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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 7:20 am Post subject:
leor_77 wrote:
Got Pfizer #2 yesterday at 9 AM. Felt fine, and then sides started to hit about 5-6 hours later. Mainly fatigue/tiredness/heaviness - Slept a ton last night. Was actually too tired to watch the Lakers/Dodgers games yest (prob a good thing). Overall, I'm feeling much better today.
I got Pfizer 1 & 2. The only thing I felt was a slight ache at the injection point. I think one's immune system has a lot to do with how it reacts to the vaccination. Have you been ill lately? I mean even something like a headache or cold, slight illness of any kind.? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
Going to get my 2nd Moderna shot later today. I hope I don't feel too bad afterwards, I have an interview for a promotion on Monday.
_________________ "Dread it, run from it... destiny arrives all the same."
Got my 2nd Pfizer shot on Saturday around 11:45 AM. Around 11 - 11:30 PM, I got some of the worst chills I've ever experienced in my life -- I'm talking full body uncontrollably shivering. One of the weirdest things I've ever experienced.
Managed to fall asleep around 12:15, but woke up probably 7 or 8 times during the night. Ended up waking up for good around 7:30 or 8 AM on Sunday, and my body just felt very heavy and just generally sore (luckily the chills were mostly gone, or at least were much more mild). By around noon I was feeling much better, probably around 80 - 85% of normal. Stayed around there for the rest of the day Sunday. Woke up this morning at 100%.
From who I've talked to, it seems like the 2nd shot is hitting younger people worse than it is older people. I'm 26, and most of my friends my age who have had it also had bad symptoms from the 2nd shot. But my mom who's 64 was completely fine, as were most of my parent's friends around that age. Not sure if it has something to do with stronger immune response from younger people with stronger immune systems or what, but just found that weird.
Anyways, that was my experience in case anyone who's gearing up for their 2nd shot is interested
Pretty similar experience with my second Pfizer dose. I only had fatigue after the first.
Ugh, that doesn’t sound like fun. I had very minor chills and a mild sore arm after the first, which was no big deal but more than I expected.
Still beats getting Covid though and it’s not even close.
Had my 2nd shot 14 hours ago and felt a lot of fatigue around 2-4 hours ago, but I didn’t mind as I haven’t been sleeping much recently so I felt I needed the sleep. Feel less tired now and I’m hoping that’s it.
Excess mortality is influenced by six drivers of all-cause mortality that relate to the pandemic and the social distancing mandates that came with the pandemic. These six drivers are: a) the total COVID-19 death rate, that is, all deaths directly related to COVID-19 infection; b) the increase in mortality due to needed health care being delayed or deferred during the pandemic; c) the increase in mortality due to increases in mental health disorders including depression, increased alcohol use, and increased opioid use; d) the reduction in mortality due to decreases in injuries because of general reductions in mobility associated with social distancing mandates; e) the reductions in mortality due to reduced transmission of other viruses, most notably influenza, respiratory syncytial virus, and measles; and f) the reductions in mortality due to some chronic conditions, such as cardiovascular disease and chronic respiratory disease, that occur when frail individuals who would have died from these conditions died earlier from COVID-19 instead. To correctly estimate the total COVID-19 mortality, we need to take into account all six of these drivers of change in mortality that have happened since the onset of the pandemic.
Total .....Reported Country
905,289 574,043 United States of America
654,395 221,181 India
617,127 217,694 Mexico
595,903 408,680 Brazil
593,610 109,334 Russian Federation
209,661 150,519 United Kingdom
175,832 121,257 Italy
174,177 072,906 Iran
170,041 013,529 Egypt
160,452 054,390 South Africa
149,855 068,237 Poland
147,765 062,739 Peru
138,507 046,737 Ukraine
132,680 105,506 France
123,786 085,365 Spain
120,729 083,256 Germany
115,743 045,938 Indonesia
108,320 010,390 Japan
087,649 028,382 Romania
081,696 005,620 Kazakhstan _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo"
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 1:42 pm Post subject:
Quote:
The Washington Post @washingtonpost
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FDA authorizes Pfizer coronavirus vaccine for adolescents 12 to 15 years old
Biden admin says available immediately. If you have a kid in this age range you can take them for the vaccine today to a site near you, if you like. _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 1:54 pm Post subject:
SweetP wrote:
Quote:
The Washington Post @washingtonpost
22m
FDA authorizes Pfizer coronavirus vaccine for adolescents 12 to 15 years old
Biden admin says available immediately. If you have a kid in this age range you can take them for the vaccine today to a site near you, if you like.
Good to hear. I wish we'd return to the days of old when, if you wanted your child to go to school some vaccinations were mandatory. I got them all, Measles, Polio, Whooping Cough, Small Pox, Chicken Pox, Mumps, and some I've probably forgotten, free of charge. I still have the smallpox scar. I remember that being the only vaccination that hurt. You were pricked 15 times in a small dime-sized area.
These are diseases that use to be a threat. Vaccinations have controlled or eradicated most of them. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 2:02 pm Post subject:
I've had both shots of the Pfizer vaccine.
