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Aeneas Hunter
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| CandyCanes wrote: | | Why does Phil still have influence if they are not in a relationship anymore? |
Did you really just write that? You really need to stop and reflect on this.
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | CabinCreek44 wrote: | When it comes to the media, Jeanie will never be held to account. She is untouchable due to her gender. Any reporter/writer who takes her to task publicly might be labeled a sexist and their career could suffer accordingly.
Jeanie is an educated person, with a business major from USC. Her achilles heel is her relationship with the Rambii, which to date has not seemed to net much for the organization. |
I agree with the first part. A lot of people in the media seem to be afraid of criticizing Jeanie. If you say that she's a bad owner who lacks the skills to run the team, you run the risk of being labeled sexist, even if she is in fact a bad owner who lacks the skills to run the team.
This is not to say that no one ever views Jeanie through a sexist lens. In a lot of ways, she encourages it. Heck, her Twitter avatar is still a naked picture with two basketballs over her breasts. At this point, however, she has an extended history of performance as de facto owner since she ousted her brother from the basketball side. Her gender should not be a defense against criticism of her actual performance.
I have issues with the second part of what you said. So she has a degree in business from USC. Well, so do a lot of people who are not qualified to run a basketball team. Other than a handful of businesses that were set up for her by Dr. Buss, she has no independent experience. There have always been people who have touted her as a successful businessperson. People make sweeping statements about how she has been great at running the business side of the Lakers. I've never seen any actual evidence of this. As far as I can tell, she's just as mediocre as Jim.
As for the Rambii being her Achilles heel, no, her Achilles heel is herself. She has not been willing to bring in a strong leader to take charge of the front office. She seems to have trust issues, which is why she brought in Magic and Pelinka (via Kobe), and also why it appears that Phil Jackson still has influence even though he has proven himself to be incompetent at running a team in the front office. The Rambii are filling a void, but it's a void created by Jeanie. |
Excellent post, I don't disagree with anything you said. |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | CabinCreek44 wrote: | When it comes to the media, Jeanie will never be held to account. She is untouchable due to her gender. Any reporter/writer who takes her to task publicly might be labeled a sexist and their career could suffer accordingly.
Jeanie is an educated person, with a business major from USC. Her achilles heel is her relationship with the Rambii, which to date has not seemed to net much for the organization. |
I agree with the first part. A lot of people in the media seem to be afraid of criticizing Jeanie. If you say that she's a bad owner who lacks the skills to run the team, you run the risk of being labeled sexist, even if she is in fact a bad owner who lacks the skills to run the team.
This is not to say that no one ever views Jeanie through a sexist lens. In a lot of ways, she encourages it. Heck, her Twitter avatar is still a naked picture with two basketballs over her breasts. At this point, however, she has an extended history of performance as de facto owner since she ousted her brother from the basketball side. Her gender should not be a defense against criticism of her actual performance.
I have issues with the second part of what you said. So she has a degree in business from USC. Well, so do a lot of people who are not qualified to run a basketball team. Other than a handful of businesses that were set up for her by Dr. Buss, she has no independent experience. There have always been people who have touted her as a successful businessperson. People make sweeping statements about how she has been great at running the business side of the Lakers. I've never seen any actual evidence of this. As far as I can tell, she's just as mediocre as Jim.
As for the Rambii being her Achilles heel, no, her Achilles heel is herself. She has not been willing to bring in a strong leader to take charge of the front office. She seems to have trust issues, which is why she brought in Magic and Pelinka (via Kobe), and also why it appears that Phil Jackson still has influence even though he has proven himself to be incompetent at running a team in the front office. The Rambii are filling a void, but it's a void created by Jeanie. |
When times were good, her stuff was easy to do
* Marketing
* Promotions
* Tickets
* etc
Mitch & Jim made a few mistakes, but they were right about the need to restock on assets and thus the lean years with high draft picks that made Jeanie's job more difficult.
Things went well when LeBron joined and they had assets to trade for Davis, but there appears to be another Wave down just over the horizon.
I don't know if they (Jeanie, Rambis etc) know what is lurking over the horizon. Whenever the Wave down happens, it won't be possible to blame it on Mitch & Jim.
Trying to place blame on the coaching staff shows that there is recognition that things aren't right.
1. It is possible they are oblivious to the weakness in the FO.
2. It is possible they do know that things aren't right in the FO, but will blame the coaching staff to buy some time in hopes that a miracle will happen to save them.
