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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:39 pm    Post subject:

AD is eligible to sign an extension next season that would kick in for the 2023/24 season...will he?

I don’t think so. Here’s why.

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League source: Should the NBA sign a new TV deal worth $75 billion, early projections indicate that a 2025 salary cap number of $171 million is possible, assuming no cap smoothing.

Should the NBPA instead agree to cap smoothing, it's likely the league will still see annual increases to the extent of $15 million, according to source.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mortenjensen/2021/09/19/with-new-tv-deal-looming-nba-teams-could-spend-big-on-extensions/


AD has a 43.2m early termination option for the 2024/25 season....meaning he’s an UFA for that potential 2025 FA class cap spike if he elects to bypass his ETO.

It’s also worth noting that the current CBA expires after the 2023/24 season where a decision in Dec 2022 could enable an early opt out of the current CBA after the 2022/23 season. Decisions on cap smoothing could play a part in negotiations as to whether the current CBA sticks or not.

As of right now, the rule is the salary cap has to increase yearly by at least 3%, but can go up by a max of 10%. It should be noted that due to the extenuating circumstances of COVID, the salary cap did not experience the normal minimum 3% annual increase from the 2019/20 season to the 2020/21 season...as a result of the financial struggles of a COVID environment and its impact on regular season sales, both seasons experienced an identically set salary cap of 109.1m. As a result, we can expect at least some form of cap correction moving forward.

Let’s assume cap smoothing is agreed upon in order to prevent another KD to 73-win dubs event from happening again. That would insinuate the annual salary cap would increase by the max 10% allowed up until the current CBA expires in ‘24 or when the new TV deal kicks in by ‘25 in an effort to smooth the cap over.

FYI: current projections have the salary cap/tax line for the 2022/23 season set to 119m/145m which would be about a 6% increase from this season. All projections below reflect a max 10% annual increase that the current CBA allots. Again this is an assumption made in an effort to cap smooth before the potential 2025 TV deal kicks in impacting the salary cap projections at that time.

2021/22
Salary cap: 112.4m
Tax line: 136.6m
35% max (10+ seasoned player/designated vet): 39.3m
30% max (7-9 seasoned player/designated rookie): 33.7m
25% max (0-6 seasoned player): 28.1m
non taxpayer MLE: 9.5m
taxpayer MLE: 5.9m
room MLE: 4.9m
Biannual exception: 3.7m
Veteran minimum exception: 1.7m cap hit /2.6m (for 10+ vet min, where 900k difference covered by league)

2022/23
Cap: 123.6m
Tax: 150.3m
35%: 43.3m
30%: 37.1m
25%: 30.9m
ntMLE: 10.5m
tMLE: 6.5m
rMLE: 5.4m
BAE: 4.1m
VM: 1.9m/2.9m

2023/24
Cap: 136m
Tax: 165.3m
35%: 47.6m
30%: 40.8m
25%: 34m
ntMLE: 11.6m
tMLE: 7.2m
rMLE: 5.9m
BAE: 4.5m
VM: 2.1m/3.2m

2024/25
Cap: 149.6m
Tax: 181.8m
35%: 52.4m
30%: 44.9m
25%: 37.4m
ntMLE: 12.8m
tMLE: 7.9m
rMLE: 6.5m
BAE: 5m
VM: 2.3m/3.5m

So by the time we get to the summer of 2025, when the new 75B TV deal kicks in, the 10% annual max escalators acting as baseline mechanics into cap smoothing before ‘25 hits, will still get you a projection of 164.6m, which is short of the early 171m projection. It’s possible at that time a spike still occurs but only of the 10-15% increase as opposed to the nearly 35% increase experienced in 2016.

Also notice that each year experiences nearly the 15m increase projected in the Forbes report. So at least you have a loose projection of how the money will break down from year to year.

Who knows, maybe AD does extend next year seeing how he did lock in a full 5yr deal based off his injury concerns. Still, coming into potential cap spike money in ‘25 as a 35% max eligible player at the young age of 32 might be too hard to pass up for him.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:20 pm    Post subject:

See Dudz, we did go younger. So how far above the tax line does this Reaves kid leave us?

1. Russ 44.2m
2. Bron 41.2m
3. AD 35.4m
4. THT 9.5m
5. Nunn 5m
6. Melo 1.7m
7. Dwight 1.7m
8. Baze 1.7m
9. Ariza 1.7m
10. Monk 1.7m
11. Ellington 1.7m
12. Rondo 1.7m
13. DJ 1.7m
14. Reaves 925k (counts as 1.7m cap hit towards taxes)
Deng corpse 5m
= 154.8m in team salary
= 41.8m in taxes (ie 19m over tax line)
= 196.6m in combined team salary + associated luxury taxes
note: salary/taxes are all rounded up to the nearest tenth aka decimal point

Since Reaves is an undrafted rookie, he is eligible to sign a rookie minimum of 925k. This is the reason his minimum won’t count as a cap hit of 1.7m like all our other veteran minimum players did. However, he will count as a 1.7m cap hit towards luxury taxes. So counts as 925k towards trades and counts as 1.7m towards tax calculations.

It’s been reported that he signed a 2 year deal where his 2nd year is guaranteed via a team option. Had we saved at least 925k from our 5.89m mMLE instead of the the 890k we left unrealized after Nunn took 5m off of it, then we could gave given Reaves a deal that was longer than 2 years in length. A rookie minimum contract can only be topped off at 2 years in length, however the mMLE (or a portion of it) can be up to 3 years in length. As a result we will only have early bird rights to Reaves (assuming he sticks for his entire 2yr deal) as opposed to full bird rights we could have had at the end of a 3yr deal. So assuming we have no cap space in the summer of ‘23, the max we can offer him as an early bird RFA is 105% of the average NBA salary in the 2022/23 season (~12-15m; variance based on cap smoothing/favorable salary cap COVID corrective projections). This is exactly the situation that we experienced with THT this summer.

Since Reaves leaves his 2-way spot, we now have a roster of 14 guaranteed contracts + 1 2-way (Ayayi). This allows us to still add 2 more to the roster: 1 via a mid-season add (ie “rest-of-season” contract) & 1 via a now vacated 2-way slot.

And with this, I believe the roster is all but set till we hit that #BuyoutSZNPrimer. Till then, we soon should find out when the official trade deadline date will be set to and when we do I’ll try working on a TradeSZNPrimer update for this thread. Early forecast: we are lined up for minimal activity at the trade deadline...but it is a long season.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:55 pm    Post subject:

With Ariza out for at least 8 weeks, THT battling a hand injury and Monk having to rehab his groin, which is an injury that typically lingers, what can we do to replace their production in the interim?

First thing is first, it depends on if ownership is open to paying an additional tax. They have shown to this point, not to be receptive in doing so.

