I for one am not a huge fan of the + or - stat, as it is misleading and not a true barometer of a players performance. There are to many influences that impact this stat that are beyond the control of a player. Its nice to talk about but there are other stats that are more important. AR has had very good games where he was a minus and games where he was a positive and did not play up to snuff. For example, just look at the last 2 games. He obviously had a GREAT game last night. On the previous game against the Pistons he had a higher positive game yet in reality he had a subpar game and clearly did not have the impact he had last night. I am not complaining though as we got some W's and hopefully we are turning the corner.
Last edited by RI Laker on Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:24 am; edited 3 times in total
When AR and DLO are clicking they're the best backcourt in the NBA imo. If not Top 3.
Kyrie and Luka
And until they correct it in the postseason Murray and KCP got that
To be fair, MJST did say at least top 3. So Kyrie/Luka, and Murray/KCP are better, that still leaves the 3rd spot open. _________________ ZOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!
According to this DLO has improved defensively and Reaves has regressed. But what's the numbers when Vando is with Reaves?
DLO/Reaves/Vanderbilt has a +9.3 net rating, but they have only played a 101 minutes together all season long. That's on Ham.
Regarding DLO's defense, he does seem to be making more of an effort on defense this season.
How is Vando missing half the season on Ham? _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
When AR and DLO are clicking they're the best backcourt in the NBA imo. If not Top 3.
Kyrie and Luka
And until they correct it in the postseason Murray and KCP got that
To be fair, MJST did say at least top 3. So Kyrie/Luka, and Murray/KCP are better, that still leaves the 3rd spot open.
Holiday/Brown
Steph/Klay (Steph by himself really lol)
Mitchell/Garland
Conley/Edwards
Giddey/Shai
Ok, I'm tired. There are more, but I like our guys. Statement is just a bit cray.
Jalen/Hart
Harden/PG13
Fox/Monk (actually, they’re kinda here) _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
When AR and DLO are clicking they're the best backcourt in the NBA imo. If not Top 3.
Kyrie and Luka
And until they correct it in the postseason Murray and KCP got that
To be fair, MJST did say at least top 3. So Kyrie/Luka, and Murray/KCP are better, that still leaves the 3rd spot open.
Holiday/Brown
Steph/Klay (Steph by himself really lol)
Mitchell/Garland
Conley/Edwards
Giddey/Shai
Ok, I'm tired. There are more, but I like our guys. Statement is just a bit cray.
lol Came back with a whole list, eh? Fair enough, fair enough.
That said, I disagree with those listed being better than DLo/AR. Those combos have displayed a more consistent positive product on the floor, true. But, I would argue that is because they were placed in a better position to succeed. It's only been recently that our coaching staff have done the same with DLo/AR. And, over the last souple weeks, we've seen the results. Would we be saying the same thing if we had been getting this same level of production from the start?
Of course, I realize that this is all just my personal opinion, mixed with speculation. We can agree to disagree. _________________ ZOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!
When AR and DLO are clicking they're the best backcourt in the NBA imo. If not Top 3.
Kyrie and Luka
And until they correct it in the postseason Murray and KCP got that
I don't think, watching the game, Luka and Kyrie are that good of a combination.
At their best. Kyrie and Luka are on a different planet
Luka +4 at the PG
Kyrie is +3.2 at backup PG and a +8.9 as a starting SG
Luka is 34 points, 9 Rebs, 10 asts on 49/38/78 splits
Kyrie is 26 points, 5 Rebs, 6 asts on 49/41/88 splits
They have the most inept front court rotation in the league. Hardaway was their sub for both of them to start the year, and then they realized they were getting nothing outside them 3 so they just started him with them. But the PF and C spots have been trash all year. Whoever booked that rotation should be fired for that as they went in the year with no 3, 4, or 5 worth a damn but had the Luka/Kyrie/Hardaway trio backcourt perfect
Their regular gear is just different than Russell and Reaves at their best. And at their very best Kyrie and Luka are what 90 - 100 points, 20 boards, 20 assists between them? Come on 😂
Murray and KCP are still their “daddy” until the playoffs show different as they outplayed them too.
