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A three! frommmmmm downnnnntownnnnnnnnn
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| C M B wrote: | | A three! frommmmmm downnnnntownnnnnnnnn |
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Surprised and pleased.
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| Now what will the sentence be? |
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Bail revoked. He's going to jail right now. Took the perp walk in handcuffs.
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| A lot more cops need to be put in cuffs. |
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DAMN I'M MISTING
My Daddy Changed The World YEAH!!!
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| Black20Ice wrote: | | Now what will the sentence be? |
He'll be in jail for the rest of his life, and there's a halfway decent chance he gets killed in prison. Not saying I wish for that, just being honest about the situation. The most serious charge carries a max of 45 years, and the second most serious charge carries a max of 25 years, I believe.
EDIT: Actually, maybe the most he can get is 45 years, instead of the sentences all adding up. I'm not sure. Perhaps someone can help with that. |
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Chauvin is about to become somebody's in-house conjugal visit.
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| I'm not a lawyer, I am neither Jacoby nor Meyers, but I think 25 years is the MINIMUM sentence here after being found guilty on all counts. |
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I just hope for her sake that this really is the start of a real change. She's going to be missing her daddy for the rest of her life.
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Black20Ice wrote: | | Now what will the sentence be? |
He'll be in jail for the rest of his life, and there's a halfway decent chance he gets killed in prison. Not saying I wish for that, just being honest about the situation. The most serious charge carries a max of 45 years, and the second most serious charge carries a max of 25 years, I believe.
EDIT: Actually, maybe the most he can get is 45 years, instead of the sentences all adding up. I'm not sure. Perhaps someone can help with that. |
Hopefully, he doesn’t get killed in prison because death is mercy. Let him suffer.
He looked genuinely shocked and confused at the verdict. |
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I would like to know what the minimum sentence is for second-degree unintentional murder. Does anybody know?
| Quote: | | The maximum sentence for second-degree unintentional murder is imprisonment 40 years. |
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| Black20Ice wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | Black20Ice wrote: | | Now what will the sentence be? |
He'll be in jail for the rest of his life, and there's a halfway decent chance he gets killed in prison. Not saying I wish for that, just being honest about the situation. The most serious charge carries a max of 45 years, and the second most serious charge carries a max of 25 years, I believe.
EDIT: Actually, maybe the most he can get is 45 years, instead of the sentences all adding up. I'm not sure. Perhaps someone can help with that. |
Hopefully, he doesn’t get killed in prison because death is mercy. Let him suffer.
He looked genuinely shocked and confused at the verdict. |
Because he has gotten away with (bleep) his whole life. He probably still doesn't think he did anything wrong.
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| DancingBarry wrote: | | Thank goodness. |
This. Thought I was going to have to leave the country for a year if the verdict went the other way.
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| adkindo wrote: | | jodeke wrote: |
I did say that. I misspoke. In retrospect what you say about Cochran is something I believe. IMO the defense is relying on one juror to vote not guilty and get a hung jury. Most of what I've heard them present are hypotheticals.
Relating to Johnnie, I thought that's what he was trying to do, get a hung jury. I think he was as surprised as anyone when the not guilty verdict was read. |
My 2 cents, the Prosecution is blowing this case. Reasonable doubt has already been introduced.....with the Prosecution Witnesses! When the medical examiner claimed the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest and asphyxiation" from the pressure of the knee, then on cross was asked if Floyds heart disease and the large amount of Fentanyl in his system could lead to "cardiopulmonary arrest and asphyxiation", he answered "YES". I think that will be problematic in combination with the autopsy report showing no physical marks on the skin or sub dermal muscle. The jury does not have to believe it is likely that Floyd died from drugs or his poor heart health.....only that it is reasonable. We have not even got to the point where the defense is presenting their side which will very likely include "specialists" that claim it was likely the other factors beyond the actions of Chauvin that killed Floyd.
Unless the Defense blows it, I would guess that it is headed toward a hung jury. I think if the Prosecution stood up and said we agree with the defense, they would likely not get all jurors to agree to "not guilty". There is just too much going on outside the court for me to believe that will happen. Maybe they will agree on "manslaughter", but I think a hung jury is more likely as I doubt everyone will come off of the murder charge. Honestly, I think even the manslaughter charge will be hard to prove if you look at the law and what is required to prove to get a guilty verdict.
Personally, I think the Prosecution should have allowed him to plead guilty to manslaughter and do the max time on that charge. They had to know the uphill battle they would face on the murder charge. I am not sure what trial most of the media are watching, but they have became cheerleaders for the prosecution and misinforming the public that this is some type of slam dunk guilty verdict, and if it does not result in a guilty verdict on murder, the outrage will be 10x because much of the public is being told daily by the media that the prosecution has been killing the defense. |
Yep. Totally blew it! 😂
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| I had a sinking feeling this guy was going to walk, so I’m pleasantly surprised to see some measure of justice being delivered. My heart goes out to Floyd’s family for all they’ve endured, as what transpired was still an extreme lack of humanity. But at the very least they got their day in court and justice didn’t let them down. One can only hope this ruling can help turn the tide to ultimately stop police brutality and mistreatment towards minorities. |
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| 32 wrote: | I would like to know what the minimum sentence is for second-degree unintentional murder. Does anybody know?
| Quote: | | The maximum sentence for second-degree unintentional murder is imprisonment 40 years. |
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| Quote: | Steve Vladeck @steve_vladeck
Because the third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter convictions are “lesser-included offenses” of the second-degree murder conviction, Chauvin will be sentenced on the top count — which, as Sarah notes, has a statutory maximum of 40 years. |
I don't know about the minimum sentence but this says maximum is set at 40 years. Unless there are penalties for any aggravating circumstances?
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Presumptive sentence for someone without criminal history (presumably the case here) is 306 months for murder 2, |
That suggests 25 years minimum and 40 yrs max.
But this is all off Twitter so take it with a grain of salt. Sentencing in about 2 months I think, so we'll know then.
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Black20Ice wrote: | | Now what will the sentence be? |
He'll be in jail for the rest of his life, and there's a halfway decent chance he gets killed in prison. Not saying I wish for that, just being honest about the situation. The most serious charge carries a max of 45 years, and the second most serious charge carries a max of 25 years, I believe.
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He will 100% be dead in prison before he can appeal. |
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Sentencing enhancement: nine-year-old girl witnessed the death of George Floyd at Chauvin's hands
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| BadGuy wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | Black20Ice wrote: | | Now what will the sentence be? |
He'll be in jail for the rest of his life, and there's a halfway decent chance he gets killed in prison. Not saying I wish for that, just being honest about the situation. The most serious charge carries a max of 45 years, and the second most serious charge carries a max of 25 years, I believe.
EDIT: Actually, maybe the most he can get is 45 years, instead of the sentences all adding up. I'm not sure. Perhaps someone can help with that. |
He will 100% be dead in prison before he can appeal. |
In theory, they will absolutely put him in protective custody in prison and away from the general population. However, all it takes is the establishment to allow him to get whacked. Like Epstein. |
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Is this a state or federal case? Isn't it true in state sentences they usually only serve around half of the sentence?
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| Quote: | Harry Litman @harrylitman
Guidelines are in the 12.5 year range before aggravating factors considered. Remember Chauvin waived his right to jury determination of those so that judge will decide |
| Quote: | Rachel Barkow @RachelBarkow
Just so everyone's expectations are clear, MN is a guideline state, so the stat max isn't the key benchmark for his sentence. The guidelines are, and he's looking at 12.5 years under those, w/ a likely increase for aggravators filed by the govt.
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12 and a half years? Better be some aggravating factors.
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