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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:31 pm    Post subject: 2020 FOOTBALL/SOCCER THREAD

I've decided to mark this momentous occasion when both Liverpool and ManUtd concede 6+ goals on the same day to start this thread. Crazy times call for crazy scorelines...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:10 am    Post subject:

I'm very pleased that for once it wasn't Arsenal getting the battering

The Liverpool one was just plain crazy, cannot explain how it happened
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:35 pm    Post subject:

Moses wrote:
I'm very pleased that for once it wasn't Arsenal getting the battering

The Liverpool one was just plain crazy, cannot explain how it happened


Adrian is the new Karius...

As for us, Maguire's head is still in Mykonos.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:37 pm    Post subject:

Ronnie has Covid

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:47 pm    Post subject:

European Super League anyone?

I guess $6 billion from JP Morgan is hard to turn down.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/uefa-champions-league/story/4364173/man-unitedjuventustottenham-among-team-to-participate-in-super-league
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:23 am    Post subject:

Another money-grabbing ploy. I don't think it'll come to pass, but it's a big two-fingered salute to UEFA.

Hard to disagree with anything Gaz says here: Gary Neville's verdict


Don't quite understand why Tottenham and Arsenal think they deserve to be part of the "Big" six English clubs.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:38 am    Post subject:

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European Super League anyone?

I guess $6 billion from JP Morgan is hard to turn down.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/uefa-champions-league/story/4364173/man-unitedjuventustottenham-among-team-to-participate-in-super-league


This is pathetic. A bunch of mediocre teams with little or no history of European success (such as Arsenal, Tottenham, Man City, Atletico Madrid) trying to force their way just because they have money.

It's a shame that huge teams like Man Utd, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Milan and Inter agreed with this (bleep).

I completely agree with what Gary Neville said.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:59 pm    Post subject:

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Aon't quite understand why Tottenham and Arsenal think they deserve to be part of the "Big" six English clubs.


This I agree with. Rubbish.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:36 pm    Post subject:

It's not about history or past success in European competitions, it's about having a global brand. Arsenal and Tottenham have lots of fans, even outside of England.

The TV money for this new league will be enormous. People will tune in and watch, even those that say they hate the idea. Bayern and PSG will eventually join, too. It's just too much money to say no.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:46 pm    Post subject:

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It's not about history or past success in European competitions, it's about having a global brand. Arsenal and Tottenham have lots of fans, even outside of England.

The TV money for this new league will be enormous. People will tune in and watch, even those that say they hate the idea. Bayern and PSG will eventually join, too. It's just too much money to say no.


I'd agree with you on Arsenal, but Tottenham are perennial losers. That's their charm.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:55 pm    Post subject:

The Chicago Cubs created an entire identity about losing. So it works sometimes.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:40 pm    Post subject:

I prefer to stick with tradition in sports, but it doesn't always work out that way in the modern world.

I hope it works out how you football diehards wish it to.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:00 am    Post subject:

Wilt wrote:
It's not about history or past success in European competitions, it's about having a global brand. Arsenal and Tottenham have lots of fans, even outside of England.

The TV money for this new league will be enormous. People will tune in and watch, even those that say they hate the idea. Bayern and PSG will eventually join, too. It's just too much money to say no.


Obviously it is about money, but it is about European success too. You can't have one without the other. Those teams can't build a global brand if they're not consistently qualifying to the UCL.

See Arsenal, 3 straight years not getting in. And possibly not getting in again this year.
They want to force their presence when they can't do it consistently in the field.

The idea of having 15 clubs always in, regardless of anything else, is pathetic. It goes against everything that I believe is great about football.

Juventus have been eliminated 3 years straight by Ajax, Lyon and Porto GTFO with your global brand bullsh*t. The games are what matter.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:29 am    Post subject:

What you believe is great about football is resulting in a financial catastrophe for big and small clubs.

Juventus and Arsenal are in because the other clubs that are in want them to be in. That's the whole point of a league where the clubs want to organize themselves, as opposed to being organized by UEFA or facing relegation. So yes, global brands matter. There is a reason why Arsenal is in and not Leicester, because no one outside of Leicester cares about Leicester, or Ajax or Lyon or Porto. The latter even won a UCL pretty recently, and no one cares about that team outside of Portugal.

And it's not about creating some egalitarian league where everybody is equally strong. Arsenal might suck every year in the Super League, but the other teams clearly wanted them to be included.

The biggest teams - in terms of global appeal - are losing hundreds of millions of dollars due to the pandemic, and those teams have decided that this is the only way for them to save themselves, as opposed to being stuck with UEFA. And if it comes down to watching Dortmund vs Brugge in the CL or Barcelona vs United in the Super League, you will watch the latter.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:52 am    Post subject:

With that said, the 12 teams are apparently meeting tonight to disband the whole thing.

I guess the backlash was too strong.

Let's see what the next two years bring in terms of the financial situation of these big clubs. If a bunch of them go bankrupt, their fears were real.

Florentino Perez needs to resign now. And I'm a big fan of him.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:38 am    Post subject:

Well that didn't last long!

Just my opinion...and I don't think it will happen, but I hope they make some improvements to the champions league. I think its too watered down. Maybe get rid of the group stage and make it all knock out rounds.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:37 pm    Post subject:

Ed Woodward is gone, ding-dong the witch is dead. Glazers should be next. Thanks uncle Flo!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:40 am    Post subject:

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What you believe is great about football is resulting in a financial catastrophe for big and small clubs.


Then review the whole structure. More rigid financial fair play, salary and transfer cap, etc.
The sport and the competition aren't the ones who must suffer.

Watching Real Madrid x Man City 20 times a year isn't the solution to anything.

I'm just glad that this whole BS didn't survive for more than 24 hours.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:24 am    Post subject:

And you expect UEFA to change that entire structure? The whole point of the Super League was that UEFA wasn't changing anything and making things worse.

It's one thing to be against the SL, it's another to exaggerate that Real Madrid would play Man City 20 times a year.

The reason UEFA was against this wasn't because of how many teams played in it, or even that teams could not be relegated, it's because UEFA would lose control and all these teams would make enormous amounts of money and UEFA would get nothing.

Here's a prediction: something like the Super League will be created eventually and it'll be created by UEFA, and all those idiot Liverpool fans that gathered in front of Anfield will be suddenly for it.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 4:24 pm    Post subject:

Man United - Liverpool match postponed due to protests.
Hopefully this will lead in the right direction for football operations both at club/league levels.
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