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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:27 pm    Post subject:

in what world is Michael Finley or SHawn Marion all star NOMINEES?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:00 pm    Post subject:

BlackStarMamba wrote:
in what world is Michael Finley or SHawn Marion all star NOMINEES?


Finely definitely shouldn't get in, but Marion might be just outside of what you consider borderline.

At first glance his accolades don't yell HOF

1x Champion
4x All-Star
2x All-NBA

But he was a 20/10 player or close to for about a 7 year stretch. I remember him being a fantasy basketball stud for many years. He was the third most important player on the iconic/revolutionary 7 Seconds or Less Suns (one of the most talented teams to not win a championship). He was a key contributor to the 2011 cinderella championship Mavs.

According to HOF calculator he is at 76% probability to make the HOF. Above HOFs like Nate Thurmond, Dennis Rodman, Mitch Richmond, Artis Gilmore, Chris Mullin. He is also way above future HOFs like Manu Ginobili and Chris Webber. He is currently sitting in the #93 position and most of the guys above him are either in the HOF or will make it there eventually when they retire.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:54 pm    Post subject:

Is going to be Phil Jackson!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:56 pm    Post subject:

It's only been 3 years since he retired? Feels like 4 or 5. Was about to ask why he wasn't inducted sooner
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:07 pm    Post subject:

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who will Kobe ask to be his inductor?

Logo? MJ? Shaq(highly unlikely)?, Russel?


Phil? Pau? Fish?


prolly magic or west

MJ

Cooper.
He has a good story to tell to break the ice...

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:11 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:13 pm    Post subject:

GTL wrote:
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:14 pm    Post subject:

NBA hall of fame should start inducting duos and trios. You’ll have Kobe and Shaq as a duo, The big 3 in Miami and Boston, the Showtime Lakers, Badboy Pistons, etc. You’ll end up having two time hall of famers. Considering the NBA and WWE business model of “sports entertainment” are so closely tied these days, the nba might as well adopt their hall of fame formula as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:18 pm    Post subject:

GTL wrote:
NBA hall of fame should start inducting duos and trios. You’ll have Kobe and Shaq as a duo, The big 3 in Miami and Boston, the Showtime Lakers, Badboy Pistons, etc. You’ll end up having two time hall of famers. Considering the NBA and WWE business model of “sports entertainment” are so closely tied these days, the nba might as well adopt their hall of fame formula as well.


Or triple nominees when you factor in Hall of Fame Kicks
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:20 pm    Post subject:

GTL wrote:
NBA hall of fame should start inducting duos and trios. You’ll have Kobe and Shaq as a duo, The big 3 in Miami and Boston, the Showtime Lakers, Badboy Pistons, etc. You’ll end up having two time hall of famers. Considering the NBA and WWE business model of “sports entertainment” are so closely tied these days, the nba might as well adopt their hall of fame formula as well.

Good thinking. Starting from the least to the most dominant ones.
It certainly will create a buzz around the league as who get the last...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:24 pm    Post subject:

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"In addition to Bryant, Duncan, Garnett and Bosh, other players nominated for the first time this year include Shawn Marion, Michael Finley, Mark Eaton and Buck Williams."

Say what? Mark Eaton is nominated? I realize that it's just a nomination, but I'm still astounded that anyone would put his name on the list.


Don't know but that triggered memory of Olden Polynice iirc impersonating a LA police officer
Maybe Eaton found a way to vote for himself?
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-nov-11-sp-50438-story.html
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:46 pm    Post subject:

LaLaLakeShow wrote:
GTL wrote:
22 wrote:
Batguano wrote:
Chronicle wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
Cutheon wrote:
KOBE


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Clang the cowbells slowly.

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"Cowbells never blocked my jump shot," Kobe said, and that might be the title of the Lakers' season highlight video.

If it's any consolation to the locals, their town is now a lot safer. With the bells returned to their rightful owners, you can walk the streets of Sacramento without worrying about cows sneaking up on you.

https://m.sfgate.com/sports/ostler/article/LAKERS-RING-SACRAMENTO-S-BELL-Champs-shatter-3314495.php
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:49 pm    Post subject:

moonriver24 wrote:
GTL wrote:
NBA hall of fame should start inducting duos and trios. You’ll have Kobe and Shaq as a duo, The big 3 in Miami and Boston, the Showtime Lakers, Badboy Pistons, etc. You’ll end up having two time hall of famers. Considering the NBA and WWE business model of “sports entertainment” are so closely tied these days, the nba might as well adopt their hall of fame formula as well.

Good thinking. Starting from the least to the most dominant ones.
It certainly will create a buzz around the league as who get the last...


I can name a few -

Blake Griffin/CP3
Q Rich/Darius Miles
John Starks/Patrick Ewing
Earl Boykins/Michael Olowokandi

Some of those guys have to be Clippers hall of famers at the very least.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:58 pm    Post subject:

Batguano wrote:
BlackStarMamba wrote:
in what world is Michael Finley or SHawn Marion all star NOMINEES?


Finely definitely shouldn't get in, but Marion might be just outside of what you consider borderline.

At first glance his accolades don't yell HOF

1x Champion
4x All-Star
2x All-NBA

But he was a 20/10 player or close to for about a 7 year stretch. I remember him being a fantasy basketball stud for many years. He was the third most important player on the iconic/revolutionary 7 Seconds or Less Suns (one of the most talented teams to not win a championship). He was a key contributor to the 2011 cinderella championship Mavs.

According to HOF calculator he is at 76% probability to make the HOF. Above HOFs like Nate Thurmond, Dennis Rodman, Mitch Richmond, Artis Gilmore, Chris Mullin. He is also way above future HOFs like Manu Ginobili and Chris Webber. He is currently sitting in the #93 position and most of the guys above him are either in the HOF or will make it there eventually when they retire.


hall of fame means extraordinary. you gotta remember Manu will be easily a hall of famer because of what he has does internationally with Argentina as well as the Spurs. Kinda like Divac. So Manu's accolades trumps Marion. Webber should be in before Marion, over any metric except the championships.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:47 pm    Post subject:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:
"In addition to Bryant, Duncan, Garnett and Bosh, other players nominated for the first time this year include Shawn Marion, Michael Finley, Mark Eaton and Buck Williams."

Say what? Mark Eaton is nominated? I realize that it's just a nomination, but I'm still astounded that anyone would put his name on the list.


And let's hear it for returning nominees Mugsy Bogues, Dale Ellis, and Richard Hamilton.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:38 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
who will Kobe ask to be his inductor?

Logo? MJ? Shaq(highly unlikely)?, Russel?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:47 pm    Post subject:

The only locks are Bryant, Duncan, Garnett and Catchings.

Others might get in eventually but this class is too tough.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:46 pm    Post subject:

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The only locks are Bryant, Duncan, Garnett and Catchings.

Others might get in eventually but this class is too tough.


I'm not sure if the class matters since in the basketball system people aren't voting for a limited number of players, like in baseball.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:47 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
It's only been 3 years since he retired? Feels like 4 or 5. Was about to ask why he wasn't inducted sooner

I thought there was a 5-year waiting period before someone could be nominated.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:52 am    Post subject:

I have been holding off our family vacation to Boston until this happens. Now I can take my kids to spring field and show all the legends.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:43 am    Post subject:

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who will Kobe ask to be his inductor?



Jerry West or Shaq would be my guess.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:53 am    Post subject:

So cool that they may get inducted together...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:02 am    Post subject:

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