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acer77
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AD is fine. The problem is the shots aren't falling right now. Imagine if Curry's 3s weren't falling. Same scenario.
He'll eventually shoot out of his slump and Lakers will be coasting. |
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KingKobe20
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CHUCK TO AD:
“You gotta play better, you’re supposed to be top 5 in the league. 27 years old in your Prime”
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hype
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| acer77 wrote: | AD is fine. The problem is the shots aren't falling right now. Imagine if Curry's 3s weren't falling. Same scenario.
He'll eventually shoot out of his slump and Lakers will be coasting. |
I agree, I can't wait to see AD getting back to shooting like Curry! |
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Kobetan
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^^^ Yea who needs the paint when you can have logo AD  |
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Halflife
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| KingKobe20 wrote: | CHUCK TO AD:
“You gotta play better, you’re supposed to be top 5 in the league. 27 years old in your Prime”
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yup. and his rant on vogel is 100 |
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wolfpaclaker
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I can't believe it. Anthony Davis did not shoot a 3 pointer. Lebron only took 5. As a team, it was almost mid-way 4th and we had 19 three pointers up, only.
For the love of god, someone needs to show these guys on tape how much better they are closer to the basket, than they are playing soft and trying to show everyone how they can shoot. That is what the defense wants.
Let Melo, Ellington, THT and Bradley go 0-5, 0-7 from 3. AD and Bron's job is to get doubles and kick out/find the open man or shoot themselves. Not be shooting 3 pointers themselves as floor spacers as if they are role players.
Probably was our best game as a team where AD played the 5. Other games were ok, the wins as well. This was actually a game where you could see the clear benefits. Because Boston was so worried about AD rolling and being a presence off the ball around the basket, they kept a body on him (sometimes more). This opened up a lot for Bron/Westbrook. |
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Wait till we get Ariza back. And there is that much more defense and floor spacing.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Nice game from AD paying center. Double-Double. 17 points, 16 rebounds, 2 steals, 2 blocks. (+17) and no three point attempts. |
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Hard_Butter
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17 pts and 16 reb....good game, AD.
If he played the 1st half like the 2nd, then he'd have himself a 40-20 game.
Remember when he used to put up those numbers?
Dude was putting up 50-15 games like they were nothing 4 years ago with the Pelicans. I'd see 40-20 games from AD routinely in my fantasy feed during those years. The last time AD put up anything close to those numbers was his first year as a Laker against his former team. Isn't that why we traded for him? Mortgaging our assets and our future? He helped us with one chip but will we ever see that dominant AD again? Hopeful but doubtful for me.
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BandwagonLBJhopper
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| Hard_Butter wrote: | 17 pts and 16 reb....good game, AD.
If he played the 1st half like the 2nd, then he'd have himself a 40-20 game.
Remember when he used to put up those numbers?
Dude was putting up 50-15 games like they were nothing 4 years ago with the Pelicans. I'd see 40-20 games from AD routinely in my fantasy feed during those years. The last time AD put up anything close to those numbers was his first year as a Laker against his former team. Isn't that why we traded for him? Mortgaging our assets and our future? He helped us with one chip but will we ever see that dominant AD again? Hopeful but doubtful for me. |
I’m hopeful you’ll see beast AD more regularly in the playoffs. He might be pacing himself to avoid injury. |
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| Tale of 2 halves, man he got his butt handed to him in the first then AD turned the table around in the second!!! But is it me or he still look kinda out of shape or something is wrong with him, the whole season |
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ThePageDude
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: |
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For the love of god, someone needs to show these guys on tape how much better they are closer to the basket, than they are playing soft and trying to show everyone how they can shoot. That is what the defense wants.
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Sure, agree whole-heartedly, but the other side of the coin is how important it is for there to be at least 2 knock-down shooters (who can also defend) on the floor with them giving Lebron & Westbrook room to operate in the lane. While we played better this game (particularly on defense), I'm still not convinced that the current team-makeup is optimal. Hopefully Ariza helps. |
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danzag
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| Hard_Butter wrote: | 17 pts and 16 reb....good game, AD.
If he played the 1st half like the 2nd, then he'd have himself a 40-20 game.
Remember when he used to put up those numbers?
Dude was putting up 50-15 games like they were nothing 4 years ago with the Pelicans. I'd see 40-20 games from AD routinely in my fantasy feed during those years. The last time AD put up anything close to those numbers was his first year as a Laker against his former team. Isn't that why we traded for him? Mortgaging our assets and our future? He helped us with one chip but will we ever see that dominant AD again? Hopeful but doubtful for me. |
Harder to put those kind of numbers up when you're sharing the ball with LeBron and Westbrook. Not enough shots.