Remember, even if they use our open 15th roster spot to sign a nonguaranteed vet min deal, the days that player provides us before he gets waived ahead of his guaranteed trigger date (Jan 10, 2022), will still yield a prorated tax hit where our current tax rate of 3.25 is applied to every dollar that comes from each day provided of service by a potential nonguaranteed player: 1/174 (ie 174 total regular season games between opening night on Oct 19, 2021 to end of regular season on April 10, 2022) of 2yr+ vet min deal @ 1.67m.

So for example, if we sign Ennis to the final 15th roster slot on a fully nonguaranteed deal and we keep him up until Jan 7th at which point we waive him (ie has to be waived and clear waivers before “cut-down” date of Jan 10th when all nonguaranteed deals go fully guaranteed), then his vet min salary of 1.67m will not be on our books, however he will have given us 80 days of service and that means he will account for 2.5m in taxes (ie a 3.25 tax rate applied towards a total of 768k for 80 days of service).

So let’s assume ownership goes this route and is willing to pay an additional 2.5m in taxes for a nonguaranteed player at the 15th roster spot. Which potential players currently on other teams rosters could we bring in to occupy that last roster spot, knowing that other teams will have to be waiving players to cut their rosters down to a mandated max of 15 before the regular season starts.

Here is a list of teams that have to make player cuts to non exhibit 9/10 (ie training camp/ G-league rights) players before Oct. 19:

-Toronto has to waive 2 players
Partially guaranteed players: Yuta Watanabe, Sam Dekker, Isaac Bonga, Freddie Gillespie

-San Antonio has to waive 2 players
Note: They do not have any non/partially-guaranteed deals on their roster so they would have to either waive minimum deals and eat the cost or trade those minimum deals into another team’s vet min exception to dodge the cost
Minimum contracts: Keita Bates-Diop, Jock Landale

-Golden State has to waive 1 player
Nonguaranteed players: Gary Payton II, Mychal Mulder
Partially guaranteed: Damion Lee
Note: Avery Bradley & Jordan Bell are on Exhibit 10 deals and are interesting names to keep an eye out for in case they get cut. Also the dubs just waived Langston Galloway who was also on a training camp invite deal

-Dallas has to waive 1 player
Exhibit 9 player that should make the roster: Frank Ntilikina
Partially guaranteed: Moses Brown

-New Orleans has to waive 1 player
Nonguaranteed player: Wenyen Gabriel

-OKC has to waive 1 player
Partially guaranteed: Kenrich Williams, Mamadi Diakite

-Memphis has to waive 1 player
Note: they do not have any non/partially-guaranteed deals so will either have to cut a low salary player and eat the cost or dump them via trade to another team

-Charlotte has to waive 1 player
Note: they do not have any non/partially-guaranteed deals so will either have to cut a low salary player and eat the cost or dump them via trade to another team

Finally we do also have an open 2-way slot where we can offer up to 462.5k to a young player that will not inflict a tax hit. Also if we are willing to take a tax hit on a younger development type player, we can wait till Oct 26th (ie 1 week into the regular season) to sign a rookie to a prorated minimum of 890k using the remainder of our mMLE. The advantage in doing so is that we could offer that player up to 3 years in length on a new deal (since vet/rookie min exception deals can only be up to 2 years in length, while mMLE exception deals can be up to 3 years in length).
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:36 am    Post subject:

With Ayayi waived from his 2-way spot, what are the rules pertaining to 2-way players that can potential fill that 2nd spot next to Sekou?

-Players are paid up to half the rookie minimum for that given season (= 462.5k)

-A 2-way player’s salary does not count towards a team’s salary and therefore is tax-exempt

-A 2-way contract can be up to 2yrs in length, making them restricted free agents when those particular deals are up

-Players are eligible to take a 2-way deal if they have 0-3yrs of NBA service

-Can play up to 3yrs total as a 2-way player for the same team

-Cannot be poached by another team with a standard NBA deal if already signed to another team’s 2-way deal

-Can be traded to another team (involving even another inbound 2-way player) but counts as $0 in salary aggregation (ie essentially trading for player’s rights)

-Due to the COVID pandemic, previous rules were lifted/relaxed:
No longer an in-season deadline to sign a 2-way player (used to be Jan 10)
No longer a limitation of games that have to be played per season (used to be 45 games)
No longer are ineligible to play in playoffs, if they are first converted to a standard NBA contract (ie “rest-of-season” deal) before the postseason starts
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:04 am    Post subject:

Final Roster? And how much is it going to cost us?

Sure looks like this is the final move just before the tip to the 2021/22 season. But due to the partial/non guaranteed structure of Reaves/Bradley respectively, we could potentially have 2 roster spots still available by buyoutSZN.

1. Russ 44.2m
2. Bron 41.2m
3. AD 35.4m
4. THT 9.5m
5. Nunn 5m
6. Melo 1.7m
7. Dwight 1.7m
8. Baze 1.7m
9. Ariza 1.7m
10. Monk 1.7m
11. Ellington 1.7m
12. Rondo 1.7m
13. DJ 1.7m
14. Bradley 1.7m (nonguaranteed deal signed w/GS & acquired off waivers)
15. Reaves 925k (partially guaranteed & counts as 1.7m cap hit towards taxes)
Deng corpse 5m
= 156.5m in team salary
= 47.6m in taxes (ie 20.7m over tax line)
= 204.1m in combined team salary + associated luxury taxes
note: salary/taxes are all rounded up to the nearest tenth aka decimal point

This projection is calculated under the assumption that both Reaves (only 100k guaranteed) and Av (nonguaranteed) remain on the roster and are not waived. In both cases, if they were to be waived at any point during the season up until the cut-down date (Jan 10, when all non/partial guaranteed deals convert to fully guaranteed), then there will be a tax hit of:
3.25 * (1.7m * (days of service till waived)/174 total days of service during regular season

Day to day pay for Av: 9.6k
Tax hit per day: 31k
Total salary/tax if Av gets waived just before cut-down date: 768k/2.5m
(note:that 768k will not show up on our final cap sheet for the year due to the nonguaranteed structure of his contract…in addition the league also offers a prorated amount of 900k for the days Av remains on a NBA roster as a vet min player)

There are 80 days of potential service a non/partial guaranteed deal can accumulate before the cut-down date (ie hits waivers on Jan 7, to clear the wire after 48hr claim window by Jan 10). In the case of Reaves’ partially guaranteed deal, if he gets waived before the cut-down date, there will be a similar day to day tax hit as Av, with an additional 100k paid to him & that amount appearing as a dead cap hit on our cap sheet this year.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:15 pm    Post subject:

Okay I’ve seen enough and I’m itching to get twitchy with my trigger finger…when is the earliest we can pull on shooting our shot at a trade?

First things first, we haven’t even seen how our entire roster looks healthy yet. But discussion to get better never rests so let’s crank up those trade machines.

