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BobbyB
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Irving is not worth a 4 year max deal.
Only players im willing to pay max this offseason are Kawhi and Durant.
Irving was exposed against Milwaukee. George Hill and Bledsoe both played better than him. If he wants to come on a non max deal im all for it.
We can't invest heavily in players that have shown they are incapable of playing full seasons healthy |
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AFireInside619
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Has anybody heard what the Rambises think about all of this? |
They hate it. They want Phil as GM, and Kurt as God. |
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SGV-Laker fan
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Has anybody heard what the Rambises think about all of this? |
They hate it. They want Phil as GM, and Kurt as God. |
they hate anything not the "Laker way", meaning superstar in their prime take discounts just to sign here and proudly wear the purple and gold, matter of fact, players should pay the lakers to have the honor of playing on this team. |
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greenfrog
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | not to be pessemistic but there clearly is a war behind the scene between LeBron/Klutch and Jeanie Buss/stubborn old timers. Lue got low balled because he was not the choice of Jeanie Buss for the petty reason of "not giving into LeBron". i can totally see Laker brass give Kyrie a hom hum meeting, basically say "you're not welcome here, this meeting is all for shows". i hope i'm wrong, but from the look of things, this outcome is very possible. |
Well, we basically have casual fans running basketball ops. The type of trolls who think Lebron isn't an all-time great, or worthy of polishing Kobe's sneakers seem to have friends in this front office. It's pathetic, but I guess what you would expect from a casual fan and Laker homer herself in Jeanie.
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greenfrog
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | AFireInside619 wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Has anybody heard what the Rambises think about all of this? |
They hate it. They want Phil as GM, and Kurt as God. |
they hate anything not the "Laker way", meaning superstar in their prime take discounts just to sign here and proudly wear the purple and gold, matter of fact, players should pay the lakers to have the honor of playing on this team. |
"Laker exceptionalism". |
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KeepItRealOrElse
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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from reddit:
Bill Simmons just dropped a bomb on his podcast, no one talking about it
He said an insider told him the lakers backed out making Lue the coach because Kyrie and him clashed and doesn’t want him as the coach and it’s already a done deal kyrie is coming to the lakers. |
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I've always thought Kyrie had the greatest chance of signing here. But the Lakers are so utterly incompetent that they need a huge margin of error in the form of a LeBron-Kawhi tandem. I really hope LeBron manages to convince him. |
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Lakerlover89
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| We have to run every idea by our great leaders Kurt and Linda Rambis! True basketball geniuses to lead us into the future! |
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BobbyB
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | from reddit:
Bill Simmons just dropped a bomb on his podcast, no one talking about it
He said an insider told him the lakers backed out making Lue the coach because Kyrie and him clashed and doesn’t want him as the coach and it’s already a done deal kyrie is coming to the lakers. |
Signing Kyrie to a max deal is a bad decision.
Only FA's worth max are Kawhi and Durant this summer.
Kyrie was outplayed by George hill and Bledsoe this past series.
He hasn't proven he can stay healthy. and we desperately need players who can play both ends of the floor with maximum effort for 82 games.
On a cheaper deal sure Kyrie is a good option. But to tie up our cap space on a long term deal with Kyrie is a huge mistake IMO. |
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crucifixion
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | from reddit:
Bill Simmons just dropped a bomb on his podcast, no one talking about it
He said an insider told him the lakers backed out making Lue the coach because Kyrie and him clashed and doesn’t want him as the coach and it’s already a done deal kyrie is coming to the lakers. |
So hypothetically if we sign Kyrie, can we still trade for AD? |
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bandiger
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| BobbyB wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | from reddit:
Bill Simmons just dropped a bomb on his podcast, no one talking about it
He said an insider told him the lakers backed out making Lue the coach because Kyrie and him clashed and doesn’t want him as the coach and it’s already a done deal kyrie is coming to the lakers. |
Signing Kyrie to a max deal is a bad decision.
Only FA's worth max are Kawhi and Durant this summer.
Kyrie was outplayed by George hill and Bledsoe this past series.
He hasn't proven he can stay healthy. and we desperately need players who can play both ends of the floor with maximum effort for 82 games.
On a cheaper deal sure Kyrie is a good option. But to tie up our cap space on a long term deal with Kyrie is a huge mistake IMO. |
You guys are the worst as if we can get any star player knowing who is the owner and Rambii out there polluting the product. |
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SocalDevin
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Why are you guys still talking about trading for AD??? It's not happening, NO hates us, they toyed with us.. It's not happening.. smh |
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SocalDevin
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Signing Kyrie to a max is just fine so long as we keep Zo. |
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loslakersss
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Prime Lebron and Kyrie had a better supporting cast and still only won 1 series in 4 post seasons against the Warriors (1-8 against the KD version).
