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| DAJ shouldn't be playing period. When he's in the game, we're basically deciding to give leads away or make deficits bigger. We can't afford stretches like that. Hopefully we can just bench him for good and don't have to endure bad stretches yet again because of Pelinka-created politics. |
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coldzim
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| Quote: | @JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups |
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danzag
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| coldzim wrote: | | Quote: | @JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups |
Soft! |
All this while carrying the load for us defensively. And he's 8th in minutes per game this season.
The AD hate has got to stop, specially from our own fanbase |
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Halflife
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| coldzim wrote: | | Quote: | @JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups |
Soft! |
and then you look at our record, and how many had him top 5 to start season and nowhere near there now. AD has always been a solid numbers guy, yet he hasn't been able to push us over the top thus far this year. Especially since he was handed the mantle of leader.
Above would imply he goes out night in and night out and dominates the opponent. We know better.
and in regards to "soft". name another player, big or small who hits the ground more from being pushed by smaller guys etc, or always seems to get dinged and let the world know about it through facial gestures, slow moving up court. |
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I think the "soft" stuff is exaggerated, but him sticking outside and shooting jumpers plays right into the hands of the opponents. There's a few things here. One if he starts to make his jumpers again like he did 2 years ago, he would be a dominant player in or ouside. Probably you see him up to 28-29 points a game. Those jumpers and FTs all are all not falling. Look at his FT percentage, his 3s etc.
The other thing is he could abandon the 3 and outside shooting and just go to work inside. This may help in the short term, but in the longrun, we also want situations where AD is spacing the floor a little more for Bron/Westbrook. We saw this in the playoffs in 2020.
I despise when he just (and Bron) sit out there and shoot jumpers again and again. But if those jumpers are created by dribble penetration from a teammate or a post up, I'm ok with it. If AD hismself wants to create, he needs to do it closer to the paint. Even if he's off, I can live with that vs the jumpshots.
But I do hope his jumpshot and 3 come back soon. It's concerning. Not from 3, but at least his midrange 3 was one of the best at one point. |
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pjiddy
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| danzag wrote: | | coldzim wrote: | | Quote: | @JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups |
Soft! |
All this while carrying the load for us defensively. And he's 8th in minutes per game this season.
The AD hate has got to stop, specially from our own fanbase |
He is in last place for "criticism deserved" to me. He's been our MVP by far. |
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| Halflife wrote: | | coldzim wrote: | | Quote: | @JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups |
Soft! |
and then you look at our record, and how many had him top 5 to start season and nowhere near there now. AD has always been a solid numbers guy, yet he hasn't been able to push us over the top thus far this year. Especially since he was handed the mantle of leader.
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You sure it's AD's fault that we've been struggling... or is it more to do with the fact that it's hard go get chemistry when LeBron has yet to manage to play more than 3 games in sequence this year? Yes.. LeBron hasn't played more than 3 game stretches this entire season.
And if you want to blame AD for our record or "not being able to take us over the top". what do you think our record would be if AD wasn't
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups
Better or worse?
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Halflife
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| MJST wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | coldzim wrote: | | Quote: | @JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups |
Soft! |
and then you look at our record, and how many had him top 5 to start season and nowhere near there now. AD has always been a solid numbers guy, yet he hasn't been able to push us over the top thus far this year. Especially since he was handed the mantle of leader.
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You sure it's AD's fault that we've been struggling... or is it more to do with the fact that it's hard go get chemistry when LeBron has yet to manage to play more than 3 games in sequence this year? Yes.. LeBron hasn't played more than 3 game stretches this entire season.
And if you want to blame AD for our record or "not being able to take us over the top". what do you think our record would be if AD wasn't
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups
Better or worse? |
He's the big dog. You can't carry that moniker plus say after every bad team defensive performance it starts with you. 99% of the time he should have an advantage.
He is on paper the best player on our team. Lead us. What would we be without him? No one knows. Russ when a solo show historically has elevated players around him. AD never did never has.
he was called top5 before season
freak
KD
Steph
who else?
swap him with any of those guys and we are much better. Those teams get worse.
he can be, but it starts with us as fans after games being able to say, dang.. AD smashed tonight. So many nights he's not dominant. |
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MookieBetts50
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AD is a strong candidate to be cast in another blockbuster flick (besides Space Jam 2) for M. Knight Shamalan's Glass origins story.
Swear he has a new bump and bruise every damn game. |
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| Day to Davis has to let us know that he always has an ailment, as if the rest of the league’s players aren’t dealing with ailments. |
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MJST
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Some people get so ungrateful.
