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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:49 pm    Post subject:

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Hakeem's PER never gets any mention since it was only over a 4 game stretch. Lebron met all the sample minimums at 14 games.


Hakeem qualifies per basketball-reference.com. In any event, it's irrelevant since Kawhi still didn't get close to the highest playoff PER all-time by any minimum game requirement and he did not average 38 ppg. Both are false.

But if it satisfies all the Kawhistans out there, yes, Kawhi is presently 10th all time in playoff PER beating the likes of Kobe, Magic, Cap, West, and Wilt. Good for him. Let's just use accurate data.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:53 pm    Post subject:

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Hakeem's PER never gets any mention since it was only over a 4 game stretch. Lebron met all the sample minimums at 14 games.


Hakeem qualifies per basketball-reference.com. In any event, it's irrelevant since Kawhi still didn't get close to the highest playoff PER all-time by any minimum game requirement and he did not average 38 ppg. Both are false.

But if it satisfies all the Kawhistans out there, yes, Kawhi is presently 10th all time in playoff PER beating the likes of Kobe, Magic, Cap, West, and Wilt. Good for him. Let's just use accurate data.


Right, but it's not used in discussions of highest PER because of it being a 4 game sample. That's all I'm getting at.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:07 pm    Post subject:

I don't buy some of the BS I have read that the Clippers medical staff somehow misdiagnosed Kawhi's injury.
Anyone with a clue knows that the MRI does that and we know he had one at some point. How could they misdiagnose him then? So stupid whoever is reporting that.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:54 pm    Post subject:

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I don't buy some of the BS I have read that the Clippers medical staff somehow misdiagnosed Kawhi's injury.
Anyone with a clue knows that the MRI does that and we know he had one at some point. How could they misdiagnose him then? So stupid whoever is reporting that.

I agree. silly narrative. IMO they were saying sprained not because they expected him back but because it gave fans hope and possibly his team. They were playing well and part of it could have been because they were expecting him back. If you are a medical professional, as you said you can read an MRI.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:09 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:21 am    Post subject:

Clippers really trying to just take ex Lakers, huh?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:29 am    Post subject:

im so glad they lost Kenny Atkinson.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:50 am    Post subject:

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Right, but it's not used in discussions of highest PER because of it being a 4 game sample. That's all I'm getting at.


And all I was getting at is that you were posting false information about Kawhi's statistics.

But that said, who is even having discussions about the highest PER in the playoffs? And why are these people making arbitrary decisions over what constitutes playoffs? Discounting Hakeem's 4 games is the same as saying Wilt or Kobe's highest scoring games don't count since they were only one game. So what? Hakeem played a series in the playoffs and had the highest number for a sort of meaningless stat. Like would it mean more if he did it over 6 games? Or 10? So let's say Hakeem has the highest PER for a single playoff series and leave it at that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:03 am    Post subject:

RG73 wrote:
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Right, but it's not used in discussions of highest PER because of it being a 4 game sample. That's all I'm getting at.


And all I was getting at is that you were posting false information about Kawhi's statistics.

But that said, who is even having discussions about the highest PER in the playoffs? And why are these people making arbitrary decisions over what constitutes playoffs? Discounting Hakeem's 4 games is the same as saying Wilt or Kobe's highest scoring games don't count since they were only one game. So what? Hakeem played a series in the playoffs and had the highest number for a sort of meaningless stat. Like would it mean more if he did it over 6 games? Or 10? So let's say Hakeem has the highest PER for a single playoff series and leave it at that.


That was another poster.

Also, sample size is important depending on the discussion. That's why there's a 58 game minimum (or 58 game pace) for scoring Titles.

Your point about the highest scoring game makes no sense as it discounts the context of my original point. No one would dare question the sample size of a single game if the discussion is about a single game.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:13 am    Post subject:

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Clippers really trying to just take ex Lakers, huh?


I will take Shaw for Atkinson swap all day.

Thank you Clippers. I heard Byron Scott is an elite AC too!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:34 pm    Post subject:

Why did the Clippers make those draft picks to OKC UNPROTECTED in the Paul George trade? Would it have killed the deal to make 1-5 protected?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:59 pm    Post subject:

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Why did the Clippers make those draft picks to OKC UNPROTECTED in the Paul George trade? Would it have killed the deal to make 1-5 protected?