The first shot only resulted in mild soreness in the shoulder. After shot #2 my shoulder was moderately sore, and the day after the shot my armpit on the injection side was a bit swollen (lymph nodes I guess). Other than that, I can't really pinpoint any symptoms as definitively caused by the vaccine. (mid 30s, athletic specimen , hydrated very well going into second shot)
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 2:08 pm Post subject:
So what month from 2020 is this month most similar to so far? The US is averaging 30,000 cases per day, but that's with widespread testing availability. 30,000 was the same as June 2020, but there were fewer people getting tested. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
So what month from 2020 is this month most similar to so far? The US is averaging 30,000 cases per day, but that's with widespread testing availability. 30,000 was the same as June 2020, but there were fewer people getting tested.
You have a valid point, a better comparison may be the positivity rate, but that too has many questions e.g. was the positivity rate artificially boosted earlier because only symptomatic people were being tested. Clearly testing hasn't been random which is what's needed to make a valid comparison
John's Hopkins Daily State-by-State Testing Trends
The positivity rate is the lowest since measurement started and is trending sharply lower right now.
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 2:05 pm Post subject:
ThePageDude wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
So what month from 2020 is this month most similar to so far? The US is averaging 30,000 cases per day, but that's with widespread testing availability. 30,000 was the same as June 2020, but there were fewer people getting tested.
You have a valid point, a better comparison may be the positivity rate, but that too has many questions e.g. was the positivity rate artificially boosted earlier because only symptomatic people were being tested. Clearly testing hasn't been random which is what's needed to make a valid comparison
John's Hopkins Daily State-by-State Testing Trends
The positivity rate is the lowest since measurement started and is trending sharply lower right now.
Which do you think was worse, March 2020 or now? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
So what month from 2020 is this month most similar to so far? The US is averaging 30,000 cases per day, but that's with widespread testing availability. 30,000 was the same as June 2020, but there were fewer people getting tested.
You have a valid point, a better comparison may be the positivity rate, but that too has many questions e.g. was the positivity rate artificially boosted earlier because only symptomatic people were being tested. Clearly testing hasn't been random which is what's needed to make a valid comparison
John's Hopkins Daily State-by-State Testing Trends
The positivity rate is the lowest since measurement started and is trending sharply lower right now.
Which do you think was worse, March 2020 or now?
It's a mixed bag. In many states it's now much better than in March 2020 e.g. New York. Meanwhile in some states it's worse e.g. Georgia, Florida, they hardly had any cases back then but now the virus seems to have taken a foothold and will take much more time to stamp out (hopefully).
Overall I'd say March 2020 was better because while the overall US incidence rates were comparable at least they were confined to fewer areas.
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 3:19 pm Post subject:
ThePageDude wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
ThePageDude wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
So what month from 2020 is this month most similar to so far? The US is averaging 30,000 cases per day, but that's with widespread testing availability. 30,000 was the same as June 2020, but there were fewer people getting tested.
You have a valid point, a better comparison may be the positivity rate, but that too has many questions e.g. was the positivity rate artificially boosted earlier because only symptomatic people were being tested. Clearly testing hasn't been random which is what's needed to make a valid comparison
John's Hopkins Daily State-by-State Testing Trends
The positivity rate is the lowest since measurement started and is trending sharply lower right now.
Which do you think was worse, March 2020 or now?
It's a mixed bag. In many states it's now much better than in March 2020 e.g. New York. Meanwhile in some states it's worse e.g. Georgia, Florida, they hardly had any cases back then but now the virus seems to have taken a foothold and will take much more time to stamp out (hopefully).
Overall I'd say March 2020 was better because while the overall US case rates were comparable, at least they were far more confined to fewer areas.
Both Republican states didn't mandate the wearing of masks and opened to early. Republicans are virus spreaders. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 5:02 pm Post subject:
ThePageDude wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
ThePageDude wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
So what month from 2020 is this month most similar to so far? The US is averaging 30,000 cases per day, but that's with widespread testing availability. 30,000 was the same as June 2020, but there were fewer people getting tested.
You have a valid point, a better comparison may be the positivity rate, but that too has many questions e.g. was the positivity rate artificially boosted earlier because only symptomatic people were being tested. Clearly testing hasn't been random which is what's needed to make a valid comparison
John's Hopkins Daily State-by-State Testing Trends
The positivity rate is the lowest since measurement started and is trending sharply lower right now.
Which do you think was worse, March 2020 or now?
It's a mixed bag. In many states it's now much better than in March 2020 e.g. New York. Meanwhile in some states it's worse e.g. Georgia, Florida, they hardly had any cases back then but now the virus seems to have taken a foothold and will take much more time to stamp out (hopefully).
Overall I'd say March 2020 was better because while the overall US incidence rates were comparable at least they were confined to fewer areas.
Oh wow. So even with the pandemic close to "over," it's still worse than when all the stay-at-home orders were first enacted? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
So what month from 2020 is this month most similar to so far? The US is averaging 30,000 cases per day, but that's with widespread testing availability. 30,000 was the same as June 2020, but there were fewer people getting tested.