For now, I will go with #1 in that they are unable to recognize (or unwilling) to recognize that they are most if not all of the problem. |
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | J.C. Smith wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | Kurt failed miserably as a coach. He has never really accomplished anything in his life |
I'm willing to bet that the four time NBA champion has accomplished much more in his life, than you have in yours... |
Bingo. I'm not thrilled with the guy, either, but he had a 13 year NBA playing career - half of it as a non-Laker - and made millions of dollars. He accomplished more by age 35 than 99% of the people on Earth do in a lifetime. |
That is definitely a shallow view of things. If you think that a basketball career and making money are among life’s great accomplishments then you aim for the low hanging fruit. |
Well, everyone cannot win a Nobel Prize or be elected President of the United States, so I'd list a 13 year playing career and 40 years of being paid millions for your involvement in an endeavor that you love as, indeed, being a great accomplishment!
When did you win your Nobel, anyway? |
This is the order in which Ventura ranks life accomplishments:
1. Putting up millions of LG posts
2. Talking about NBA players on the Internet
3. Being an NBA player
4. Making millions of dollars
5. Pretending that reading the same news as everyone else gives you unique information that no one else posses
6. Winning a Nobel Prize
7. Resolutely ignoring any posts that point out thinking flaws or factual errors in your posts
8. Resolutely working to solve the world's hunger problems. |
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Maybe I am in the minority here but I think Jeanie Buss is an imbecile. I have never thought of her as all that mighty and bright. She is just continuing to milk her daddy’s legacy.
She focuses her time on stupid sh*t instead of hiring the right people to run this franchise.
I am not a Pelinka hater but is he really the person who should be running decisions? He was a former agent that wasn’t well liked from what I had read.
Who else is in the Lakers FO? Just the Rambis idiot couple?
Someone needs to clean this up and hire basketball people. This is when I would love to see Pat Riley, Jerry West or folks like that, running things. Even Jerry’s son Ryan is likely smarter than Jeanie, Rambis’ and Rob combined.
I still watch games but I am not happy with the team.
Like Monk, Reaves, Johnson…..
That’s about it…. |
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| Jeanie really gave this much power to her swinger friends.... |
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2013-2018 here we come again!  |
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| lakersfever714 wrote: |
2013-2018 here we come again! |
If we're so lucky - depending if Jesse Buss still has authority on making picks if the FO stays in place. Not to mention, Ryan West is no longer with the org either.
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Aeneas Hunter
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| anth2000 wrote: | | Maybe I am in the minority here but I think Jeanie Buss is an imbecile. |
Imbecile is too strong. Mediocre is closer to the mark. She seems to have trust issues, or maybe she is just intoxicated by Lakers Exceptionalism. But she’s not an imbecile.
Here’s a depressing thought: The bubble title might be a curse in the long run. It validates the way that the Lakers are being run. Jeanie Buss won a title. Rob Pelinka won a title. Heck, the Rambii won a title. There are people who think that the bubble title validates the Lebron era. That’s a respectable opinion for fans. But the front office will feel validated, too. That’s a problem, because there isn’t another Lebron waiting to join the team.
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | Why does Phil still have influence if they are not in a relationship anymore? |
Did you really just write that? You really need to stop and reflect on this. |
If Phil has that Jerry West energy, I would expect him to make that grand return post LBJ "posse"
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| Imbecile is far to strong, mediocre is too kind. Jeanie deliberately hurt the Lakers chances with well timed media leaks when her brother was running the team. She has insulated herself with loyalists in the front office. As things turn bad, she has allowed her GM to point the finger at James (strategically foolish given his clout) and sought council from Magic (even worse, especially given he is aligned with the group that bought Anshultz' share with FRR). |
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Linda Rambis
Executive Director of Special Projects of the Los Angeles Lakers since 2018-2019 (Promoted).
Special Projects Associate of the Los Angeles Lakers from 2014-2015 (Hired) to 2017-2018 (Promoted).
Special projects = an opportunist ? a leech ? What does a "special projects" person do ? |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| When will someone inform Kurt Rambis that his job isn’t safe? Oh the day. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | | Maybe I am in the minority here but I think Jeanie Buss is an imbecile. |
Imbecile is too strong. Mediocre is closer to the mark. She seems to have trust issues, or maybe she is just intoxicated by Lakers Exceptionalism. But she’s not an imbecile.
