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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:57 am    Post subject: who exactly are our wings?

lebron
stanley johnson
jta
troy brown jr

is that it?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:59 am    Post subject:

Kyrie and Seth curry
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:11 am    Post subject:

Cole Swider will likely play at small forward. You can list him as a wing.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: who exactly are our wings?

nomoreshaq wrote:
lebron
stanley johnson
jta
troy brown jr

is that it?


Right now yes and I'll say Lebron JTA and SJ is probably top 5 group of wings in comparison to what everyone else has.

Golden State has
Wingins, Kaminga and Dante

Suns have
Bridges Cam and Lee

Clippers clearly the best
Kawhi PG and Mann
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:20 am    Post subject:

JUST-MING wrote:
Cole Swider will likely play at small forward. You can list him as a wing.


I forgot about him I rank him higher than Brown
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:59 am    Post subject:

I'm laughing because the exact same question was playing over and over in my mind.

LeBron
Stanley
Troy Brown Jr.
Toscano

Guards/Small Wings:
Lonnie Walker
Reaves
Christie

Center/PF/Big Wings:
AD
Gabriel
Swider

Possible Wings:
O'Neal
Paris Bass
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: who exactly are our wings?

Car54 wrote:
nomoreshaq wrote:
lebron
stanley johnson
jta
troy brown jr

is that it?


Right now yes and I'll say Lebron JTA and SJ is probably top 5 group of wings in comparison to what everyone else has.

Golden State has
Wingins, Kaminga and Dante

Suns have
Bridges Cam and Lee

Clippers clearly the best
Kawhi PG and Mann



Have to agree. They've got impressive depth w/Kennard, Morris, Covington....
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:23 am    Post subject:

Toronto should be on the list
Siakam, Barnes, OG, Trent Jr, Otto, Thad
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 10:52 am    Post subject:

LakerDYnasty72 wrote:
I'm laughing because the exact same question was playing over and over in my mind.

LeBron
Stanley
Troy Brown Jr.
Toscano

Guards/Small Wings:
Lonnie Walker
Reaves
Christie

Center/PF/Big Wings:
AD
Gabriel
Swider

Possible Wings:
O'Neal
Paris Bass


Today it's;

C - AD (PF) & Damian Jones

Small wings - THT, Walker & Reaves

PG- Russ & Nunn

SF - LJ, T. Brown & Toscano

PF- AD, Stanley, Gabriel

We'd need to add Christie, though he's a project, the Lakers paid for him so he'll probably be there.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:07 am    Post subject:

We need a stretch 5. Then AD can fill in part-time in the wing position, especially on defense.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:10 am    Post subject:

Max Christie will flourish and be utilized correctly by Ham and staff. He’s the wing to watch for.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:41 am    Post subject:

The contrast is massive— one of the greatest wings of all time and then a bunch of scrubs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 1:13 pm    Post subject:

gng930 wrote:
Toronto should be on the list
Siakam, Barnes, OG, Trent Jr, Otto, Thad


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 1:39 pm    Post subject:

We have none.

He's in Washington.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:23 pm    Post subject:

I hope we don’t try to sign another old man who played the 3 in his prime but is now too slow to play the 3 and ends up mostly playing the 4 for us

I.e. Deng, Melo, Ariza, etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:09 pm    Post subject:

Cole and Max next year.
Hopefully they're not traded.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:47 pm    Post subject:

Maybe we're picking Markieff back up for the minimum after whatever bigger trades we make are done. He's still available, and we really need that backup position filled.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:38 pm    Post subject:

joeblow wrote:
Maybe we're picking Markieff back up for the minimum after whatever bigger trades we make are done. He's still available, and we really need that backup position filled.


Man I sure hope not!!! T Bryant or bust lol! We currently only have D Jones as C with AD of course capable of playing the 5 tho I would not prefer that so…need more of a C. After getting a C would then like to add TJ Warren, he could fill that Morris role at PF while keeping an eye on Huff at C on the two-way.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:06 am    Post subject:

Hanging from Rafters wrote:
joeblow wrote:
Maybe we're picking Markieff back up for the minimum after whatever bigger trades we make are done. He's still available, and we really need that backup position filled.


Man I sure hope not!!! T Bryant or bust lol! We currently only have D Jones as C with AD of course capable of playing the 5 tho I would not prefer that so…need more of a C. After getting a C would then like to add TJ Warren, he could fill that Morris role at PF while keeping an eye on Huff at C on the two-way.

MM is a backup PF, so snagging him has nothing to do with T. Bryant who is a backup Center. Go for both if possible.

Also, I would take TJ Warren as well, but he probably could get better offers than the minimum we would dangle. Players like him are waiting for Durant to get traded so that money from teams left out in the cold can be spent on fringe talent.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:35 am    Post subject:

Pelinka is insistant on proving his vision of a wingless NBA team is the next innovation of the game. In it's final form, Pelinka will create a team of only 6'2" and shorter guards and only 6'10" and taller forwards/centers. None of you can understand the method to his madness, but trust me, there is a method. Those wing heavy teams will never be able to switch against a team of super-fast small guards and plodding dinosaurs in the paint.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:56 am    Post subject:

RG73 wrote:
Pelinka is insistant on proving his vision of a wingless NBA team is the next innovation of the game. In it's final form, Pelinka will create a team of only 6'2" and shorter guards and only 6'10" and taller forwards/centers. None of you can understand the method to his madness, but trust me, there is a method. Those wing heavy teams will never be able to switch against a team of super-fast small guards and plodding dinosaurs in the paint.


Doesn't he also go the "all playmakers" route every odd year? Or is it every even year?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:27 am    Post subject:

Based on what I've seen of the roster so far.

Troy Brown 6'6 215 could match up with bigger 2s/small 3s.
Stanley Johnson 6'6 240 could match up with bigger 3s and 4s.
Toscano-Anderson is 6'6 209 and could match up with bigger 2s.
Austin Reaves is 6'5 200 and could match up with bigger 2s.

6'4-6'2 guys

Westbrook
Lonnie Walker
THT
Kendrick Nunn

Mainly what I see is the issue is the guys we have who could match up with 2s, and some 3s, they're not very reliable players on offense. Vogel had to go through this all last year, when he subbed in someone like Stanley and Reaves, he got some more defensive effort, but the offense talent dropped.

They definitely need to do a trade where they send out some draft assets, Westbrook, and get back some wings who have starting level talent. Otherwise they're is just not a balanced lineup there. I've listed 8 perimeter guys out there, and can you even list one who is both a reliable shooter off the ball, and also an above average defender?

Pelinka failed so far on all those levels aside from the shot creating ball penetration threat (which we have in WB, Nunn, THT etc). - no floor spacing big that can defend the 5. No defenders at the wing that can shoot well. No stand out shooters that can defend a bit, either. It's July 4, so there's time until camp, but Pelinka did exactly what he does every offseason. He's reached Mitch's status right before he got fired. Lakers deserve better, IMO.
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