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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:01 pm    Post subject:

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And trading the stars is what you've been clamoring for.


I'm firmly in the keep the stars and sign minimum free agents camp, rebuild in 2023 with cap space and draft picks.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:03 pm    Post subject:

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Baron Von Humongous wrote:

Got any better ideas?


Build through free agency

2022 Free Agents

28 year old 6'11" C Jusuf Nurkic (#12 rank C) * Klutch discount

29 year old 6'3" G Dennis Schroder (#37 rank PG) ** Minimum contract
28 year old 6'4" G Gary Harris (#49 rank SG) ** Minimum contract
23 year old 6'6" G Jarrett Culver (#110 rank SG) ** Minimum contract
25 year old 6'8" G/F Josh Jackson (#71 rank SF) ** Minimum contract
23 year old 6'6" F Troy Brown Jr (#73 rank SF) ** Minimum contract
25 year old 6'5" F Derrick Jones Jr (#69 rank PF) ** Minimum contract
29 year old 7'0" F/C Frank Kaminsky (#25 rank PF) ** Minimum contract
24 year old 7'0" C Isaiah Hartenstein (#34 rank C) ** Minimum contract
29 year old 6'10" C Andre Drummond (#25 rank C) ** Minimum contract

Something like this

6'3" G Russell Westbrook, 6'3" G Dennis Schroder, 6'2" G Kendrick Nunn
6'4" G/F Talen Horton Tucker, 6'4" G Gary Harris, 6'5" G/F Austin Reaves
6'9" F Lebron James, 6'8" G/F Josh Jackson, 6'6" F Stanley Johnson
6'10" F/C Anthony Davis, 7'0" F/C Frank Kaminsky, 6'9" F/C Wenyen Gabrial
6'11" C Jusuf Nurkic, 6'10" C Andre Drummond, 7'0" C Isaiah Hartenstein


The key will be Talen's development

They have cap space for free agents and draft picks for depth next summer
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:06 pm    Post subject:

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Bonus with Kevin Knox

Great fit with Lebron

Very good corner 3 shooter


Low risk, high reward.

No one wants to talk about Kevin Knox, because we need to trade away picks for Cam Reddish!
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:07 pm    Post subject:

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pjiddy wrote:

And trading the stars is what you've been clamoring for.


I'm firmly in the keep the stars and sign minimum free agents camp, rebuild in 2023 with cap space and draft picks.


The problem with building around AD is that assuming we had a decent team, we still wouldn't be very confident of winning it all because the odds of him getting injured is quite high.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:10 pm    Post subject:

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The problem with building around AD is that assuming we had a decent team, we still wouldn't be very confident of winning it all because the odds of him getting injured is quite high.


I'm already anticipating Anthony leaving in 2025. That's why my agenda is to keep those first round picks.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:12 pm    Post subject:

JUST-MING wrote:
JUST-MING wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:

Got any better ideas?


Build through free agency

2022 Free Agents

28 year old 6'11" C Jusuf Nurkic (#12 rank C) * Klutch discount

29 year old 6'3" G Dennis Schroder (#37 rank PG) ** Minimum contract
28 year old 6'4" G Gary Harris (#49 rank SG) ** Minimum contract
23 year old 6'6" G Jarrett Culver (#110 rank SG) ** Minimum contract
25 year old 6'8" G/F Josh Jackson (#71 rank SF) ** Minimum contract
23 year old 6'6" F Troy Brown Jr (#73 rank SF) ** Minimum contract
25 year old 6'5" F Derrick Jones Jr (#69 rank PF) ** Minimum contract
29 year old 7'0" F/C Frank Kaminsky (#25 rank PF) ** Minimum contract
24 year old 7'0" C Isaiah Hartenstein (#34 rank C) ** Minimum contract
29 year old 6'10" C Andre Drummond (#25 rank C) ** Minimum contract

Something like this

6'3" G Russell Westbrook, 6'3" G Dennis Schroder, 6'2" G Kendrick Nunn
6'4" G/F Talen Horton Tucker, 6'4" G Gary Harris, 6'5" G/F Austin Reaves
6'9" F Lebron James, 6'8" G/F Josh Jackson, 6'6" F Stanley Johnson
6'10" F/C Anthony Davis, 7'0" F/C Frank Kaminsky, 6'9" F/C Wenyen Gabrial
6'11" C Jusuf Nurkic, 6'10" C Andre Drummond, 7'0" C Isaiah Hartenstein


The key will be Talen's development

They have cap space for free agents and draft picks for depth next summer


I don't see Nurkic, Schroeder, and Harris being available for the salaries you are hoping for.

We have never gotten a "Klutch discount." Just the opposite in fact.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:13 pm    Post subject:

I'm more worried about what we do with AD than Westbrick this season. It will set the tone for years to come. I'm no longer a fan of building a team of superstars but I'd rather spread it out. I'd prefer a deep team with a lot of young, good players on and off the bench. Not putting all our eggs in one or two baskets.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:13 pm    Post subject:

JUST-MING wrote:
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Bonus with Kevin Knox

Great fit with Lebron

Very good corner 3 shooter


Low risk, high reward.

No one wants to talk about Kevin Knox, because we need to trade away picks for Cam Reddish!


Knox last year:
Catch and shoot 3s: 29.2%
Wide open 3s: 31.3%
Left corner 3: 1-6 16.7%
Right corner 3: 6-12 50%

I guess good right corner 3 point shooter based on 12 shots?
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:14 pm    Post subject:

JUST-MING wrote:
lakersfever714 wrote:

The problem with building around AD is that assuming we had a decent team, we still wouldn't be very confident of winning it all because the odds of him getting injured is quite high.