Here’s a depressing thought: The bubble title might be a curse in the long run. It validates the way that the Lakers are being run. Jeanie Buss won a title. Rob Pelinka won a title. Heck, the Rambii won a title. There are people who think that the bubble title validates the Lebron era. That’s a respectable opinion for fans. But the front office will feel validated, too. That’s a problem, because there isn’t another Lebron waiting to join the team. |
Fair take.
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When it comes to ass-et management, this ain’t it brah..
| Quote: | Rambis followed Jackson to New York, where he served as interim coach in 2016, going 9-19, and perhaps more notably, required the Knicks to issue a statement claiming that the porn tweets he liked from his verified account were the result of being hacked, leading to what I’m comfortable saying are the funniest two paragraphs in the history of the Sporting News:
“Kurt did not like those items on his Twitter page and we worked with Twitter to make sure the situation did not happen again,” (Knicks spokesman Jonathan) Supranowitz said.
The likes are no longer there, but the coach does still follow @GreatAssDaily on the social media outlet. Perhaps before using the classic “I was hacked” defense, he should have gone ahead and made sure he unfollowed that account.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/kurt-rambis-twitter-like-knicks-statement/11apirqeueqgm1o38y28do1sl6
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Exhibit #3169 that our current FO really puts the ass in asset management. Yikes!
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| Snipes wrote: | | When will someone inform Kurt Rambis that his job isn’t safe? Oh the day. |
i can't wait for that day either. i worked hard for everything in my life, i just hate seeing people unqualified get to top positions by arse kissing and via connections, and have the nerve to tell real professional coaches to watch their backs. |
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| paymonM wrote: | Linda Rambis
Executive Director of Special Projects of the Los Angeles Lakers since 2018-2019 (Promoted).
Special Projects Associate of the Los Angeles Lakers from 2014-2015 (Hired) to 2017-2018 (Promoted).
Special projects = an opportunist ? a leech ? What does a "special projects" person do ? |
"Special projects" usually means that someone does whatever needs to be done at a particular time, as opposed to having fixed responsibilities. Basically, she's a Friend of Jeanie. There's nothing sinister about it.
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | paymonM wrote: | Linda Rambis
Executive Director of Special Projects of the Los Angeles Lakers since 2018-2019 (Promoted).
Special Projects Associate of the Los Angeles Lakers from 2014-2015 (Hired) to 2017-2018 (Promoted).
Special projects = an opportunist ? a leech ? What does a "special projects" person do ? |
"Special projects" usually means that someone does whatever needs to be done at a particular time, as opposed to having fixed responsibilities. Basically, she's a Friend of Jeanie. There's nothing sinister about it. |
Ya know, special projects,,,,,, like Nellie from The Office…. Linda can sit in Andy’s office…. |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | paymonM wrote: | Linda Rambis
Executive Director of Special Projects of the Los Angeles Lakers since 2018-2019 (Promoted).
Special Projects Associate of the Los Angeles Lakers from 2014-2015 (Hired) to 2017-2018 (Promoted).
Special projects = an opportunist ? a leech ? What does a "special projects" person do ? |
"Special projects" usually means that someone does whatever needs to be done at a particular time, as opposed to having fixed responsibilities. Basically, she's a Friend of Jeanie. There's nothing sinister about it. |
a person who makes decisions, and is not accountable |
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| paymonM wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | paymonM wrote: | Linda Rambis
Executive Director of Special Projects of the Los Angeles Lakers since 2018-2019 (Promoted).
Special Projects Associate of the Los Angeles Lakers from 2014-2015 (Hired) to 2017-2018 (Promoted).
Special projects = an opportunist ? a leech ? What does a "special projects" person do ? |
"Special projects" usually means that someone does whatever needs to be done at a particular time, as opposed to having fixed responsibilities. Basically, she's a Friend of Jeanie. There's nothing sinister about it. |
a person who makes decisions, and is not accountable |
She's accountable to Jeanie. In my experience, this is common in smaller, closely held businesses. Hank, the owner of the business, has Joe Bob to take care of stuff that Hank doesn't want to mess with.
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | | When will someone inform Kurt Rambis that his job isn’t safe? Oh the day. |
i can't wait for that day either. i worked hard for everything in my life, i just hate seeing people unqualified get to top positions by arse kissing and via connections, and have the nerve to tell real professional coaches to watch their backs. |
100% agreed. This is what’s pissed me off forever about Kurt. Obviously we don’t know for sure and maybe we’re wrong but he always came across as a guy who got everything for all the wrong reasons. He’s failed at literally every level except being an assistant so it makes me think we are right about him. |
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| I was not a fan of the Jim Buss era but this could get worse. |
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