To look at
@JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups
And go.. "yeah but.. he's not REALLY helping us..." is as ungrateful as it gets. And no, that's not "spoiled" that's out and out ignoring to keep a narrative.
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mad55557777
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| MJST wrote: | Some people get so ungrateful.
To look at
@JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups
And go.. "yeah but.. he's not REALLY helping us..." is as ungrateful as it gets. And no, that's not "spoiled" that's out and out ignoring to keep a narrative. |
since AD is shooting historically low from the 3 and mid range, do people really think Westbrook has nothing to do with AD getting these stats? the pick and roll between Russ and AD has been better than Lebron and AD. |
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| coldzim wrote: | | Quote: | @JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups |
Soft! |
Check out the many videos in this link:
https://www.nba.com/lakers/news/anthony-davis-elite-production-in-the-paint-2021
That’s AD playing alongside DJ or Howard. When we play AD at center, he can goon up on the undersized 4 the ops throw at us. If our ops decides to play a center against AD, Dwight/DJ have opportunities to clean up the offensive board.
So in order to unleash AD the offensive post player, we don’t necessarily have to play him at the 5.
So now it comes down to who plays better defensively alongside AD between Dwight & DJ…and it looks like Vogs has gone with Dwight for now.
| Quote: | Faigen: Frank Vogel, on Dwight's pick and roll defense:
"He's more familiar with what we do."
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| MJST wrote: | Some people get so ungrateful.
To look at
@JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups
And go.. "yeah but.. he's not REALLY helping us..." is as ungrateful as it gets. And no, that's not "spoiled" that's out and out ignoring to keep a narrative. |
no one said he doesn't help us. But lets not act like on a night in and night out basis that he's dominant. he's just not. He certainly doesn't give us 100% every minute he's on the court. |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | I think the "soft" stuff is exaggerated, but him sticking outside and shooting jumpers plays right into the hands of the opponents. There's a few things here. One if he starts to make his jumpers again like he did 2 years ago, he would be a dominant player in or ouside. Probably you see him up to 28-29 points a game. Those jumpers and FTs all are all not falling. Look at his FT percentage, his 3s etc.
The other thing is he could abandon the 3 and outside shooting and just go to work inside. This may help in the short term, but in the longrun, we also want situations where AD is spacing the floor a little more for Bron/Westbrook. We saw this in the playoffs in 2020.
I despise when he just (and Bron) sit out there and shoot jumpers again and again. But if those jumpers are created by dribble penetration from a teammate or a post up, I'm ok with it. If AD hismself wants to create, he needs to do it closer to the paint. Even if he's off, I can live with that vs the jumpshots.
But I do hope his jumpshot and 3 come back soon. It's concerning. Not from 3, but at least his midrange 3 was one of the best at one point. |
I agree with everything you said.. These stats showing how good he has been around the basket just kind of proves all this as well.. I have zero issues with him taking 1-2 three's a game, taking a perimeter shot towards the end of the shot clock or especially if it's a dripple penetration for an open shot since it kills the offense much of the time if you turn that down. I feel the same for Westbrook with all this as well.
I just hate seeing him have games where he KEEPS bricking 3's or taking deep perimeter shots all game when he has a clear advantage in the post and then also has Bron, Westbrook, Rondo, Monk, THT etc. all looking for him so it's not like he has no help to get him the ball. All he's doing is making those amazing stats shown in the post above become less and less meaningful since he's just settling as one of the worst perimeter shooting players to start this season.
I hope he hits another hot streak towards the end of the season but I don't think it's something we should hold our breathe for. I personally think he's an average shooter at best on the perimeter that had a perfectly timed hot streak in the bubble. He should still shoot from there just limit it especially when you're off and you have a huge mismatch inside.
He's a beast and I don't think any Laker fans are saying "he's not really helping us" (if there is someone saying that then I agree that's comically ridiculous) they just want him to be an actual dominant top 5 player since we can all see it in spurts especially with Bron missing so much time while he's also the only superstar right in his prime so no excuses really. |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Some people get so ungrateful.
To look at
@JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups
And go.. "yeah but.. he's not REALLY helping us..." is as ungrateful as it gets. And no, that's not "spoiled" that's out and out ignoring to keep a narrative. |
since AD is shooting historically low from the 3 and mid range, do people really think Westbrook has nothing to do with AD getting these stats? the pick and roll between Russ and AD has been better than Lebron and AD. |
He is, and yet is still having one of the most efficient years of his career.
