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Baron Von Humongous
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| Batguano wrote: | | BynumForThree wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Harden's going to get better as the season goes on and he adjusts, but the slander so many idiots put on Kobe's name in favor of a bearded fat man who has more career made free throws than made field goals was always ridiculous and pathetic. Now maybe they can see it. |
Peak Harden was at an offensive level that rivaled Jordan/Shaq/Lebron/Curry. Hate on his game all you want but he got snubbed out of an MVP (lol Westbrook) and was the greatest scorer of the 3-point-revolution era. It’s not an insult to have him and Kobe compared.
The real travesty here is that Dame got in over Dwight. That makes zero sense objectively. |
It kinda is, actually. He needs to pass Jerry West and Wade before you can even start to entertain the Kobe comparisons. The only thing that Harden has over Kobe is playmaking, and even that is debatable since we only got a small glimpse of what Kobe could've done in a juiced up D'Antoni offense.
Kobe is a superior defender, and it's not even close. Harden has somewhat improved in that area, but he was so bad on the defensive end at one point that that reputation continues to follow him.
Harden also has a tendency to meltdown and play worse in the playoffs compared to his regular season outbursts. For the same reasons we are seeing now, because in the playoffs the refs swallow their whistles and his "style" of play gets exposed very easily. (Imagine Kobe struggling to this degree because of a rule change...)
Harden has also had plenty of help throughout his career with no ring and just ONE Finals appearance to show for it.
Imagine giving Kobe Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka as teammates, then Dwight Howard (for more than one season and not just coming off of back surgery), then prime Chris Paul, then Russell Westbrook again, then Durant and Kyrie. How many rings do you think Kobe would have...?
Kobe also would've never shown up looking like a fat Rick Ross to training camp just because he wanted to be traded. In fact Kobe put up some of his best individual seasons and worked his hardest during the seasons when he had his worst supporting casts with no realistic chance of contending.
BTW, Kobe also got snubbed out of an MVP (LOL Steve Nash) and arguably MULTIPLE MVPs (2003, 2006, 2007) with arguments for other seasons (2009, 2010) as well.
Longevity wise it's not even close. In his early 20's Harden was a bench player while Kobe was already in the running for best player in the league. |
Great rundown. Kobe also moved without the ball because it prepared him to face locked in playoff defenses so it wasn't all iso. Harden lazily stands around when he can't run PnRs.
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