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Are you happy about Vogel becoming our coach?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:56 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
why don't we go back to play big when teams are clearly attacking our small lineups? at least give it some run with Dwight and AD.


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once rondo came i. the game the ball stopped moving
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:34 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
why don't we go back to play big when teams are clearly attacking our small lineups? at least give it some run with Dwight and AD.

Because DJ is out of the lineup and DH is our only center left when AD is on the bench
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:27 pm    Post subject:

Not saying Vogel is necessarily on the hot seat, but at this point why not just go with what's familiar.

With Bron back, let's go

AB
Baze
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AD
Dwight/DJ

Then let Russ lead a bunch of shooters on the second unit.

What's the harm? At least he's making adjustments, and other FO and players should also respect him for doing what's right, instead of just catering to star players..
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:25 pm    Post subject:

Vogel has his issues, but the downgrade to Fizdale after Vogel gets scapegoated is going to be ginormous.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:12 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Vogel has his issues, but the downgrade to Fizdale after Vogel gets scapegoated is going to be ginormous.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:40 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Vogel has his issues, but the downgrade to Fizdale after Vogel gets scapegoated is going to be ginormous.


Indeed, but I wonder what the buy-in nets. The Lakers are not showing it with Vogel. As posted by Cranjis, they have strong offensive concepts that produce highly efficient results (~116 o-rating). For whatever reason, they get away from them and just play ISO ball to starkly middling success. It sometimes seems like the team doesn't want to succeed under Vogel. Would they keep the same offense in place just commit to it more?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:44 pm    Post subject:

pjiddy wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Vogel has his issues, but the downgrade to Fizdale after Vogel gets scapegoated is going to be ginormous.


Indeed, but I wonder what the buy-in nets. The Lakers are not showing it with Vogel. As posted by Cranjis, they have strong offensive concepts that produce highly efficient results (~116 o-rating). For whatever reason, they get away from them and just play ISO ball to starkly middling success. It sometimes seems like the team doesn't want to succeed under Vogel. Would they keep the same offense in place just commit to it more?

I expect there'd be a standard dead cat bounce, but I can't see Fizdale sustaining it through the playoffs. Heck, I don't think prime Popovich could overcome the structural shortcomings of this roster.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:26 am    Post subject:

Lakers legend Luke Walton is now available as offensive assistant to Vogel:

https://www.nba.com/news/report-sacramento-kings-fire-coach-luke-walton-after-6-11-start
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:13 pm    Post subject:

If lakers don’t beat Detroit tonight… bye bye Frankie
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:48 pm    Post subject:

Nash Vegas wrote:
If lakers don’t beat Detroit tonight… bye bye Frankie

He's done. They've completely checked out on him.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:51 pm    Post subject:

I'm pretty sure, not positive if Vogel is fired, Scott Brooks will replace him.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:54 pm    Post subject:

He won't coach again in Staples.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:55 pm    Post subject:

Not even Popovich could save this team
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:58 pm    Post subject:

Ksig wrote:
Not even Popovich could save this team


You're wrong about that. Lol
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:05 pm    Post subject:

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Ksig wrote:
Not even Popovich could save this team


You're wrong about that. Lol


Thank you. Pop would have this team humming right now compared to this dumpster fire.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:06 pm    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
Ksig wrote:
Not even Popovich could save this team


You're wrong about that. Lol


Thank you. Pop would have this team humming right now compared to this dumpster fire.


Pop the GM would never have constructed this team in the first place.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:06 pm    Post subject:

Ksig wrote:
Not even Popovich could save this team

I agree. Pops best days are gone.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:06 pm    Post subject:

ThePageDude wrote:
2019 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
Ksig wrote:
Not even Popovich could save this team


You're wrong about that. Lol


Thank you. Pop would have this team humming right now compared to this dumpster fire.


Pop the GM would never have constructed this team in the first place.


Maybe. But we're talking whether there's a coach who could make even this roster work.. and obviously there is.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:11 pm    Post subject:

Outspoken wrote:
Ksig wrote:
Not even Popovich could save this team


You're wrong about that. Lol

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:12 pm    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
ThePageDude wrote:
2019 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
Ksig wrote:
Not even Popovich could save this team


You're wrong about that. Lol


Thank you. Pop would have this team humming right now compared to this dumpster fire.


Pop the GM would never have constructed this team in the first place.


Maybe. But we're talking whether there's a coach who could make even this roster work.. and obviously there is.


I don't think it's at all obvious. Unless the standard you're setting is just winning against bottom of the barrel teams like Detroit & Minnesota & OKC - yes Pop could do that, maybe even get the team to play .500 ball overall.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:13 pm    Post subject:

Vogel lives to fight another day.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:48 pm    Post subject:

Stop with the zone experiment and stick with the big lineup!!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:07 pm    Post subject:

Feel for the guy cause the during the roster construction he was probably left in the dark, but this right here is a fireable offense:

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Statmuse: The Lakers are 9-10. They are:

24th in net rating
25th in offensive rating
20th in defensive rating
28th in points allowed
29th in turnovers per game
20th in threes per game

They have trailed by 25+ points in 1/3 of their games this season.


Woulda been 5 straight losses and an 0-4 roadie so far if Detroit hadn’t puked up mom’s spaghetti & shot themselves in the foot after getting the jump on us.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:52 pm    Post subject:

waiting for the announcement any day. unclear if it will improve anything but it can't really get any worse
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:33 am    Post subject:

Fizdale would be worse, I have no doubts about it
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