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| Lakers in 5 or 6 games. |
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The line has come down to Lakers - 4 1/2.
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I'd start Howard on Bam. Throw in some McGee. Use all 12. Wear him down. If necessary put AD on him. I hope it won't be necessary. Don't make this a AD vs Bam contest.
Put AC on Dragic. He's a pesky defender. He won't stop Goran, he'll slow him down.
Green may be able to keep Butler from getting to the rim. If he does that will limit his game. He's not a scorer.
Kelly Olynyk and Andre Iguodala are X factors.
Lakers X factors Playoff Rondo and Kuz.
I like the Lakers in 5. Would love a LINK
Four wins from #17. GO LAKERS!!!
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4-1 Last series. Lets go LAKERS!!! 
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I just check my advanced algorithm called "CARUSO"
it says we have a 79.7 percent chance of whooping the Heat's ass!
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Bam isn't a low post banger like Jokic was, so i expect Morris see some PT on Bam. AD usually having tough time against strong based bigs like Tucker and Jokic in the post, Bam isn't that type of player, i can see AD really enjoy the match up with Bam in this series. we need Denny green or KCP to get their track shoes on to chase Robinson through multiple screens reggie miller style.
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LETS GO MY FRIENDS!!!!!!
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The thing that bothers me about this series is the memory of the 2004 Detroit Pistons.
They had no superstars, they had a solid team. We were hands down favorites to win the Larry O'Brien. That team took us out in 5.
The Heat are a solid, well coached team.
I pray this will not be Deja Vu all over again.
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| jodeke wrote: | The thing that bothers me about this series is the memory of the 2004 Detroit Pistons.
They had no superstars, they had a solid team. We were hands down favorites to win the Larry O'Brien. That team took us out in 5.
The Heat are a solid, well coached team.
I pray this will not be Deja Vu all over again. |
this Laker team's chemistry is far FAR better than the 2004 team. |
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Also that Pistons team was historically amazing on defense and no one on Heat compares to them so NEXT
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | The thing that bothers me about this series is the memory of the 2004 Detroit Pistons.
They had no superstars, they had a solid team. We were hands down favorites to win the Larry O'Brien. That team took us out in 5.
The Heat are a solid, well coached team.
I pray this will not be Deja Vu all over again. |
this Laker team's chemistry is far FAR better than the 2004 team. |
This.
Lakers' chemistry in 2004 was basically non existent. |
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Heat remind me more of Orlando than Detroit.
That Orlando team had Dwight this team has Bam.
That Orlando team was set up to shoot the 3 so is this team.
That Orlando team had a good but not great PG so does this team.
I think we just need to focus on what we want rather than the worst things that could happen.
We have to stop acting like we dont have Bron and AD and play great D. Just a thought.
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DAMN!!! Y'all act like I think we're gonna lose. I've got the Lakers in 5. I'm not taking Prozac anymore. Jus thowin in some Deja Vu. 
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| jodeke wrote: | | DAMN!!! Y'all act like I think we're gonna lose. I've got the Lakers in 5. I'm not taking Prozac anymore. Jus thowin in some Deja Vu. |
The Heat is going Down! |
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Since the finals are on ABC, one viewing option might be: https://www.locast.org/
It's a non-profit that allows you to stream local channels for free in certain metropolitan areas (including LA and SF).
Going to try it tonight on Roku. |
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FOUR MORE
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| CervantesRises wrote: | Heat remind me more of Orlando than Detroit.
That Orlando team had Dwight this team has Bam.
That Orlando team was set up to shoot the 3 so is this team.
That Orlando team had a good but not great PG so does this team.
I think we just need to focus on what we want rather than the worst things that could happen.
We have to stop acting like we dont have Bron and AD and play great D. Just a thought. |
That was always my comparison: 2009 Orlando Magic. Hey Guys: take note. that 2009 Orlando Magic team that no one really respects because we spanked them was ranked number 1 in defensive rating that entire year - something these Heat are not. Let me also throw in one more similarity. Their main gravity player especially in crunch time is Hedo Turkoglu who is very comparable in skill and overall level to Jimmy Butler of today - except turkey-glu was dangerous from 3 point line unlike Butler. Lets also bring up the fact the 2009 Howard was twice the player Bam is today - literally 3rd or 4th best playerin the league depending on where you put Wade and Howard. Dont bring up the 2004 Pistons: This team is built much more closely to the 2009 Magic except they are worse than those Magic. Even in that Magic series, had Jameer Nelson been heathy that easily could have gone 6 games. Oh yea....one more comp: We are better than the 2009 Lakers |
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AirTupac
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| 1995Lakers wrote: | | CervantesRises wrote: | Heat remind me more of Orlando than Detroit.
That Orlando team had Dwight this team has Bam.
That Orlando team was set up to shoot the 3 so is this team.