You know Kawhi camp holding both Lakers and Clippers hostage during nego, it was PG or Lakers
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https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1415734920539000832?s=21


Hope they run the triangle
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:43 pm    Post subject:

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Why did the Clippers make those draft picks to OKC UNPROTECTED in the Paul George trade? Would it have killed the deal to make 1-5 protected?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:08 pm    Post subject:

Fyi: Kawhi and Ibaka player options expire 8/1.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:11 pm    Post subject:

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Fyi: Kawhi and Ibaka player options expire 8/1.


wonder how much Baldmer is wining and dining Kawhi's crew right now
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:32 pm    Post subject:

With the Clippers probably not treating Kawhi's partially torn ACL seriously, Kawhi's probably gone. Prob to the Heat or the Warriors. I think the Heat would be fun
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:45 pm    Post subject:

epic_ wrote:
Iron Mamba wrote:
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Shams: Clippers serious discussions to hire Brian Shaw


https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1415734920539000832?s=21


Hope they run the triangle


Don't look now, but the Clippers could end up being more of a Paul George team than a Kawhi Leonard team.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:59 am    Post subject:

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epic_ wrote:
Iron Mamba wrote:
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Shams: Clippers serious discussions to hire Brian Shaw


https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1415734920539000832?s=21


Hope they run the triangle


Don't look now, but the Clippers could end up being more of a Paul George team than a Kawhi Leonard team.

which means those that hate them will never have to worry about them getting a ring.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:01 am    Post subject:

That push by Chris Paul was exactly the reason I can’t support this dude winning.
He could have injured Giannis.
Go Bucks!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:13 am    Post subject:

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epic_ wrote:
Iron Mamba wrote:
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Shams: Clippers serious discussions to hire Brian Shaw


https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1415734920539000832?s=21


Hope they run the triangle


Don't look now, but the Clippers could end up being more of a Paul George team than a Kawhi Leonard team.


Kawhi picks the Clippers because he wanted his own team, then gets demoted to second banana anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:43 am    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Laker's Fan wrote:
epic_ wrote:
Iron Mamba wrote:
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Shams: Clippers serious discussions to hire Brian Shaw


https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1415734920539000832?s=21


Hope they run the triangle


Don't look now, but the Clippers could end up being more of a Paul George team than a Kawhi Leonard team.


Kawhi picks the Clippers because he wanted his own team, then gets demoted to second banana anyway.


only problem their is PG. he himself doesnt think he is #1...see RW, Kawhi. he always bow downs to the alpha on the team
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:56 am    Post subject:

anth2000 wrote:
That push by Chris Paul was exactly the reason I can’t support this dude winning.
He could have injured Giannis.
Go Bucks!!!


Using that reasoning, shouldn’t you not support Giannis for slapping Booker across the face on the earlier breakaway dunk?

He could have injured Booker.

Calls have been inconsistent all series. Some big fouls not called and some minor contact getting calls. The protection of Giannis when he drives to the basket is ridiculous at times. Especially when comparing to the allowed physical play against Paul and Booker.

Been a fun series to watch. Very competitive. Intense and players making defensive plays and hitting shots. But the refs are their usual inconsistent selfs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:41 am    Post subject:

LGFan wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Laker's Fan wrote:
epic_ wrote:
Iron Mamba wrote:
Quote:
Shams: Clippers serious discussions to hire Brian Shaw


https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1415734920539000832?s=21


Hope they run the triangle


Don't look now, but the Clippers could end up being more of a Paul George team than a Kawhi Leonard team.


Kawhi picks the Clippers because he wanted his own team, then gets demoted to second banana anyway.


only problem their is PG. he himself doesnt think he is #1...see RW, Kawhi. he always bow downs to the alpha on the team

I don’t think it’s that he doesn’t see himself as a #1 but rather he’s trying too hard to defer rather than playing his game naturally. Even before Kawhi went down we saw PG more aggressive and it led to more team success. And then without Kawhi he got even more aggressive. It’s similar to 2011 Lebron deferring too much to wade before he realized he needs to just play his game and not worry about dwade getting his.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:59 pm    Post subject:

Clipps are done, partial ACL tear for KaWhine, they maybe play in bound squad at best next season. Hahahaha
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