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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:58 pm    Post subject:

Even if Ariza gives us good 3-and-D play, we still need another forward like that with legit size who is actually in his 20s.

Even when healthy we're too thin in the frontcourt, and besides AD all of our frontcourt players are old. Bazemore and THT don't count because they're better off playing the 2.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:29 pm    Post subject:

Lol, let me bring this thread back from the dead.

I was reasonably pleased with Ariza's play tonight in a win vs. the Knicks, although it was predictable that he'd get some minutes since NY has a big front line and we are without Carmelo while still being roster thin at the 3/4 slots. His outside shot was iffy (like usual), but he made his FTs and grabbed eight rebounds (which has been a team weakness all season).

Trevor's main contribution was seen on the defensive end, though. Not so much in locking down any particular opponent, but his size and attention to detail helped the overall team defense to make it difficult at times for NY to score. Considering how often Vogel's gone with 3 and even 4 guard lineups this season, I appreciated seeing extended minutes in a game where our front line were all legit players of size when Ariza was on the floor.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:42 am    Post subject:

Well, in this game the Ariza vs Johnson call paid off in Vogel's favor.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:31 am    Post subject:

Good effort from Ariza (11 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 block.
TA made a big three in crunch time and played heady defense most of the night (+11).
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:17 am    Post subject:

ThePageDude wrote:
Well, in this game the Ariza vs Johnson call paid off in Vogel's favor.
. I think Ariza and Johnson next to Monk, Bron, Davis should be the closing line up... if they are sagging off from johnson too much than reeves but def not westbrook
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:43 am    Post subject:

That three - Lebron really wanted Trev to get the ball there that whole play, almost like a fake with AD, so Ariza could hit a clutch shot. If I am reading that right, then Lebron with the psychology and leadership, getting guys ready.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:49 am    Post subject:

I honestly beleive that Ariza is just rounding into basketball shape. His slow start was the result of him working through his recovery from injuries and, of course, his age.

I'm expecting him to contribute to any chance we have to show some sort of continuity and consistency if he stays healthy the rest of the way
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:16 pm    Post subject:

Ariza is this year’s Horry/Rondo.

They will mostly limit themselves to street clothes during the regular season so they have enough juice to show out in the postseason.

Problem is, we don’t have the luxury (pun-intended) of young legs to carry us through the regular season so that our vets can prevent taxing their legs to stay fresh for the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:27 pm    Post subject:

vasashi17+ wrote:
Ariza is this year’s Horry/Rondo.


Nope. He looks like Deandre Jordan out there. He can't move. He can't shoot. It feels like all of his baskets have been layups.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:28 pm    Post subject:

I had a look at his shot chart

Yuck

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/arizatr01/shooting/2022
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:34 pm    Post subject:

All I’m looking for from him is 20-25mins of wing defense (so Bron doesn’t have to do it) along with a few timely shots in the postseason. Save his legs during the regular season and I feel that really ain’t a big ask from him.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:38 pm    Post subject:

I think you expect too much, 12-15 mpg he might be able to sustain.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:48 pm    Post subject:

^^ Fellas…

2018/19 Regular Season: 34mins per
2019/20 RS: 28.2mins
2020/21 RS: 28mins
2021/22 RS: 19.4mins

2020/21 postseason: 24mins

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/arizatr01.html

Granted a lot of RS missed games and only 4 PS games last season, but 20-25mins per for the playoffs ain’t a ridiculous ask. It is ridiculous tho that he is our only defensive wing on the roster behind Bron.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:54 pm    Post subject:

Can you really call Trevor a defensive wing? Who is he guarding on the wing?

I supported the signing because I thought he could run on the break. He gets ZERO hustle baskets. He was never a lockdown defender in the first place. His value was in his hustle plays, steals in the passing lanes. He doesn't do that anymore. We get that from Stanley.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:03 pm    Post subject:

01/23/2022


What does Trevor add to this team?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:27 pm    Post subject:

If Lakers FO does not consider as top priority acquiring a 6-8 or so forward with some defensive ability so we could sit Ariza, then everyone, from Lebron James down lol should be fired. This is the most glaring weakness of this team.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:24 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:28 am    Post subject:

Coincidence they signed Luol Deng after his 2016 season (12 Pts 6 Reb 2 Ast) in Miami and Trevor Ariza after his 2021 season (10 Pts 5 Reb 2 Ast) in Miami and they were the exact same player. Fortunately, Trevor wasn't signed to a 4 year, $72 million contract.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 12:38 am    Post subject:

Fun fact. When Ariza plays 30 mins or more, Lakers are undefeated. So if they want to go 82 - 0 next season, put Ariza in the starting lineup
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