You have a valid point, a better comparison may be the positivity rate, but that too has many questions e.g. was the positivity rate artificially boosted earlier because only symptomatic people were being tested. Clearly testing hasn't been random which is what's needed to make a valid comparison
John's Hopkins Daily State-by-State Testing Trends
The positivity rate is the lowest since measurement started and is trending sharply lower right now.
Which do you think was worse, March 2020 or now?
It's a mixed bag. In many states it's now much better than in March 2020 e.g. New York. Meanwhile in some states it's worse e.g. Georgia, Florida, they hardly had any cases back then but now the virus seems to have taken a foothold and will take much more time to stamp out (hopefully).
Overall I'd say March 2020 was better because while the overall US incidence rates were comparable at least they were confined to fewer areas.
Oh wow. So even with the pandemic close to "over," it's still worse than when all the stay-at-home orders were first enacted?
Infection rates are up again, but serious illness and deaths are far lower. Back in March 2020, spotting an actual elderly person out in the wild was rare. Today the Blue Hairs are again out slowing down self checkout lines and disrupting the free flow of traffic with pretty much the same vigor they did prepandemic. _________________ I'm On point, On task, On message, and Off drugs. A Streetwise Smart Bomb, Out of rehab and In denial. Over the Top, On the edge, Under the Radar, and In Control. Behind the 8 ball, Ahead of the Curve and I've got a Love Child who sends me Hate mail.
So what month from 2020 is this month most similar to so far? The US is averaging 30,000 cases per day, but that's with widespread testing availability. 30,000 was the same as June 2020, but there were fewer people getting tested.
You have a valid point, a better comparison may be the positivity rate, but that too has many questions e.g. was the positivity rate artificially boosted earlier because only symptomatic people were being tested. Clearly testing hasn't been random which is what's needed to make a valid comparison
John's Hopkins Daily State-by-State Testing Trends
The positivity rate is the lowest since measurement started and is trending sharply lower right now.
Which do you think was worse, March 2020 or now?
It's a mixed bag. In many states it's now much better than in March 2020 e.g. New York. Meanwhile in some states it's worse e.g. Georgia, Florida, they hardly had any cases back then but now the virus seems to have taken a foothold and will take much more time to stamp out (hopefully).
Overall I'd say March 2020 was better because while the overall US incidence rates were comparable at least they were confined to fewer areas.
Oh wow. So even with the pandemic close to "over," it's still worse than when all the stay-at-home orders were first enacted?
The "close to over" has to do with the trend, and not with the current "snapshot" of the number/spread of cases. At that time it was trending worse (thus giving impetus for lockdowns), while at this time it's trending towards much better.
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 2:16 pm Post subject:
Got my first dose of the Moderna vaccine yesterday. So far the only side effect I've had is soreness in and around the injection site. Hopefully that means I'm building robust immunity to SARS-CoV-2. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers
Oh well maybe this will convince Republican men to get vaccinated. _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman
Ohio is starting a Vaccine Lotto Jackpot to encourage people to get vaccinated. Anyone over 18 who gets vaccinated is eligible for a $1 Million dollar weekly prize.
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 12:18 pm Post subject:
President Biden announced if you've been vaccinated you no longer need to wear a mask. He explained that meaning if you've been fully vaccinated. I only caught the tail end of his speech.
I've been fully vaccinated but will continue to wear a mask in public. There are too many people who haven't been vaccinated out there. I'm rowing the better safe than sorry canoe. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 12:25 pm Post subject:
Yes the CDC released new guidance that fully vaccinated individuals no longer need to wear a mask at most places indoors and out. When mask mandates are lifted in my county I’ll be going maskless at the store, restaurants, etc. I feel confident in this vaccine and I’m ready to reap the benefits of doing my part. It’s definitely going to feel weird walking into the grocery store with out a mask that first time.
Yes the CDC released new guidance that fully vaccinated individuals no longer need to wear a mask at most places indoors and out. When mask mandates are lifted in my county I’ll be going maskless at the store, restaurants, etc. I feel confident in this vaccine and I’m ready to reap the benefits of doing my part. It’s definitely going to feel weird walking into the grocery store with out a mask that first time.
So a maskless4th of July is seeming more realistic? Guess now would be a good time to buy some Wrigley's and Listerine stock. _________________ I'm On point, On task, On message, and Off drugs. A Streetwise Smart Bomb, Out of rehab and In denial. Over the Top, On the edge, Under the Radar, and In Control. Behind the 8 ball, Ahead of the Curve and I've got a Love Child who sends me Hate mail.
I'm still going to mask in public spaces densely packed with people. I want to see if things spike after Memorial Day weekend and July 4th weekend. If no spikes and no proliferation of variants, then I'll feel more comfortable. I don't mind wearing a mask until then.
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 1:58 pm Post subject:
Halflife wrote:
Tbh I actually don’t mind a mask. I will probably be one of the last hold outs
No, you won't. You'll have company. I'll be masking for a while. IMO it's to soon to go maskless. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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