Based on when the deadline fell pre-COVID (ie 10 days before All-star, which falls on Feb. 20), it safe to assume February 10, 2022 will be this season’s trade deadline.

Seeing how we have a roster where 3 players are nearly untouchable & 10 other players are minimum contracts (ranging @ 925k - 2.64m) that could be taken in by another team’s veteran minimum exception without the need to send outgoing salary back to LA, that only leaves 2 contracts worth considering towards making a potential midseason trade: THT @ 9.5m & Nunn @ 5m.

Due to the base year compensation (BYC) status of THT towards his new deal, dude cannot be aggregated with or sent out alone in any trade till January 15, 2022 at the earliest. Nunn, like all our other minimum contracts (counting as only 1.67m in aggregation towards a trade) except for Reaves (counting as 925k in aggregation) can be traded on December 15t, 2021 at the earliest. So we will have a period of time to really observe if those dudes fit within our title aspirations this season.

The following list of players are potential targets that would be considered legal based on the aggregated 14.5m salaries of THT/Nunn (ie 2for1 trade):

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Eric Gordon
Eric Bledsoe
Myles Turner
Bogdan Bogdanovic
Terry Rozier
Ricky Rubio
Caris LeVert
Jonathan Isaac
Joe Harris
Spencer Dinwiddie
Evan Fournier
Steven Adams
Markelle Fultz
Aaron Gordon
OG Anunoby
Gary Trent Jr.
Davis Bertans
Lauri Markkanen
Marcus Morris Sr.
Will Barton
Duncan Robinson
Norman Powell
Dejounte Murray
Derrick White
Malik Beasley
Marcus Smart
Patrick Beverley
Thaddeus Young
Jonas Valanciunas
Doug McDermott
Christian Wood
Derrick Rose
Luke Kennard
Brook Lopez
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Joe Ingles
Kyle Kuzma
Taurean Prince
Robert Covington
T.J. Warren
Deandre Ayton
Terrence Ross
Jordan Clarkson
Dillon Brooks
Kelly Olynyk
Jusuf Nurkic
Kelly Oubre Jr.
Josh Hart


The following list of players are potential targets that would be considered legal based on the 9.5m salary of THT alone (ie 1for1 trade):

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Josh Richardson
Marvin Bagley III
Dwight Powell
Devonte' Graham
Zion Williamson
Larry Nance Jr.
Jeremy Lamb
Reggie Jackson
Richaun Holmes
Anthony Edwards
Luka Doncic
Cade Cunningham
Danny Green
Tomas Satoransky
Kyle Anderson
Derrick Favors
Jae Crowder
Serge Ibaka
Tristan Thompson
Derrick Jones Jr.
Montrezl Harrell
Ja Morant
Alec Burks
Reggie Bullock
Mason Plumlee
Jaren Jackson Jr.
James Wiseman
Jalen Green
Maxi Kleber
Monte Morris
De'Anthony Melton
Nerlens Noel
Royce O'Neale
Jakob Poeltl
Kemba Walker
Thomas Bryant
R.J. Barrett
Alex Caruso
Delon Wright
Dario Saric
Tyus Jones
Trae Young
Daniel Theis
LaMelo Ball
Seth Curry
JaMychal Green
Cedi Osman
Evan Mobley
De'Andre Hunter
Mohamed Bamba
Ivica Zubac
T.J. McConnell


Note: the names presented above are solely salary reliant and do not consider the other elements that are necessary in making a legal trade (ie potential All-NBA namer, base salary that does not reflect incentives, roster spots and/or exceptions necessary to facilitate a potential 2 for 1 trade involving the aggregation of THT/Nunn, etc).

Potential unprotected/nonconditional draft assets that are allowed to be involved in a potential trade proposal this season…

- 1st rounders: 2027, 2028, 2029; 2026 (only on the condition that if our 2024 1st does convey to the Pels and they choose not to defer it to a 2025 pick).
Note: if we get involved in a trade with the Pels, it’s possible we can rearrange/amend some of the previous conditions that have been placed on the picks/swaps we involved in the AD trade

-2nd rounders: 2 in 2023 (our own & Bulls), 2024 (lowest among Wiz & Griz), 2025 (our own), 2027 (our own), 2 in 2028 (our own & Wiz), 2029 (our own)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:19 pm    Post subject:

Screw asset management, I want Russ under another team’s management and would rather have the cap space he & his deal leave behind. How much cap space would we have?


The salary cap next year is cut projected to be 119m and still has the potential to go up (via COVID correction / cap smoothing via a projected 75B TV deal). So a lot could change from now till next summer, but on a 119m salary cap, our cap sheet looks like this:

Bron 44.5m
AD 38m
THT 10.3m
Nunn 5.3 (player option)
Reaves 1.6m (team option)
No Deng cap hit (yay!)

Assuming Nunn opts out looking to add to his bag and pairing that with a Russ opt out gives a team salary of 94.4m with 4 players on the roster. Incomplete roster charges are projected to be 953k per so at 8, we are looking at about a 7.6m cap hit taking team salary to 102m. So with a salary cap of 119m, we would have roughly 17m in cap space and in addition we would also have a projected 5.2m as the room exception since we would be considered a cap having team. You can offer up to 2yrs with 5% annual escalators towards one free agent or split between two, using the room exception. So total potential cap space would be roughly 22m.

What if he opts into his 47.1m player option, then what could our options be?

Stretch waiving him would give us no benefit in potential cap space and would only benefit ownership in minimizing a luxury tax hit on a projected 145m tax line. Plus, after finally removing Deng’s dead money off our sheet, why would we add another cap corpse with Russ’s stretched deal.

As for trading him, his deal could bring back as much as 59m in salary (ie any of the max players along with an additional 15m-20m salaried player). Basically any team that is looking for a massive salary dump.

Also extension options (and in that same vein, S&t options) were described in the last post of page 2 of this thread. Please refer to those details there thx.

What if we try to get ahead of this and just trade him this season…when can we trade him and what kind of package could we potentially bring back?


All-star is February 20, 2022 and traditionally (ie precovid climate) the trade deadline is 10 days before that weekend’s events so February 10th is the latest we can trade Russ to swap out personnel fir a better fitting playoff roster.

We can trade Russ right now if we wanted to. His salary can be aggregated to other players/contracts as of late Sept, but Nunn and all the minimum guys can’t be aggregated with Russ till Dec 15th. THT can’t be involved in any trade till January 15th (due to BYC).

