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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:26 pm    Post subject:

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The AR experiment has failed. He's not ready for the big show.

Put him on the Bench, and move AD to the 4 along with Hayes or Wood. Start DLO, RUI with Bron


Been saying it AR is a better bench player. I mean he is a top3 6moy type of bench player which is not a bad thing at all.

His numbers also shows that he’s better as a bench guy. Better offensively and defensively. Efficiency is also much better.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:58 pm    Post subject:

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The AR experiment has failed. He's not ready for the big show.

Put him on the Bench, and move AD to the 4 along with Hayes or Wood. Start DLO, RUI with Bron


That might be the worst defensive starting group that we could field. Lebron and Rui have more success guarding PFs, not SGs.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:33 pm    Post subject:

Here's the lineups they should run, till Reaves finds himself, but also to force Darvin to play Dinwiddie as the backup 1 and not the 3 with the starters...

Starters:
DLO
Max Christie
Rui Hachimura
LeBron James
Anthony Davis

Bench:
Spencer Dinwiddie
Austin Reaves
Taurean Prince
Jaxson Hayes

That's what we should running. When Reddish gets back put him with the bench unit, when Vando comes back put him with that unit too or move him to the starters. But either way, this is what we should be running with the current state of things.

Starting lineup works on length and size, as well as Max Christie putting up elite numbers as a spot up three point shooter, which is WHY we should be utilizing him in that role more instead of people that brick in that position.

You got DLO, Rui, LeBron, AD as 4 capable of getting their own shots and scoring, you have DLO, Max, Rui, LeBron as 40% three point shooters, so there's your spacing. You have Max, Rui and AD for length on defense, and LeBron when he wishes to be, and DLO already much better at that this season.

Then you got the bench for scoring as well as hustle. Allows Spencer to attack going downhill and lets Reaves find his own shot against benches. Taurean as the spot up shooter and Hayes as the roll man/hype/hustle man.

That should work just fine for what we have to play right now.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:52 pm    Post subject:

Inverse wrote:
Zillethai wrote:
The AR experiment has failed. He's not ready for the big show.

Put him on the Bench, and move AD to the 4 along with Hayes or Wood. Start DLO, RUI with Bron


If ham adjusted with this lineup in the 2nd half we wouldve won today. he shouldve started Hayes with AD and Rui in front court with bron and dlo running the guard spots. we got crushed on the defensive end today and seemed like we gave them every offensive board they wanted. But ham never adjusted


Suns with 51 boards to our 34..... 14 offensive rebounds to our 3.

Ham is going to die on the "3 guard line up" hill
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:58 pm    Post subject:

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Starters:
DLO
Max Christie
Rui Hachimura
LeBron James
Anthony Davis



If you have to play AD at 5, then this is probably the best option TBH
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:10 pm    Post subject:

Zillethai wrote:
Inverse wrote:
Zillethai wrote:
The AR experiment has failed. He's not ready for the big show.

Put him on the Bench, and move AD to the 4 along with Hayes or Wood. Start DLO, RUI with Bron


If ham adjusted with this lineup in the 2nd half we wouldve won today. he shouldve started Hayes with AD and Rui in front court with bron and dlo running the guard spots. we got crushed on the defensive end today and seemed like we gave them every offensive board they wanted. But ham never adjusted


Suns with 51 boards to our 34..... 14 offensive rebounds to our 3.

Ham is going to die on the "3 guard line up" hill
exactly. It makes no sense
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:59 pm    Post subject:

Itsowheeze wrote:
Zillethai wrote:
Inverse wrote:
Zillethai wrote:
The AR experiment has failed. He's not ready for the big show.

Put him on the Bench, and move AD to the 4 along with Hayes or Wood. Start DLO, RUI with Bron


If ham adjusted with this lineup in the 2nd half we wouldve won today. he shouldve started Hayes with AD and Rui in front court with bron and dlo running the guard spots. we got crushed on the defensive end today and seemed like we gave them every offensive board they wanted. But ham never adjusted


Suns with 51 boards to our 34..... 14 offensive rebounds to our 3.

Ham is going to die on the "3 guard line up" hill
exactly. It makes no sense
They choose to get back on D instead of going for the offensive rebound. AD getting in foul trouble in the 1st was the difference this game. That being said, AR had an awful game on the defensive end, was lost half the time. Once Vando comes back lineup has to be

Lebron/Din
DLo/AR
Vando/Max/Reddish
Rui/Prince/Wood
AD/Hayes
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:56 am    Post subject:

Some tough D in the 4th. What a sight for the sore eyes.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:53 am    Post subject:

Im not sure what ARs role on this team is. Playmaker? Spot up shooter? Dlo and Bron are better playmakers, and Prince and RUI are better spot up shooters.

His 3pt shot is inconsistent, and he has trouble beating his man off the dribble and finishing. And then he is a huge liability on defense.

