winning percentage all have identical chances of landing the top picks.

The lottery only comes into play for the first round of the draft. Beginning in the second round, the order is determined in inverse order of the prior season's standings.

Below are the odds to land the first overall pick:

Nationals (55-107): 16.5%
Athletics (60-102): 16.5%
Pirates (62-100, 61-101 in '21): 16.5%

Reds (62-100, 83-79 in '21): 13.25%

Royals (65-97): 10%

Tigers (66-96): 7.5%

Rangers (68-94, 60-102 in '21): 5.5%

Rockies (68-94, 74-87 in '21): 3.9%

Marlins (69-93): 2.7%

Angels (73-89): 1.8%
Diamondbacks (74-88, 52-110 in '21): 1.4%
Cubs (74-88, 71-91 in '21): 1.1%

Twins (78-84, 73-89 in '21): 0.9%
Red Sox (78-84, 92-70 in '21): 0.76%
White Sox (81-81, 93-69 in '21): 0.62%
Giants (81-81, 107-55 in '21): 0.48%
Orioles (83-79): 0.36%
Brewers (86-76): 0.23%


This is pretty cool when the day comes when we don't make the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:21 am    Post subject:

Looks like injury might be why Scherzer is pitching gm 1

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For deGrom, it’s a blood blister on his throwing hand, which has apparently developed during a stretch where he's looked mortal, allowing three or more runs in four straight starts.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:09 am    Post subject:

LongBeachPoly wrote:
Looks like injury might be why Scherzer is pitching gm 1

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For deGrom, it’s a blood blister on his throwing hand, which has apparently developed during a stretch where he's looked mortal, allowing three or more runs in four straight starts.


Yet unfortunately he beasts against us..
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The St. Louis Cardinals will open their Wild Card series against the Philadelphia Phillies with Jose Quintana on the mound.

After Quintana starts Game 1, the Cardinals will turn to Miles Mikolas. Oliver Marmol is undecided about who would start a potential Game 3 with Jack Flaherty, Jordan Montgomery and Adam Wainwright as options.

The Phillies will start Zack Wheeler in Game 1, Aaron Nola in Game 2 and Ranger Suarez if the series gets to Game 3.


Wow, Quintana the gm 1 starter. This feels like Jose Lima for us.

I remember when we struggled vs. Quintana this yr and everyone was pissed for struggling vs. a journeyman pitcher. Who knew he'd be the ace of their staff.

Looking at his stats, looks like he played for the Angels last yr and put up a 6.75 ERA.

Man, seems like anyone who's played for the Angels recently will experience a career surge after they leave.

Looks like St Louis picked up 2 starters at the deadline (Quintana, Montgomery) and both were HR pickups.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:38 am    Post subject:

Battle of the Shanes right now (Tampa Bay vs. Cleveland)

McClanahan vs. Bieber
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The St. Louis Cardinals will open their Wild Card series against the Philadelphia Phillies with Jose Quintana on the mound.

After Quintana starts Game 1, the Cardinals will turn to Miles Mikolas. Oliver Marmol is undecided about who would start a potential Game 3 with Jack Flaherty, Jordan Montgomery and Adam Wainwright as options.

The Phillies will start Zack Wheeler in Game 1, Aaron Nola in Game 2 and Ranger Suarez if the series gets to Game 3.


Wow, Quintana the gm 1 starter. This feels like Jose Lima for us.

I remember when we struggled vs. Quintana this yr and everyone was pissed for struggling vs. a journeyman pitcher. Who knew he'd be the ace of their staff.

Looking at his stats, looks like he played for the Angels last yr and put up a 6.75 ERA.

Man, seems like anyone who's played for the Angels recently will experience a career surge after they leave.

Looks like St Louis picked up 2 starters at the deadline (Quintana, Montgomery) and both were HR pickups.


The Phillies would seem to have the starting pitching advantage for the first 2 games. The betting line for Game 1 is dead even, with both teams listed at -105.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:13 am    Post subject:

Garrett Cleavinger's been so good with the Rays, they're bringing him into the game in a high leverage situation.

8th inning down 2-1.

His numbers with the Rays this year:

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0.64 Whip
18.2ip
25 K


This is payback for us getting Phillips from them. Seems like a fair trade off.
Wonder what they did to unlock this talent out of the kid.
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Interesting. Marte fractured one of his fingers and had been out for awhile and Alvarez is the top prospect in mlb.

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Scoring runs is hard so far vs. playoff pitching. Only 3 runs scored today, all coming from HRs. A solo HR and a game winning 2 run HR.

No score in the 2nd game (St Louis vs. Phila)

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The way Quintana is pitching should give us alot of hope for Tyler Anderson. Seems like doing well in the reg season can carry over into the playoffs as well.

Quintana pulled after 5.1ip. 0 runs, 2 hits

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only 5 runs scored in the first 2 games so far. All 5 came by way of 3 HRs. Goes to show how important HRs are in the playoffs.

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St Louis Cardinals' closer doing a Kimbrel impression right now. Manager asking him to get a 5 out save. Not sure how many times he's done that this year, but it just goes to show how decisions to do things differently in the playoffs can throw players off.

33 pitches today. Might be out for tomorrow's game as well. St Louis is in trouble.
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