That Orlando team had a good but not great PG so does this team.
I think we just need to focus on what we want rather than the worst things that could happen.
We have to stop acting like we dont have Bron and AD and play great D. Just a thought. |
That was always my comparison: 2009 Orlando Magic. Hey Guys: take note. that 2009 Orlando Magic team that no one really respects because we spanked them was ranked number 1 in defensive rating that entire year - something these Heat are not. Let me also throw in one more similarity. Their main gravity player especially in crunch time is Hedo Turkoglu who is very comparable in skill and overall level to Jimmy Butler of today - except turkey-glu was dangerous from 3 point line unlike Butler. Lets also bring up the fact the 2009 Howard was twice the player Bam is today - literally 3rd or 4th best playerin the league depending on where you put Wade and Howard. Dont bring up the 2004 Pistons: This team is built much more closely to the 2009 Magic except they are worse than those Magic. Even in that Magic series, had Jameer Nelson been heathy that easily could have gone 6 games. Oh yea....one more comp: We are better than the 2009 Lakers |
Great post. I still take 09 Lakers over this team because I'm a fan boy of that team. Prime Kobe-Gasol with great role players? Amazing.
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Nice to see Dion get some burn. I'm not sold on giving JR any. Give him a ring for cheer leading.
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| AirTupac wrote: | | 1995Lakers wrote: | | CervantesRises wrote: | Heat remind me more of Orlando than Detroit.
That Orlando team had Dwight this team has Bam.
That Orlando team was set up to shoot the 3 so is this team.
That Orlando team had a good but not great PG so does this team.
I think we just need to focus on what we want rather than the worst things that could happen.
We have to stop acting like we dont have Bron and AD and play great D. Just a thought. |
That was always my comparison: 2009 Orlando Magic. Hey Guys: take note. that 2009 Orlando Magic team that no one really respects because we spanked them was ranked number 1 in defensive rating that entire year - something these Heat are not. Let me also throw in one more similarity. Their main gravity player especially in crunch time is Hedo Turkoglu who is very comparable in skill and overall level to Jimmy Butler of today - except turkey-glu was dangerous from 3 point line unlike Butler. Lets also bring up the fact the 2009 Howard was twice the player Bam is today - literally 3rd or 4th best playerin the league depending on where you put Wade and Howard. Dont bring up the 2004 Pistons: This team is built much more closely to the 2009 Magic except they are worse than those Magic. Even in that Magic series, had Jameer Nelson been heathy that easily could have gone 6 games. Oh yea....one more comp: We are better than the 2009 Lakers |
Great post. I still take 09 Lakers over this team because I'm a fan boy of that team. Prime Kobe-Gasol with great role players? Amazing. |
This is the way I thought of it because I have great memories of that team as well and I still have vivid memories of exactly how good that team was:
Current Lebron = 2009 Kobe That Kobe was razor sharp, clutch and extremely focused and was the 2nd best player in the league who i knew was really was the best player in the league because I knew Kobe would have beaten and outplayed Lebron in the biggest moments had the Lakers met the Cavs in the finals. Exact same description for current Lebron had they met Giannis and the Bucks. Their levels are roughly equivalent
Current AD > 2009 Pau 2nd greatest version of Pau I have ever seen and extremely efficient (the best was early 2010-2011 season). No version of Pau though beats AD especially if you factor in defense which Pau was good at this year in terms of moving his feet and rim protection but this is AD.
Current DG = 2009 Fisher Both declining veterans with inconsistent shooting who can make timely veteran plays. Fisher started his decline this year
Current KCP = 2009 Ariza Here I would note that current KCP as a player overall is better than the 2009 version of Ariza but Trevor was on a hot streak in the playoffs and made great clutch defensive plays vs the Nuggets. There were a few minuses though: Ariza could not guard the strength and physicality of Carmelo.
Current Dwight > 2009 Bynum Andrew was too green to have an impact in these playoffs. Current Dwight is far more useful as a player than 2009 Bynum was.
Current Bench (Rondo, Caruso, Kuzma, Markieff) = 2009 Bench (Odom, Farmar, Brown, Walton) 2009 Odom is the best player on this list by far and Farmar and Brown had their moments - especially Jordy starting for suspended Fisher who decked Scola. All that said Rondo and Caruso's impact has been fantastic and Kieff has had moments of vital importance. I only call this a tie because Odom was so good and was really the starter for the 2009 Lakers - far more important than Bynum. All the other bench comparisons, the current Lakers have been better than their 2009 counterparts |
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| Wolverine wrote: | Since the finals are on ABC, one viewing option might be: https://www.locast.org/
It's a non-profit that allows you to stream local channels for free in certain metropolitan areas (including LA and SF).
Going to try it tonight on Roku. |
ABC is a national channel. Aren't you able to view it?
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