The reason he's shooting so much is because Vogel has been asking him to.
| Quote: | | “AD is AD, just a lot of garbage points, a lot of runs to the basket,” Vogel said after the Lakers’ victory over the Rockets. “We’re encouraging him to stay with the 3-point shot and keep shooting those without hesitation. He’s off to a slow start shooting the ball from three, but that’s going to come around from him and he’s gonna have an even bigger night.” |
This is the problem more than anything else. The fact AD has been so efficient despite this speaks volumes about the level of play he's brought this year.
| Halflife wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Some people get so ungrateful.
To look at
@JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups
And go.. "yeah but.. he's not REALLY helping us..." is as ungrateful as it gets. And no, that's not "spoiled" that's out and out ignoring to keep a narrative. |
no one said he doesn't help us. But lets not act like on a night in and night out basis that he's dominant. he's just not. He certainly doesn't give us 100% every minute he's on the court. |
What do you call this then?
Anthony Davis last 12 games
25.3 PPG
9.2 REB
3.4 AST
1.7 STL
2.4 BLK
1.9 TOV
53.3% Field Goal
24.0% Three Point
72.2% Free Throw
His most efficient stretch of the season AND season in general thus far since 2017. That's not dominating? On both ends of the floor? Yeah and shooting 53% from the field despite shooting so poorly from three should speak volumes about how dominant and efficient he's been inside. Why are we suddenly acting like this kind of effort just grows on trees and can be gotten from anyone? I think the narrative of "soft" has become an excuse for people to ignore what he's actually doing and giving us.
And of our "big three" AD is the only one consistently giving effort on the defensive end as well. So there's that too.
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| MJST wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Some people get so ungrateful.
To look at
@JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups
And go.. "yeah but.. he's not REALLY helping us..." is as ungrateful as it gets. And no, that's not "spoiled" that's out and out ignoring to keep a narrative. |
since AD is shooting historically low from the 3 and mid range, do people really think Westbrook has nothing to do with AD getting these stats? the pick and roll between Russ and AD has been better than Lebron and AD. |
He is, and yet is still having one of the most efficient years of his career.
The reason he's shooting so much is because Vogel has been asking him to.
| Quote: | | “AD is AD, just a lot of garbage points, a lot of runs to the basket,” Vogel said after the Lakers’ victory over the Rockets. “We’re encouraging him to stay with the 3-point shot and keep shooting those without hesitation. He’s off to a slow start shooting the ball from three, but that’s going to come around from him and he’s gonna have an even bigger night.” |
This is the problem more than anything else. The fact AD has been so efficient despite this speaks volumes about the level of play he's brought this year.
| Halflife wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Some people get so ungrateful.
To look at
@JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups
And go.. "yeah but.. he's not REALLY helping us..." is as ungrateful as it gets. And no, that's not "spoiled" that's out and out ignoring to keep a narrative. |
no one said he doesn't help us. But lets not act like on a night in and night out basis that he's dominant. he's just not. He certainly doesn't give us 100% every minute he's on the court. |
What do you call this then?
Anthony Davis last 12 games
25.3 PPG
9.2 REB
3.4 AST
1.7 STL
2.4 BLK
1.9 TOV
53.3% Field Goal
24.0% Three Point
72.2% Free Throw
His most efficient stretch of the season AND season in general thus far since 2017. That's not dominating? On both ends of the floor? Yeah and shooting 53% from the field despite shooting so poorly from three should speak volumes about how dominant and efficient he's been inside. Why are we suddenly acting like this kind of effort just grows on trees and can be gotten from anyone? I think the narrative of "soft" has become an excuse for people to ignore what he's actually doing and giving us.
And of our "big three" AD is the only one consistently giving effort on the defensive end as well. So there's that too. |
He is the best player on our team. Half the time if you don’t look at numbers , you wonder what he did. How many games win or lose do you say AD mashed.
He gets numbers Because he’s our 1a, but he certainly doesn’t maul other teams where he clearly has advantage.
90% of the time he could go in low post . Demand ball, spin , slam. |
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| Halflife wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Some people get so ungrateful.
To look at
@JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups
And go.. "yeah but.. he's not REALLY helping us..." is as ungrateful as it gets. And no, that's not "spoiled" that's out and out ignoring to keep a narrative. |
since AD is shooting historically low from the 3 and mid range, do people really think Westbrook has nothing to do with AD getting these stats? the pick and roll between Russ and AD has been better than Lebron and AD. |
He is, and yet is still having one of the most efficient years of his career.