So Russ sent out in a deal by himself can bring in as little as 35.3m in salary or as much as 55.4m in salary. Below are players that fall within that salaried window this year on a 1for1 scenario:

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Stephen Curry
John Wall
James Harden
Kevin Durant
Damian Lillard
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Paul George
Kawhi Leonard
Klay Thompson
Jimmy Butler
Tobias Harris
Khris Middleton
Rudy Gobert
Kyrie Irving
Bradley Beal (via activated 15% trade kicker only)
Ben Simmons (via activated 15% trade kicker only)


(Note: names provided above are based on legal trades using those particular salaried deals and are not based on practicality…obviously haha…also FYI a 1for1 deal of Russ for Ben or Beal for example is not a legal trade w/o their trade kicker triggered; Philly/Washington would have to add more outbound salary otherwise for a legal trade)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:58 am    Post subject:

TradeSZN Primer

Rondo trade: Lakers shed roughly 7m in salary/associated taxes (please see below for detailed breakdown), lost certain player rights that don’t mean a damn thing in the grand scope of things, lost 1.1m of the allotted 5.7m trade purse per season (fyi: left with roughly 4.4m in cash to trade away after using 1.1m in the Rondo trade and 250k in the Gasol trade) & gained a 1.7m TPE that CANNOT be aggregated with another player’s salary and/or to Marc Gasol’s 2.7m TPE. Just like Gasol’s TPE (which can bring in a 2.8m salaried player), it can bring in a player that is as much as the TPE amount + 100k aka 1.8m.

1. Russ 44.2m
2. Bron 41.2m
3. AD 35.4m
4. THT 9.5m
5. Nunn 5m
6. Melo 1.7m
7. Dwight 1.7m
8. Baze 1.7m
9. Ariza 1.7m
10. Monk 1.7m
11. Ellington 1.7m
12. DJ 1.7m
13. Bradley 1.7m (nonguaranteed deal signed w/GS & acquired off waivers)
14. Reaves 925k (partially guaranteed & counts as 1.7m cap hit towards taxes)
Deng corpse 5m
= 154.8m in team salary
= 41.8m in taxes (ie 19m over tax line)
= 196.6m in combined team salary + associated luxury taxes
note: salary/taxes are all rounded up to the nearest tenth aka decimal point and do not include suspensions of players leading to forfeited salary (ie Bron suspension) and/or hardship 10-day contracts signed this season (Stanley, IT, JJ, Collison, etc).

As of Dec 15th, every player except for THT can be traded either individually or aggregated within a larger deal right the F now

Bron/AD: have 15% trade kickers that can make their outgoing salary values up to 47.4m/40.7m respectively

COVID hardship deals: As it pertains to Stanley Johnson and to the lesser extent with IT, JJ & Collison, these are new exceptions to the rule of how typical 10-day contracts work. Typically, you are only allowed to sign a player to 2 10-day contracts max per year. But with the COVID exception, you can sign a player to a 10-day hardship deal for every rostered player that enters COVID protocols. Those COVID hardship exceptions do not count towards the max 2x you can sign a particular player per season on a 10-day deal. Also after reaching the max of signing 10-day deals twice, that player can only be retained on the roster via signing a “rest-of-season” deal. More details on the COVID exception rules per Shams below.

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Shams: Sources: The NBA will allow teams to sign one replacement player for each of its players who are under contract and tests positive for COVID-19 -- effective immediately through Jan. 19.

NBA teams will now be required to sign one replacement player when they have two positive tests on the roster. For three positive tests, two replacement signings are required. For four positive results or more, three hardship signings required.

Another key note in NBA's roster rule changes for flexibility amid pandemic:

Two-way players -- who previously had 50-game max -- now have no limit on the number of games they can appear in, sources said.


Key dates:
Jan 5th - regular (non hardship) 10-day contracts can be signed (up to 2x per player)
Jan 7th - nonguaranteed deals of Reaves/Bradley become fully guaranteed
Jan 15th - THT can be either traded individually or aggregated into a larger deal
Feb 10th - 2021/22 trade deadline

Btw, Happy New Year and apologies for being MIA during the holidays. Please don’t hesitate to hit me up or ask any other site capheads in this thread with any questions/inquiries.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:54 am    Post subject:

vasashi17+ wrote:
TradeSZN Primer

Rondo trade: Lakers shed roughly 7m in salary/associated taxes (please see below for detailed breakdown), lost certain player rights that don’t mean a damn thing in the grand scope of things, lost 1.1m of the allotted 5.7m trade purse per season (fyi: left with roughly 4.4m in cash to trade away after using 1.1m in the Rondo trade and 250k in the Gasol trade) & gained a 1.7m TPE that CANNOT be aggregated with another player’s salary and/or to Marc Gasol’s 2.7m TPE. Just like Gasol’s TPE (which can bring in a 2.8m salaried player), it can bring in a player that is as much as the TPE amount + 100k aka 1.8m.

1. Russ 44.2m
2. Bron 41.2m
3. AD 35.4m
4. THT 9.5m
5. Nunn 5m
6. Melo 1.7m
7. Dwight 1.7m
8. Baze 1.7m
9. Ariza 1.7m
10. Monk 1.7m
11. Ellington 1.7m
12. DJ 1.7m
13. Bradley 1.7m (nonguaranteed deal signed w/GS & acquired off waivers)
14. Reaves 925k (partially guaranteed & counts as 1.7m cap hit towards taxes)
Deng corpse 5m
= 154.8m in team salary
= 41.8m in taxes (ie 19m over tax line)
= 196.6m in combined team salary + associated luxury taxes
note: salary/taxes are all rounded up to the nearest tenth aka decimal point and do not include suspensions of players leading to forfeited salary (ie Bron suspension) and/or hardship 10-day contracts signed this season (Stanley, IT, JJ, Collison, etc).

As of Dec 15th, every player except for THT can be traded either individually or aggregated within a larger deal right the F now

Bron/AD: have 15% trade kickers that can make their outgoing salary values up to 47.4m/40.7m respectively

COVID hardship deals: As it pertains to Stanley Johnson and to the lesser extent with IT, JJ & Collison, these are new exceptions to the rule of how typical 10-day contracts work. Typically, you are only allowed to sign a player to 2 10-day contracts max per year. But with the COVID exception, you can sign a player to a 10-day hardship deal for every rostered player that enters COVID protocols. Those COVID hardship exceptions do not count towards the max 2x you can sign a particular player per season on a 10-day deal. Also after reaching the max of signing 10-day deals twice, that player can only be retained on the roster via signing a “rest-of-season” deal. More details on the COVID exception rules per Shams below.

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Shams: Sources: The NBA will allow teams to sign one replacement player for each of its players who are under contract and tests positive for COVID-19 -- effective immediately through Jan. 19.

NBA teams will now be required to sign one replacement player when they have two positive tests on the roster. For three positive tests, two replacement signings are required. For four positive results or more, three hardship signings required.

Another key note in NBA's roster rule changes for flexibility amid pandemic:

Two-way players -- who previously had 50-game max -- now have no limit on the number of games they can appear in, sources said.