The main thing here is winning games. Last night our big 3 had a balanced effort and got a W, that's what matters |
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| We should thank Charles Barkley for that win! Finally someone says something! That’s what needed to happen but it needed to be from our team, like rondo or bron. It’s clear he’s been soft and not playing well. Forget shots not falling, he just hasn’t been aggressive. I don’t care if he goes 0/10…just be aggressive and show some damn heart! You know he saw or heard about chucks rant. |
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AD23
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The problem I have with AD is he plays too damn far from the basket.
Yes I know u want to shoot the 3 ball. I know u use to be a PG before your growth spurt.
If AD can just anchor 10 ft and closer in the paint and focus on getting 14-15 reb a game and 2-3 blks
This Laker team would be a .700 team. |
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anth2000
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| AD23 wrote: | The problem I have with AD is he plays too damn far from the basket.
Yes I know u want to shoot the 3 ball. I know u use to be a PG before your growth spurt.
If AD can just anchor 10 ft and closer in the paint and focus on getting 14-15 reb a game and 2-3 blks
This Laker team would be a .700 team. |
Totally agree. When he plays inside or in the pick and roll, that is where he is at his best. Shooting mid range is ok when he's open but anything further out just gets annoying.
I agree, when you spend a lot of time camping outside, you can't get rebounds....when you play inside, you can get them.....he did some of that yesterday...I will take the 16 rebounds but I agree, he should have 12-15 rebounds and 2-3 blocks every single game.
The good thing, he did acknowledge in the post game that he wasn't bringing it....
but, he is young, he's in his prime, time to stop loafing it.
I wouldn't trade him though......Unless you are getting a talent like Jokic back. |
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| AD23 wrote: | The problem I have with AD is he plays too damn far from the basket.
Yes I know u want to shoot the 3 ball. I know u use to be a PG before your growth spurt.
If AD can just anchor 10 ft and closer in the paint and focus on getting 14-15 reb a game and 2-3 blks
This Laker team would be a .700 team. |
I will never stop laughing at people thinking AD not "taking it to the rack" is a function of him not feeling like it and not, say, the near absence of driving lanes when Vogel goes a "5-in" lineup where Bradley, THT and Westbrook are all getting sagged off of. Or the fact Vogel hasn't figured out how to beat a double team in 2+ years. Could it also be fatigue from playing with zero good defenders and having to cover corner to corner sometimes?
Nah...he's just being lazv and not wanting it enough! |
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| AD leads the league in points in paint, the problem is he doesn’t look as athletic as peak bubble |
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statyin
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| danzag wrote: | | Hard_Butter wrote: | 17 pts and 16 reb....good game, AD.
If he played the 1st half like the 2nd, then he'd have himself a 40-20 game.
Remember when he used to put up those numbers?
Dude was putting up 50-15 games like they were nothing 4 years ago with the Pelicans. I'd see 40-20 games from AD routinely in my fantasy feed during those years. The last time AD put up anything close to those numbers was his first year as a Laker against his former team. Isn't that why we traded for him? Mortgaging our assets and our future? He helped us with one chip but will we ever see that dominant AD again? Hopeful but doubtful for me. |
Harder to put those kind of numbers up when you're sharing the ball with LeBron and Westbrook. Not enough shots.
The main thing here is winning games. Last night our big 3 had a balanced effort and got a W, that's what matters |
Nah, we need him to step up so that LBJ does not have to carry the team all season. And I believe fans would feel more secure if we see AD at the primary/ secondary option, instead of RW. |
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LGFan
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| sit ur ass down if you are not interested in playing the game |
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| LGFan wrote: | | sit ur ass down if you are not interested in playing the game |
You guys think Jeannie and Pelinka have the guts to listen to trade offers if he keeps playing lazy and uninterested? |
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pjiddy
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| That muscle he put on was really inadvisable. His athleticism for his size is what separated him as a player and now he doesn't have it. |
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pjiddy
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | LGFan wrote: | | sit ur ass down if you are not interested in playing the game |
You guys think Jeannie and Pelinka have the guts to listen to trade offers if he keeps playing lazy and uninterested? |
I don't think he's either of those things. He's slower because he added too much weight. There's also less spacing than last year, and last year's team had a spacing problem. Recipe for a lot of jumpers.
Honestly, a smart team would be wise to try to get him. They'll put him in an offense that makes sense, isn't run by a total dolt, and get him to slim back down. And we'll think it's merely because he's "not in a laker uniform" anymore.
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LGFan
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| pjiddy wrote: | | That muscle he put on was really inadvisable. His athleticism for his size is what separated him as a player and now he doesn't have it. |
the added muscle took away his desire to hustle & play ball or defend... |
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AD is not "that guy".
Compare him to previous Lakers players who got max contracts. He's nowhere near their levels.
I honestly would even take prime Pau over our current 27 year old AD. |
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