Lebron is no longer as good, and the current supporting cast has no playoff experience nor do they defend well. I don't see how the Lebron/Kyrie thing makes sense. |
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BobbyB
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| SocalDevin wrote: | | Signing Kyrie to a max is just fine so long as we keep Zo. |
Great, two injury prone guards. With one taking up one of our max slots. |
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LakerSD
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| We really should be thankful for signing any of Kyrie, Kawhi or Butler at this point. Any other organization would not get a meeting if they were this dysfunctional tbh. |
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BobbyB
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | We really should be thankful for signing any of Kyrie, Kawhi or Butler at this point. Any other organization would not get a meeting if they were this dysfunctional tbh. |
Agree with you on Kawhi.
Butler is a great player but I dont see the fit next to Lebron and zo who will dominate the ball majority of the time. Dont think that's a good max player to sign.
IM gonna say it over and over Irving is not worth max for our team. |
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Rubin
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| SocalDevin wrote: | | Why are you guys still talking about trading for AD??? It's not happening, NO hates us, they toyed with us.. It's not happening.. smh |
David Griffin is in charge now. I imagine he insisted on having autonomy over the AD situation as a prerequisite for taking the job.
He’s on record as being enamored with Ingram and reportedly is not one of these GM’s that has a toxic relationship with the Lakers. He of course has a great relationship with Klutch and LeBron. I think an AD trade is much more in play than it was during the season when it was Demps and Mickey Loomis in charge. |
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SocalDevin
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| BobbyB wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | Signing Kyrie to a max is just fine so long as we keep Zo. |
Great, two injury prone guards. With one taking up one of our max slots. |
Given the current state of affairs are you really balking at the idea of signing Kyrie?? lol |
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SocalDevin
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Rubin wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | Why are you guys still talking about trading for AD??? It's not happening, NO hates us, they toyed with us.. It's not happening.. smh |
David Griffin is in charge now. I imagine he insisted on having autonomy over the AD situation as a prerequisite for taking the job.
He’s on record as being enamored with Ingram and reportedly is not one of these GM’s that has a toxic relationship with the Lakers. He of course has a great relationship with Klutch and LeBron. I think an AD trade is much more in play than it was during the season when it was Demps and Mickey Loomis in charge. |
The owners are the reason why the trade didn't happen.. David isn't an owner.
It's not happening..  |
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BobbyB
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| SocalDevin wrote: | | BobbyB wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | Signing Kyrie to a max is just fine so long as we keep Zo. |
Great, two injury prone guards. With one taking up one of our max slots. |
Given the current state of affairs are you really balking at the idea of signing Kyrie?? lol |
I am yes. Kyrie hasn't proven he can stay healthy. He was exposed against George hill and Eric Bledsoe this past series.
they constantly put him in screens to switch onto players he couldn't guard.
On a max deal Kyrie is a mistake.
If we got him on a cheaper deal which allowed us to target some good role players im all for it. |
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SocalDevin
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| BobbyB wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | BobbyB wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | Signing Kyrie to a max is just fine so long as we keep Zo. |
Great, two injury prone guards. With one taking up one of our max slots. |
Given the current state of affairs are you really balking at the idea of signing Kyrie?? lol |
I am yes. Kyrie hasn't proven he can stay healthy. He was exposed against George hill and Eric Bledsoe this past series.
they constantly put him in screens to switch onto players he couldn't guard.
On a max deal Kyrie is a mistake.
If we got him on a cheaper deal which allowed us to target some good role players im all for it. |
Kyrie isn't signing anywhere for less than max. He simply doesn't have to, even with his warts.
I do understand your concerns though. |
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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If we were smart we would take a step back and realize that the FO might not be as bad as the media is proclaiming to be.
If multiple players want to play for us it tells me that the situation is fixable to some degree. |
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4OnTheFloor
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| loslakersss wrote: | Prime Lebron and Kyrie had a better supporting cast and still only won 1 series in 4 post seasons against the Warriors (1-8 against the KD version).
Lebron is no longer as good, and the current supporting cast has no playoff experience nor do they defend well. I don't see how the Lebron/Kyrie thing makes sense. |
Funny how people seem to forget Kyrie & Love got hurt the 1st finals meeting, but continue on with the hate. |
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BobbyB
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | If we were smart we would take a step back and realize that the FO might not be as bad as the media is proclaiming to be.
If multiple players want to play for us it tells me that the situation is fixable to some degree. |
Media doesn't know anything. The fact that Jeanie doesn't come out and respond to this bs shows she's above it all and doesn't want to acknowledge the crap. |
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