Key dates:
Jan 5th - regular (non hardship) 10-day contracts can be signed (up to 2x per player)
Jan 7th - nonguaranteed deals of Reaves/Bradley become fully guaranteed
Jan 15th - THT can be either traded individually or aggregated into a larger deal
Feb 10th - 2021/22 trade deadline

Btw, Happy New Year and apologies for being MIA during the holidays. Please don’t hesitate to hit me up or ask any other site capheads in this thread with any questions/inquiries.


So we simply paid the Knicks $1.1 million to waive Valentine for us and effectively save us $4m? There's another tool ($$$) that we're giving away to save money. Lame.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:59 am    Post subject:

^ I too feel it is lame to operate as a team trying to limit our tax hit, being that we are in a tithe window and should be willing to spend in order to solidify our title chances.

But there is no other way to look at the Rondo trade other than us trying to limit our tax hit.

For example, if we needed the roster spot, all we needed to do was waive Rondo and eat his deal as a dead cap hit.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:19 pm    Post subject:

OKC has cap space but are operating as an over the cap team for certain exceptions. Regarding trades, do they have cap space to absorb a contract or no because of operating over the cap?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:37 pm    Post subject:

^@VLF: OKC will operate as an over the cap team if it benefits them more to do so at the trade deadline. If it doesn’t, where they need potential cap space rather than their current TPEs to absorb contracts into, then they will renounce those TPEs and operate as a cap having team as team salary hits the cap floor of 101.2m (90% of the salary cap).

Presently OKC has 78.5m in team salary when you count their current contracts as well as their dead cap (ie roughly 32m with the corpses of Kemba, Deck, Diakite, Singler, Oni, Patterson, Schofield).

That team salary goes up to right about 101m if you include the Ariza (12.8m) & GHill (9.6m) TPEs. Then if you include the cap holds of their unsigned free agents (Burton, Cole, Collison, Felton, etc), they easily surpass the salary cap floor. Note: you cannot combine and/or aggregate TPEs together or with any other player contracts in a trade.

Let’s say a trade comes around during the trade deadline that does not allow them to absorb salary within their respective TPEs, then they can renounce those TPEs along with their unsigned FA cap holds and operate as a cap having team that has roughly 34m in cap space.

Remember a legal trade is where you can absorb a player’s deal into your cap space as long as team salary does not end up more than 100k over the salary cap (ie 112.5m in team salary) at the conclusion of the trade.

So for example, if they tried to absorb Russ’s 44.2m onto their books with the potential 34m they have in cap space (as a cap having team after they renounce their TPEs/capholds), all they would have to do is send out roughly 10.2m in salary. So under this hypothetical, Favors (9.7m) & Krejci (925k rookie min) is enough to trade for Russ’s entire deal.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:37 pm    Post subject:

Thanks man
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:03 am    Post subject:

^You’re welcome bro!

ESPN TradeSZN Primer

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/33034686/2022-nba-trade-deadline-watch-potential-deals-all-30-teams

Here is the Laker section of that writeup:

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Bobby Marks:

Los Angeles Lakers


What to watch: Talen Horton-Tucker, Kendrick Nunn, DeAndre Jordan, the 2027 first-round pick.

The Russell Westbrook trade in the offseason proved that as long as LeBron James is on the roster, the Lakers will always be a win-now team.

The downside, however, is that the Lakers have backed themselves into a corner on how this team can improve.

If you remove James (untouchable), Anthony Davis (there have been no discussions about moving him) and Westbrook (there is no realistic deal for him that would upgrade the roster) off the trade table, that leaves the Lakers with two assets other teams might want in a trade: Horton-Tucker and their 2027 first-round pick. Because of his $5 million salary, Nunn could be added to the group, but the guard has not stepped on the court this season and has a player option for 2022-23.

Horton-Tucker and Nunn combine to earn $14.5 million, which means the maximum that the Lakers can receive in a trade for the duo is $18.2 million, which is not enough for a player like the Pistons' Jerami Grant unless a player on a minimum contract is included.

Knowing that a 42-year-old James will likely not be on the roster in 2026-27 (and Davis can become a free agent before then as well), the big question is if the front office would entertain moving a 2027 first-round pick, especially since it'd likely have to keep the pick unprotected to bring anything of value back. Since James entered the league in 2003, his teams (Cleveland, Miami and the Lakers) have traded 15 first-round picks in separate deals.

The Lakers created a roster spot with the Rajon Rondo trade and can explore opening up another one if a team is willing to take back DeAndre Jordan. Waiving Jordan is less desirable because of the luxury tax impact. The Lakers can attach cash (they have up to $5.5 million available) or a second-round pick to entice a team to take on Jordan's salary.

Front-office deadline history: In his third year of running the Lakers' front office, Rob Pelinka has not made a trade during the regular season.

Trade we would like to see: Sorry, Lakers fans, it is a minor one. Jordan and $1 million to Orlando for the draft rights of Janis Timma.

Restrictions/notes

The Lakers are $18.6 million over the tax and have a projected penalty of $40.5 million.

The Lakers sent a combined $1.35 million to Memphis and New York in two separate trades. They now have $4.4 million to send out in a trade.

James and Davis each have a 15% trade bonus. The bonus is voided because it would exceed the maximum salary allowed.

The Lakers owe New Orleans or Memphis a first-round pick in 2022. The Pelicans get it if it falls in the top 10; otherwise, it goes to the Grizzlies. In addition, the Pelicans have the right to swap first-round picks in 2023. They also have the Lakers' first-round pick in 2024 and have the right to defer that pick to 2025. The earliest that the Lakers can trade a first is two years after the pick in 2024 or 2025 is conveyed.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:50 pm    Post subject:

vasashi17+ wrote:
Screw asset management, I want Russ under another team’s management and would rather have the cap space he & his deal leave behind. How much cap space would we have?


The salary cap next year is cut projected to be 119m and still has the potential to go up (via COVID correction / cap smoothing via a projected 75B TV deal). So a lot could change from now till next summer, but on a 119m salary cap, our cap sheet looks like this:

Bron 44.5m
AD 38m
THT 10.3m
Nunn 5.3 (player option)
Reaves 1.6m (team option)
No Deng cap hit (yay!)

Assuming Nunn opts out looking to add to his bag and pairing that with a Russ opt out gives a team salary of 94.4m with 4 players on the roster. Incomplete roster charges are projected to be 953k per so at 8, we are looking at about a 7.6m cap hit taking team salary to 102m. So with a salary cap of 119m, we would have roughly 17m in cap space and in addition we would also have a projected 5.2m as the room exception since we would be considered a cap having team. You can offer up to 2yrs with 5% annual escalators towards one free agent or split between two, using the room exception. So total potential cap space would be roughly 22m.

What if he opts into his 47.1m player option, then what could our options be?