The reason he's shooting so much is because Vogel has been asking him to.
| Quote: | | “AD is AD, just a lot of garbage points, a lot of runs to the basket,” Vogel said after the Lakers’ victory over the Rockets. “We’re encouraging him to stay with the 3-point shot and keep shooting those without hesitation. He’s off to a slow start shooting the ball from three, but that’s going to come around from him and he’s gonna have an even bigger night.” |
This is the problem more than anything else. The fact AD has been so efficient despite this speaks volumes about the level of play he's brought this year.
| Halflife wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Some people get so ungrateful.
To look at
@JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups
And go.. "yeah but.. he's not REALLY helping us..." is as ungrateful as it gets. And no, that's not "spoiled" that's out and out ignoring to keep a narrative. |
no one said he doesn't help us. But lets not act like on a night in and night out basis that he's dominant. he's just not. He certainly doesn't give us 100% every minute he's on the court. |
What do you call this then?
Anthony Davis last 12 games
25.3 PPG
9.2 REB
3.4 AST
1.7 STL
2.4 BLK
1.9 TOV
53.3% Field Goal
24.0% Three Point
72.2% Free Throw
His most efficient stretch of the season AND season in general thus far since 2017. That's not dominating? On both ends of the floor? Yeah and shooting 53% from the field despite shooting so poorly from three should speak volumes about how dominant and efficient he's been inside. Why are we suddenly acting like this kind of effort just grows on trees and can be gotten from anyone? I think the narrative of "soft" has become an excuse for people to ignore what he's actually doing and giving us.
And of our "big three" AD is the only one consistently giving effort on the defensive end as well. So there's that too. |
He is the best player on our team. Half the time if you don’t look at numbers , you wonder what he did. How many games win or lose do you say AD mashed.
He gets numbers Because he’s our 1a, but he certainly doesn’t maul other teams where he clearly has advantage.
90% of the time he could go in low post . Demand ball, spin , slam. |
Yup, this is def. one of those cases where the numbers don't line up to what i'm seeing when I watch a game either.. Dominant is absolutely 100% not a word that describes AD regardless of the neat stats. Still a great player obviously but he has no urgency most of the time and rarely ever takes over any quarters let alone an entire game. Teams throw a double at him and it completely takes him out of the action much of the time which is kind of just sad tbh.. That's not all on AD as the rest of the team and coaching staff could do more as well but i'm not making excuses for AD either. |
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| MJST wrote: | Some people get so ungrateful.
To look at
@JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups
And go.. "yeah but.. he's not REALLY helping us..." is as ungrateful as it gets. And no, that's not "spoiled" that's out and out ignoring to keep a narrative. |
he was suppose to carry us during the regular season. if this is carrying a team straight into lotto...then yikes...
His allergy to playing Center position is also putting this team in imbalance.
if he decides to play center and with all effort then he will eat and be in MVP conversation.
yet here we are |
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Outspoken
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| MJST wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | coldzim wrote: | | Quote: | @JoeyARamirez
Anthony Davis ranks:
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups |
Soft! |
and then you look at our record, and how many had him top 5 to start season and nowhere near there now. AD has always been a solid numbers guy, yet he hasn't been able to push us over the top thus far this year. Especially since he was handed the mantle of leader.
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You sure it's AD's fault that we've been struggling... or is it more to do with the fact that it's hard go get chemistry when LeBron has yet to manage to play more than 3 games in sequence this year? Yes.. LeBron hasn't played more than 3 game stretches this entire season.
And if you want to blame AD for our record or "not being able to take us over the top". what do you think our record would be if AD wasn't
• 1st in points in the paint
• 1st in points as the pick-and-roll roll man
• 2nd in baskets in the restricted area
• 2nd in points off post-ups
• 4th in dunks
• 5th in second-chance points
• 5th in percentage on layups
• 7th in layups
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AD puts up good stats on paper, but has never been a guy that can carry a team to the playoffs. Not since he was a pelican or here. Chemistry has nothing to do with that, but rather he is a beta to an alpha that'll carry this team to the playoffs. Though, if he is put in an alpha position, that team will be a lottery team. |
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AD23
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| If you don't win they're empty stats |
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venturalakersfan
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I give AD a lot of credit for stepping up and not missing games for every bump and bruise he gets. That shows some real growth. With Lebron sidelined so much early this season, Laker fans are seeing what Pelican fans saw.
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RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Halflife
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If AD and bron were true gangstas they would see the staples logo disappear and make sure they would christen new arena with a ring.
Similar to the forum where the spurs won the last game there, clippers won the last game at staples. |
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statyin
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| Nobody should be questioning AD's talent. His heart though.... |
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Kobetan
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| statyin wrote: | | Nobody should be questioning AD's talent. His heart though.... |
Top 5 talent, but not a top 5 player |
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