Dlo is a liability on defense too, but he makes up for it with his reliable 3pt shooting and playmaking

AR needs the ball in his hand... but how does that help this team? You could bench him, but honestly Id rather have Spencer leading the second unit than AR.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:27 am    Post subject:

Zillethai wrote:
Im not sure what ARs role on this team is. Playmaker? Spot up shooter? Dlo and Bron are better playmakers, and Prince and RUI are better spot up shooters.

His 3pt shot is inconsistent, and he has trouble beating his man off the dribble and finishing. And then he is a huge liability on defense.

Dlo is a liability on defense too, but he makes up for it with his reliable 3pt shooting and playmaking

AR needs the ball in his hand... but how does that help this team? You could bench him, but honestly Id rather have Spencer leading the second unit than AR.


AR is a better off the bench ballhandler scorer. He was playing at a 6moy pace early this season. Problem is we needed an athletic defensive SG next to DLO. We tried to fill it with TP and Cam but both were not sustainable. Reason they had to put AR back as a starter.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:50 am    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
Zillethai wrote:
Im not sure what ARs role on this team is. Playmaker? Spot up shooter? Dlo and Bron are better playmakers, and Prince and RUI are better spot up shooters.

His 3pt shot is inconsistent, and he has trouble beating his man off the dribble and finishing. And then he is a huge liability on defense.

Dlo is a liability on defense too, but he makes up for it with his reliable 3pt shooting and playmaking

AR needs the ball in his hand... but how does that help this team? You could bench him, but honestly Id rather have Spencer leading the second unit than AR.


AR is a better off the bench ballhandler scorer. He was playing at a 6moy pace early this season. Problem is we needed an athletic defensive SG next to DLO. We tried to fill it with TP and Cam but both were not sustainable. Reason they had to put AR back as a starter.


Funny enough if Max develops the way we all hope he should, he fills in that defensive SG with offensively ability hole for the lakers so perfectly.

I'm high on Max as well, so hopefully he can make a leap next season.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:12 pm    Post subject:

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miggz23 wrote:
Zillethai wrote:
Im not sure what ARs role on this team is. Playmaker? Spot up shooter? Dlo and Bron are better playmakers, and Prince and RUI are better spot up shooters.

His 3pt shot is inconsistent, and he has trouble beating his man off the dribble and finishing. And then he is a huge liability on defense.

Dlo is a liability on defense too, but he makes up for it with his reliable 3pt shooting and playmaking

AR needs the ball in his hand... but how does that help this team? You could bench him, but honestly Id rather have Spencer leading the second unit than AR.


AR is a better off the bench ballhandler scorer. He was playing at a 6moy pace early this season. Problem is we needed an athletic defensive SG next to DLO. We tried to fill it with TP and Cam but both were not sustainable. Reason they had to put AR back as a starter.


Funny enough if Max develops the way we all hope he should, he fills in that defensive SG with offensively ability hole for the lakers so perfectly.

I'm high on Max as well, so hopefully he can make a leap next season.


Max cant develop playing 5 minutes per game. AR needs to be benched STAT. Give Max his spot.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 3:02 pm    Post subject:

Zillethai wrote:
Im not sure what ARs role on this team is. Playmaker? Spot up shooter? Dlo and Bron are better playmakers, and Prince and RUI are better spot up shooters.

His 3pt shot is inconsistent, and he has trouble beating his man off the dribble and finishing. And then he is a huge liability on defense.

Dlo is a liability on defense too, but he makes up for it with his reliable 3pt shooting and playmaking

AR needs the ball in his hand... but how does that help this team? You could bench him, but honestly Id rather have Spencer leading the second unit than AR.


AR hate is real, lol 😂. You must have hated him last year also.Yes he is slow and not very athletic, but u know he is clutch in the end. We should have lost the last 2 games without AR. Great stop on Harden that lead to a steal and last game great block on Poole and game tying basket to put us in OT.

Last year stat 13.0 pts 3.0 reb 3.4 ast .529 fg% .398 3p%
This year stat 15.6 pts 4.0 reb 5.4 ast .490 fg% .360 3p%

Stat wise he is not that far off from last year. Problem is we have a coach that don’t seem to know how make it a little easier for AR. Coach like to switch, don’t hedge on pick and roll to help slow and make it easier to recover. Vando’s and Dennis ‘s absence has really made AR look bad on D. When we apply pressure on the ball handler like Vando and Dennis did last year it helps hide AR deficiency because he is a smart position player. As far as Max, Prince minutes needs to drop, so Max can develop and that is all about the coach. LMAO we have 2 timeout and he let LBJ sit at the scorers table. Timeout never got used and transferred over to OT.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:52 pm    Post subject:

Zillethai wrote:
DA1 wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
Zillethai wrote:
Im not sure what ARs role on this team is. Playmaker? Spot up shooter? Dlo and Bron are better playmakers, and Prince and RUI are better spot up shooters.

His 3pt shot is inconsistent, and he has trouble beating his man off the dribble and finishing. And then he is a huge liability on defense.

Dlo is a liability on defense too, but he makes up for it with his reliable 3pt shooting and playmaking

AR needs the ball in his hand... but how does that help this team? You could bench him, but honestly Id rather have Spencer leading the second unit than AR.