Stretch waiving him would give us no benefit in potential cap space and would only benefit ownership in minimizing a luxury tax hit on a projected 145m tax line. Plus, after finally removing Deng’s dead money off our sheet, why would we add another cap corpse with Russ’s stretched deal.

As for trading him, his deal could bring back as much as 59m in salary (ie any of the max players along with an additional 15m-20m salaried player). Basically any team that is looking for a massive salary dump.

Also extension options (and in that same vein, S&t options) were described in the last post of page 2 of this thread. Please refer to those details there thx.

What if we try to get ahead of this and just trade him this season…when can we trade him and what kind of package could we potentially bring back?


All-star is February 20, 2022 and traditionally (ie precovid climate) the trade deadline is 10 days before that weekend’s events so February 10th is the latest we can trade Russ to swap out personnel fir a better fitting playoff roster.

We can trade Russ right now if we wanted to. His salary can be aggregated to other players/contracts as of late Sept, but Nunn and all the minimum guys can’t be aggregated with Russ till Dec 15th. THT can’t be involved in any trade till January 15th (due to BYC).

So Russ sent out in a deal by himself can bring in as little as 35.3m in salary or as much as 55.4m in salary. Below are players that fall within that salaried window this year on a 1for1 scenario:

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Stephen Curry
John Wall
James Harden
Kevin Durant
Damian Lillard
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Paul George
Kawhi Leonard
Klay Thompson
Jimmy Butler
Tobias Harris
Khris Middleton
Rudy Gobert
Kyrie Irving
Bradley Beal (via activated 15% trade kicker only)
Ben Simmons (via activated 15% trade kicker only)


(Note: names provided above are based on legal trades using those particular salaried deals and are not based on practicality…obviously haha…also FYI a 1for1 deal of Russ for Ben or Beal for example is not a legal trade w/o their trade kicker triggered; Philly/Washington would have to add more outbound salary otherwise for a legal trade)


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Incomplete roster charges are projected to be 953k per so at 8, we are looking at about a 7.6m cap hit taking team salary to 102m


For the 2020-21 season, the salary cap was $109.14 million and the rookie minimum was $898,310.

For the 2021-22 season, the salary cap is $112.4 million and the rookie minimum is $925,258

If the 2022-23 Season is going to have a salary cap of $119 million, would the rookie minimum increase by the same percentage as the salary cap increases?

An increase of the salary cap from $112.4 million to $119 million is roughly a change of 5.87%.

An increase in the rookie minimum from $925,258 to $953,000 is less than a 5.87% change.

22. What is the minimum salary a player can receive?

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The minimum salary scale amounts for the 2017-18 season were negotiated into the agreement. For each subsequent season the minimum salary scale amounts are determined by applying the percentage change in the salary cap to the previous minimum salary scale amounts. For example, if the salary cap increases by 4% from 2017-18 to 2018-19, then all minimum salary scale amounts also will increase by 4% from 2017-18 to 2018-19. The minimum salary scales for previous seasons can be found HERE.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:43 pm    Post subject:

^@Bard: You are absolutely correct and thanks for catching that error. My apologies…I must have mistakenly used the older 116m salary cap projection. So to correct that error and in case others don’t have a calculator lying around, the current projections are below:

Projected 2022/23 Season figures:
Salary cap: 119m
Luxury tax threshold: 144.6m
Cap apron (aka hard cap): 151.4m
Incomplete roster charge/rookie minimum (till 12 spots): 980k cap hit
1 season vet min: 1.58m
2+ seasoned vet min: 1.77m cap hit (league incentivizes the difference)
BAE: 3.92m
Room exception: 5.3m
mMLE (tax payer exception): 6.24m
fMLE (non-tax payer exception): 10.06m

Note: these figures are floor projections and can still possibly increase, as we’ve recently observed with the 116m cap projection increasing to the current (yet fluid) 119m projection.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:31 am    Post subject:

Stan the (tax) man finally filling out the roster? (ie stan-ding pat thru tradeSZN/buyoutSZN)

1. Russ 44.2m
2. Bron 41.2m
3. AD 35.4m
4. THT 9.5m
5. Nunn 5m
6. Melo 1.7m
7. Dwight 1.7m
8. Baze 1.7m
9. Ariza 1.7m
10. Monk 1.7m
11. Ellington 1.7m
12. DJ 1.7m
13. Bradley 1.7m (as of Jan 10th, his nonguaranteed deal is fully guaranteed)
14. Reaves 925k (as of Jan 10th, his nonguaranteed deal is fully guaranteed and counts as a 1.7m cap hit towards luxury tax math)
15. S. Johnson 890k (prorated amount of 2.08m vet min (for 6 yr seasoned vet) when signed on Jan 27th w/74 days remaining in a 174 day NBA calendar)
Deng corpse 5m
= 155.7m in team salary
= 42.1m in taxes (ie 19.1m over tax line)
= 197.8m in combined team salary + associated luxury taxes

It would have been a good sign for us if the Lakers took their time in locking Stan up. At least to me, that would indicate, roster spot flexibility may be necessary to get an uneven trade done (ie 2for1, etc). Seems like trade talks are going nowhere, which is why we’ll sign Stan to a rest-of season deal ASAP, instead of having him wait in a holding pattern for a potential impending trade to occur.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:53 am    Post subject:

Bobby Marks/ESPN+ Draft Capital/2022 offseason primer

FYI: this info has already been presented in earlier posts, but here it is again in a more condensed package:

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-A lack of draft assets

The trade to acquire Davis in 2019 accomplished the one goal that the Lakers set out to achieve: win an NBA championship. Now, almost two years later, the Lakers are feeling the negative long-term effects of that trade.

The original deal called for the Lakers to send three first-round picks to the New Orleans Pelicans, one in 2020, one in 2022 and one in either 2024 or 2025. Because the Stepien Rule prevents teams from trading future first-round picks in back-to-back years, the Lakers cannot trade their 2023 pick (one the Pelicans also have swap rights on anyway). Also, because the Pelicans have the right to choose whether they get the Lakers' pick in 2024 or 2025, L.A. is prevented from trading its 2026 pick.

What the Lakers do have to offer is either a 2027 or 2028 first-round pick, but not both. Teams aren't allowed to trade picks further than seven years in the future, so the Lakers could add protections to either pick, but cannot let it roll over to 2029.

For example, the Lakers could trade a future first-round pick, but put top-three protection on it in 2027 and 2028. The acquiring team would run the risk of receiving two second-round picks in 2028 if the pick does not convey in either season.

The Lakers could also add language clarifying that the acquiring team would receive its first-rounder two years after the conditions to New Orleans are met. For example, if the Pelicans elect to keep the 2024 first and not defer to 2025, the acquiring team would then receive a 2026 first.