And if we were going three. Edwards and Conley would be taken over them for me because Ant is a star on both ends and Conley is just so damn smart
@LakersEmpire
4 Lakers players are averaging 20+ PPG & 5+ APG in the Month of February
LeBron James | 24.2 PTS | 8.3 AST
Anthony Davis | 24.5 PTS | 5.0 AST
D’Angelo Russell | 20.3 PTS | 8.2 AST
Austin Reaves | 20.3 PTS | 6.9 AST
Look at those assists! I’d give some flower to Ham. Can’t wait to have all out defensive dawgs back. Vando-Cam-Max-Gabe, can’t believe we out of all 4 POA at the same time _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
If Max continues on his trajectory I'd like to see him start next to D'lo in the future. It reduces your defensive liability, gives Rui a bigger role and allows Austin more freedom off the bench. D'lo/AR/Max/Spencer/Gabe is a very well rounded guard corps. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points."
When AR and DLO are clicking they're the best backcourt in the NBA imo. If not Top 3.
Kyrie and Luka
And until they correct it in the postseason Murray and KCP got that
To be fair, MJST did say at least top 3. So Kyrie/Luka, and Murray/KCP are better, that still leaves the 3rd spot open.
Holiday/Brown
Steph/Klay (Steph by himself really lol)
Mitchell/Garland
Conley/Edwards
Giddey/Shai
Ok, I'm tired. There are more, but I like our guys. Statement is just a bit cray.
Most of those pairs are carried by one person. DLo and AR are both better than Conley, Giddey, and the current version of Klay.
To they show up vs Conley I’m not calling it. He still shoots better, defenders better, passes better than AR. He still doesn’t choke like Dlo in the big games
And last time the three of them met in a meaningful environment was the play in 7 8 game last year and Conley outplayed both put together. Edwards is largely better than both and Conley is marginally better with age being his only limitation. It was Denis not either guard that played well vs Conley as Conley clamped Dlos ass
When AR and DLO are clicking they're the best backcourt in the NBA imo. If not Top 3.
Kyrie and Luka
And until they correct it in the postseason Murray and KCP got that
To be fair, MJST did say at least top 3. So Kyrie/Luka, and Murray/KCP are better, that still leaves the 3rd spot open.
Holiday/Brown
Steph/Klay (Steph by himself really lol)
Mitchell/Garland
Conley/Edwards
Giddey/Shai
Ok, I'm tired. There are more, but I like our guys. Statement is just a bit cray.
Most of those pairs are carried by one person. DLo and AR are both better than Conley, Giddey, and the current version of Klay.
To they show up vs Conley I’m not calling it. He still shoots better, defenders better, passes better than AR. He still doesn’t choke like Dlo in the big games
And last time the three of them met in a meaningful environment was the play in 7 8 game last year and Conley outplayed both put together. Edwards is largely better than both and Conley is marginally better with age being his only limitation. It was Denis not either guard that played well vs Conley as Conley clamped Dlos ass
Guys like Conley have been in the league for awhile so the barometer should be the playoff. They are what they are in the regular season. It’s the playoff that they can go to another gear.
Austin out of rhythm and looking rusty. idk what he did during all-star break but he's on his beginning of the season slump right now. Let's hope he gets out of it much faster!
Austin out of rhythm and looking rusty. idk what he did during all-star break but he's on his beginning of the season slump right now. Let's hope he gets out of it much faster!
Also.. STOP TRYING TO BE A POINT GUARD :3
Shot it at 64%/40% last night...
He does looks rusty a bit. But tough assignment for him last night having to guard Steph and Klay around screens first game back from a long lay-off.
Tonight I'm just hoping legs was tired a bit from playing b2b games.
The AR experiment has failed. He's not ready for the big show.
Put him on the Bench, and move AD to the 4 along with Hayes or Wood. Start DLO, RUI with Bron
If ham adjusted with this lineup in the 2nd half we wouldve won today. he shouldve started Hayes with AD and Rui in front court with bron and dlo running the guard spots. we got crushed on the defensive end today and seemed like we gave them every offensive board they wanted. But ham never adjusted _________________ He's my GOAT
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