AR is a better off the bench ballhandler scorer. He was playing at a 6moy pace early this season. Problem is we needed an athletic defensive SG next to DLO. We tried to fill it with TP and Cam but both were not sustainable. Reason they had to put AR back as a starter.


Funny enough if Max develops the way we all hope he should, he fills in that defensive SG with offensively ability hole for the lakers so perfectly.

I'm high on Max as well, so hopefully he can make a leap next season.


Max cant develop playing 5 minutes per game. AR needs to be benched STAT. Give Max his spot.


Christi has not done (bleep). How about you hate on Dinwiddie…
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:52 pm    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
Zillethai wrote:
Im not sure what ARs role on this team is. Playmaker? Spot up shooter? Dlo and Bron are better playmakers, and Prince and RUI are better spot up shooters.

His 3pt shot is inconsistent, and he has trouble beating his man off the dribble and finishing. And then he is a huge liability on defense.

Dlo is a liability on defense too, but he makes up for it with his reliable 3pt shooting and playmaking

AR needs the ball in his hand... but how does that help this team? You could bench him, but honestly Id rather have Spencer leading the second unit than AR.


AR is a better off the bench ballhandler scorer. He was playing at a 6moy pace early this season. Problem is we needed an athletic defensive SG next to DLO. We tried to fill it with TP and Cam but both were not sustainable. Reason they had to put AR back as a starter.


Thank god you are not the coach. You are clueless
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:01 am    Post subject:

Consider this,

Russell, who a lot of people say is shooting the best in his career has a true shooting percentage of .591. Reaves, who a lot of people say has been struggling on offense has a true shooting percentage of .621.

This is not to put them against each other, but to show how expectations are different depending on the player.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:59 am    Post subject:

Update - expectation is just so high, he doing just fine to me.

Last year stat 13.0 pts 3.0 reb 3.4 ast .529 fg% .398 3p%
This year stat 15.7 pts 4.0 reb 5.6 ast .498 fg% .370 3p%
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:45 am    Post subject:

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Update - expectation is just so high, he doing just fine to me.

Last year stat 13.0 pts 3.0 reb 3.4 ast .529 fg% .398 3p%
This year stat 15.7 pts 4.0 reb 5.6 ast .498 fg% .370 3p%


Highest turnovers in his career, don’t let him handle the ball.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:16 am    Post subject:

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Update - expectation is just so high, he doing just fine to me.

Last year stat 13.0 pts 3.0 reb 3.4 ast .529 fg% .398 3p%
This year stat 15.7 pts 4.0 reb 5.6 ast .498 fg% .370 3p%


Highest turnovers in his career, don’t let him handle the ball.


hIgHeSt tUrNoVers

Forget those 2 assists more, it's the half of a turnover more he's averaging that's a huge issue.. dOn'T lEt HiM hAnDlE tHe BaLl
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:23 am    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
DLaker wrote:
Update - expectation is just so high, he doing just fine to me.

Last year stat 13.0 pts 3.0 reb 3.4 ast .529 fg% .398 3p%
This year stat 15.7 pts 4.0 reb 5.6 ast .498 fg% .370 3p%


Highest turnovers in his career, don’t let him handle the ball.


hIgHeSt tUrNoVers

Forget those 2 assists more, it's the half of a turnover more he's averaging that's a huge issue.. dOn'T lEt HiM hAnDlE tHe BaLl


also... Right around the same as Russell. Should he not handle the ball too?

2.1 vs 2
Davis is at 2
Lebron is at 3.2

6 assists to 2 TO is very good actually, but who cares about that right?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:27 pm    Post subject:

Reaves is still ahead of Steve Nash's first three seasons.

Be careful about discarding him too easily in a trade

Reaves vs. Nash
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:50 pm    Post subject:

lakersfan32 wrote:
reaves needs this



this is an awesome video...I wish our guys were even remotely as close to be as good dribblers (or shooters as pistol Pete/
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:32 am    Post subject:

With the way he has been able to pull himself out of a big slump this season, I would say its pretty clear last season was not a fluke. He is rounding out right back into shape. He's looking a lot more like he did on both ends last season. If only we could get Vando back to help jump start our defense.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:11 am    Post subject:

Ehh, solid offense production(in league where offense is at an all-time high) while being a sieve on defense isn't that valuable.

Upside? The guy turns 26 in a few months.

What elite skills does this guy have that possesses anyone to think he'll be much more than he already is?

Truth be told, a part of me thinks Schroder would've helped this team more than AR did this season.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:18 am    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
DLaker wrote:
Update - expectation is just so high, he doing just fine to me.

Last year stat 13.0 pts 3.0 reb 3.4 ast .529 fg% .398 3p%
This year stat 15.7 pts 4.0 reb 5.6 ast .498 fg% .370 3p%


Highest turnovers in his career, don’t let him handle the ball.


hIgHeSt tUrNoVers

Forget those 2 assists more, it's the half of a turnover more he's averaging that's a huge issue.. dOn'T lEt HiM hAnDlE tHe BaLl


3rd year player at that
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