The Lakers are clearly a win-now team, but are they willing to trade a first-round pick for 2027 or 2028, when James will likely be retired and Davis could be on a different team?

One thing to keep in mind is that since James entered the league in 2003, the teams he has played on (Cleveland, Miami and the Lakers) have traded away 15 first-round picks.

Although the Lakers are limited in what they can send as it relates to the first round, they do have seven future second-round picks to work with at this trade deadline: 2023 (their own and Chicago), 2024 (the less favorable of Washington and Memphis), 2025 (their own), 2027 (their own) and 2028 (their own and Washington).

-Looking ahead to the offseason

If the Lakers' roster doesn't change much in February, it is almost certain to change this summer. Only seven current Lakers -- James, Davis, Westbrook, Horton-Tucker, Nunn, Stanley Johnson and Austin Reaves -- are under contract for 2022-23.

The bad news is that those players are slated to make a combined $149 million, putting the Lakers over the luxury tax line even before filling out the final eight spots on the roster.

The Lakers will have the $6.2 million taxpayer midlevel exception available. Outside of that, they'll be looking to add players on the veteran's minimum for the second consecutive offseason.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/33186119/nba-trade-deadline-2022-why-los-angeles-lakers-roster-shakeup-not-coming


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:06 pm    Post subject:

Tentative 2022/23 offseason projections

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Sources: The NBA has informed teams of projected salary cap and tax level in 2022-23 — $121M and $147M, both are $2M higher than previous estimates.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1489702744772558848


New projections have it where the cap will go up by roughly 7.65% and it can still max out at an annual 10% increase (fyi: see those possible projections above in the 1st post of this page).

Current projections
Salary cap: 121m
Luxury tax threshold: 147m
Cap apron (aka hard cap): 153.9m
Incomplete roster charge/rookie minimum (till 12 spots): 996k cap hit
1 season vet min: 1.61m
2+ seasoned vet min: 1.8m cap hit (league incentivizes the difference)
BAE: 3.98m
Room exception: 5.38m
mMLE (tax payer exception): 6.34m
fMLE (non-tax payer exception): 10.23m

Note: these figures are floor projections and can still possibly increase, as we’ve recently observed with the 119m cap projection increasing to the current (yet fluid) 121m projection as seen from the posts above in this thread.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:34 am    Post subject:

How does the Stepien Rule impact our current/future 1st round picks in trade discussions now?

2 Madates to Stepien Rule:
-a team cannot be without a 1st round pick in consecutive years; said differently, a team cannot trade future 1st round picks in consecutive years if they are left without a 1st of their own in consecutive years
So for example: a team trading their own 2022 & 2023 1st round picks is allowed if they already have another team’s 2022 and/or 2023 1st within their treasure trove

-a team can only trade 1st round picks a maximum of 7 years out from their current disposition
So for example: a team can currently trade away their 2028 1st round pick at the Feb. 10th trade deadline, but cannot trade their 2029 1st round pick till the 2022 offseason

Our 2022 1st goes to either Memphis or Nawlins
Our 2023 1st pick swap with Nawlins (we get lower pick)
Our 2024 1st goes to Nawlins (but can be deferred to 2025 1st)
Our 2025 1st see aforementioned deferment option
Our 2026 1st can’t be traded due to Nawlin’s 2025 deferment option and as the Stepien rule indicates, 2 consecutive future 1st round picks cannot be traded

The deferment option Nawlins extracted out of us limits us from trading any of our own future 1sts till 2027 (since deferment of our 2024 1st to our 2025 1st means we cannot trade our 2026 1st in any current trades).

The only way we can add our 2026 1st in any talks is by having language in the trade that specifies if Nawlins keeps our 2024 1st, our 2026 1st will be traded with our potential trade partner, otherwise if Nawlins defers the pick to our 2025 1st, our 2027 1st gets moved instead to our trade partner.

There can also be language written where if Nawlins keeps our 2024 1st, then we can include swap rights to our 2025 1st with any potential trade partner we have current trade discussions with.

So here are our draft capital configurations now & into the summer:

2025 pick swap if Nawlins does not defer from our 2024 1st
2026 1st if Nawlins does not defer from our 2024 1st
2027 1st or pick swap if 2028 1st is being traded
2028 1st or pick swap if 2027 1st is being traded
2029 1st can’t be involved in trade talks till the offseason

Note to self: use NO instead of Nawlins if posting about our draft capital again 😑
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:42 pm    Post subject:

Now that the trade deadline has passed, can we do anything to address our personnel before the offseason?

So we have 2 TPEs from the Gasol & Rondo trades that can take in salary in the amounts of 2.7m (or less) and 1.7m (or less) respectively. These TPEs do not prorate down over the season and can be used in claiming players that have been waived and remain on the wire (up to 48 hours).

However once they clear the waiver wire to become unrestricted free agents, these waived players cannot be claimed using our TPEs (ie TPEs cannot be used to sign FAs). In that case, we are only limited to using the veteran minimum exceptions. However unlike the TPEs, they do prorate downwards as the season progresses. So for example if we were to sign a FA today using a veteran exception, then the cap hit would be 575k (there are 60 days remaining from today to the end of the season, April 10, 2022, in a 174 day season that commenced on Oct. 19, 2021).

Unlike the season where we picked up Kieff with our Boogie disabled player exception (valued at 1.75m, that did not prorate), we will only be limited to our TPEs (to use towards waiver wire claims) and the prorated vet min exceptions towards UFAs.

March 1st is the deadline for a player to be waived by and still be eligible to make a team’s playoff roster. Hypothetically said player can sign on the last day of the season (April 10th) and still be on the playoff roster as long as they were waived by March 1st.

Also the 15 man roster max still applies, so a vacant roster spot must be present first before we can take in a player either of the wire or from the available FA pool.

Listed below are players that have been waived from the non-guaranteed cut-down date of Jan 7th (to clear waivers) to today’s trade deadline date. I hope to keep this list updated through March 1st (the playoff roster eligibility deadline). I hope other members can help me compile the list and fill in babes that I may have not listed or incorrectly presented below. Thx!

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DeAndre' Bembry, SF
Waived by Brooklyn (BKN)

Jahmi'us Ramsey, SG
Waived by Sacramento (SAC)

Robert Woodard II, SG
Waived by Sacramento (SAC)

Drew Eubanks, PF
Waived by Toronto (TOR)

P.J. Dozier, PG
Waived by Orlando (ORL)

Enes Freedom, C
Waived by Houston (HOU)

Moses Brown, C
Waived by Dallas (DAL)

Michael Carter-Williams, PG
Waived by Orlando (ORL)

E'Twaun Moore, SG
Waived by Orlando (ORL)

Abdel Nader, SF
Waived by Phoenix (PHX)

Armoni Brooks, SG
Waived by Houston (HOU)

D.J. Augustin, PG
Waived by Houston (HOU)

Cody Zeller, C
Waived by Portland (POR)

Solomon Hill, SF
Waived by New York (NYK)

Marcus Garrett, PG
Waived by Miami (MIA)

Devon Dotson, PG
Waived by Chicago (CHI)

Willie Cauley-Stein, C
Waived by Dallas (DAL)

Ja'Vonte Smart, G
Waived by Milwaukee (MIL)

Malik Fitts, PF
Waived by Utah (UTH)

Jay Huff, C
Waived by Los Angeles (LAL)

Aaron Henry, SF
Waived by Philadelphia (PHI)

Jaquori McLaughlin, PG
Waived by Dallas (DAL)

Jared Harper, PG
Waived by New Orleans (NOP)

Petr Cornelie, PF
Waived by Denver (DEN)

Tacko Fall, C
Waived by Cleveland (CLE)

Miye Oni, SG
Waived by Oklahoma City (OKC)

Jabari Parker, PF
Waived by Boston (BOS)

Gary Clark, PF
Waived by New Orleans (NOP)


Here is a list of potential buyout candidates:

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-buyout-season-who-are-the-candidates/

Notes: trades can be conducted amongst teams once the regular season concludes once those teams are eliminated (or do not participate) in postseason play.

Also TPEs cannot be aggregated together to bring in a larger salaried player off the waiver wire.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:17 am    Post subject:

couple of questions Vasashi:
1. how much extra tax is Jeanie looking at if we cut 2 players and sign 2 in the buyout market. since it is prorated. i am guessing 5 mil?
2. in this summer, we will be able to trade our 2026 and 2028 FRPs after 2022 convert, right?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:22 pm    Post subject:

^@mad:

1. The 2 players we waive would be dead cap hits of 1.67m each and as of right now we are roughly 19.5m above the tax line.

Let’s assume we sign a player today to a rest-of-season deal that is a cap hit of the prorated amount of the vet min (ie 1.67m) then it would be (60/174) * 1.67m = 575k. So each player we sign to a ROS deal will have a max cap hit of 575k if signed today.

Since the tax rate for being 15-19.99m above the tax line is 3.25 & 3.75 for being 20-24.99m above the tax line, then one player will cost us roughly 1.9m in taxes. The next player we sign would cost roughly 2.2m in taxes. So combining both players cap hits (non-incentivized portion covered by the league) along with their associated tax hits would see Jeanie paying a net amount of about 5.25m. So you are correct in your estimation bro.

Also worth mentioning that as it stands, 7 teams are definitively in the tax (ie paying 10m+), so each of the other 23 non-tax paying teams will get a check for roughly 11m each.

2. Since we gave NO a deferment option to our 2024 1st, that means in the case they do choose to pick our 2025 1st instead of our 2024 1st, we cannot trade our 2026 1st in any potential trade this offseason since we would be violating the Stepien rule in trading 2 future consecutive picks without holding one ourselves (ie 2025 & 2026 in this example). Unfortunately, competitive advantage will have it where NO won’t give us a heads on what their decision will be…so we can’t trade our 2026 1st under the assumption they wont defer, cause if they end up deferring , we would be in violation of the Stepien rule.

We can however add language to any trade talks this summer that state we will trade our 2026 & 2028 1sts if NO does NOT defer, otherwise our potential trade partner will receive our 2027 & 2029 1sts instead. Also we will be able to include our 2029 1st in trade talks since the Stepien rule allows teams to trade their future picks up to 7 years.

Lastly we can also get on the phone with Griff and see if we can amend the conditions by eliminating that deferment option. It’s what Miami did at the trade deadline with OKC to open up the possibility of them trading their 2022 or 2023 1sts, which they were unable to do since the conditions on the pick they owed OKC did not allow them to do so.

Hope that all makes sense and answers your questions bud.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:04 pm    Post subject:

Which teams have the resources to compete with us towards our player targets during buyoutSZN?

- Atlanta (1 open roster spot)
•veteran minimum exception aka rest-of-season (ROS) contract roughly worth 575k if signed today
•1.8m TPE
•3.7m BAE
•5.5m remaining from fMLE
note: 2.4m below tax line

- Boston (5)
•vet min ROS
•500k TPE
•1.9m TPE
•2.1m TPE
•5m TPE
•9.7m TPE
•17.1m TPE
note: 2.6m below tax line

- Charlotte (1)
•vet min ROS
•410k remaining from room exception
note: in no real danger of paying a tax this season

- Denver (1)
•vet min ROS
•1.6m TPE
•2.2m TPE
•2.6m DPE
•4.5m remaining from fMLE
note: 1m below tax line

- Detroit (1)
•vet min ROS
note: 6.9 below tax line

- Houston (1)
•vet min ROS
•BAE
•6m remaining from fMLE
note: 9m below tax line

- Miami (2)
•vet min ROS
•1.8m TPE
•BAE
•2.5m remaining from fMLE
note: 2.1 below tax line

- Milwaukee (3)
•vet min ROS
•960k remaining from mMLE
•1.5m TPE
note: we small market, but we ain’t afraid of no tax line; currently paying 10m+ more in taxes than the global market Lakers

- Minnesota (1)
•vet min ROS
•BAE
•mMLE or fMLE
•4.8m TPE
note: 870k below tax line

- New Orleans (1)
•vet min ROS
•1.8m TPE
•1.9m DPE
•BAE
•3.9m TPE
•6.4m TPE
•7.8m remaining from fMLE
note: 5.1m below tax line

- New York (1)
•vet min ROS
•4.9m room exception
note: 16.8m below tax line

- Orlando (1)
•vet min ROS
•2m TPE
•BAE
•4.3m TPE
•4.5m remaining from fMLE
•17.2m TPE
note: 18.8m below tax line

- Philadelphia (1)
•vet min ROS
•1.7m remaining from mMLE
note: already above the tax line

- Toronto (1)
•vet min ROS
•two 1.5m TPEs
•3.2m remaining from fMLE
•BAE
•4.8m TPE
note: 3.8m below tax line

- Utah (1)
•vet min ROS
•568k TPE
•1.5m TPE
•9.8m TPE
note: just filled a roster spot by giving House a ROS deal; already above the tax line

- Washington (1)
•vet min ROS
•2.2m TPE
•BAE
•8m remaining from fMLE
note: 10.9m below tax line

NOTE: all exceptions except TPEs & DPEs prorate downwards during the season; TPEs can only be used on players actively on the waiver wire & cannot be used on free agents (ie players that have cleared the waiver wire); OKC is roughly 21m from hitting the cap floor (has roughly 32m in potential cap space) and can sign free agents outright using that cap space, but would have to clear roster spots to do so.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:24 pm    Post subject:

thanks
one more question, if NO defer the 2024 FRP to 2025, what happens to the swap in 2025 originally in the deal?
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