I'm already anticipating Anthony leaving in 2025. That's why my agenda is to keep those first round picks.


And you don't want to trade him now to get some draft picks back? You want to keep him just for a chance at championship in 2023 and 2024?


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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:14 pm    Post subject:

I'm hopeful they could leverage the 2023 cap space to get Nurkic on a cheap 1 year deal.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:24 pm    Post subject:

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I'm hopeful they could leverage the 2023 cap space to get Nurkic on a cheap 1 year deal.


Nurkic is the best free agent center -- he'll generate interest if he hits the market. My guess is he'll sign a multiple year contract with Portland starting at $15 million or so.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:30 pm    Post subject:

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I guess good right corner 3 point shooter based on 12 shots?


Based on the footage of Kevin Knox. He made 4 corner 3's in the video I linked.

He played 15 minutes in only 6 games last year.

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:40 pm    Post subject:

Would the Blazers have interest in a Josh Hart for THT swap?
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:40 pm    Post subject:

JUST-MING wrote:
JUST-MING wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:

Got any better ideas?


Build through free agency

2022 Free Agents

28 year old 6'11" C Jusuf Nurkic (#12 rank C) * Klutch discount

29 year old 6'3" G Dennis Schroder (#37 rank PG) ** Minimum contract
28 year old 6'4" G Gary Harris (#49 rank SG) ** Minimum contract
23 year old 6'6" G Jarrett Culver (#110 rank SG) ** Minimum contract
25 year old 6'8" G/F Josh Jackson (#71 rank SF) ** Minimum contract
23 year old 6'6" F Troy Brown Jr (#73 rank SF) ** Minimum contract
25 year old 6'5" F Derrick Jones Jr (#69 rank PF) ** Minimum contract
29 year old 7'0" F/C Frank Kaminsky (#25 rank PF) ** Minimum contract
24 year old 7'0" C Isaiah Hartenstein (#34 rank C) ** Minimum contract
29 year old 6'10" C Andre Drummond (#25 rank C) ** Minimum contract

Something like this

6'3" G Russell Westbrook, 6'3" G Dennis Schroder, 6'2" G Kendrick Nunn
6'4" G/F Talen Horton Tucker, 6'4" G Gary Harris, 6'5" G/F Austin Reaves
6'9" F Lebron James, 6'8" G/F Josh Jackson, 6'6" F Stanley Johnson
6'10" F/C Anthony Davis, 7'0" F/C Frank Kaminsky, 6'9" F/C Wenyen Gabrial
6'11" C Jusuf Nurkic, 6'10" C Andre Drummond, 7'0" C Isaiah Hartenstein


The key will be Talen's development

They have cap space for free agents and draft picks for depth next summer


So you want to start 3 guys who need ball in their hands with no shooting whatsoever. to make matters worse you have a big immovable object in Nurkic at center

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:44 pm    Post subject:

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Would the Blazers have interest in a Josh Hart for THT swap?


Hell to the nah. They laugh you off the phone but first thank you for tossing him in the trade to NO so he could end up in Portland.


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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 3:45 pm    Post subject:

Josh Hart was the #8 ranked small forward last year. Brandon Ingram was #6.

Why would Portland do that?
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 4:26 pm    Post subject:

Dallas is an interesting team to look at... Before they even start next season, they will already in for $151m total team salary. With Brunson becoming a free agent... They are in a pickle jar with everything with no room on improving that roster at all. A lot of those guys are not good enough to package for another allstar to pair up with Luka... So they most likely not even make the WCF next season and will run in the same issue in 2023.

Notable players:
Hardaway JR - 18m (3yrs)
Bertans - $16m (3yrs)
Dinwiddie - $18.5m (2yrs)
Bullock - $10m (2yrs)
Finney-Smith - $$14m (4yrs)

Westbrook for Hardaway/Bertans/Bullock

Dallas will have significant capspace to improve in 2023 to bring in a #2 guy... They can afford to resign Brunson. They also get their #2 guy in Westbrook. If it does not work out, they most likely end up with a lotto pick. Then Westbrook deal expires anyways. Their roster is young enough that they can afford a throw away season. They can start fresh in 2023 along with a lotto pick.

Why Lakers? They have a different timeline and get the shooters they need. Lakers will only still have about $90m salary in 2023. Some of those contracts are pretty moveable at that time if they decide to clear some more capspace in 2023 or 2024.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 5:25 pm    Post subject:

I don't want to make Dallas better. If they get cap space, they will land Jokic.

Bertans has the worst contract in basketball.

We already tried Bullock once, even traded a pick for him. It didn't work out.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 6:17 pm    Post subject:

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Now we're throwing away draft picks for a head coach and general manager?



Picks? Hopefully that coach can hit the 3; LOL
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 6:56 pm    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
Dallas is an interesting team to look at... Before they even start next season, they will already in for $151m total team salary. With Brunson becoming a free agent... They are in a pickle jar with everything with no room on improving that roster at all. A lot of those guys are not good enough to package for another allstar to pair up with Luka... So they most likely not even make the WCF next season and will run in the same issue in 2023.

Notable players:
Hardaway JR - 18m (3yrs)
Bertans - $16m (3yrs)
Dinwiddie - $18.5m (2yrs)
Bullock - $10m (2yrs)
Finney-Smith - $$14m (4yrs)

Westbrook for Hardaway/Bertans/Bullock

Dallas will have significant capspace to improve in 2023 to bring in a #2 guy... They can afford to resign Brunson. They also get their #2 guy in Westbrook. If it does not work out, they most likely end up with a lotto pick. Then Westbrook deal expires anyways. Their roster is young enough that they can afford a throw away season. They can start fresh in 2023 along with a lotto pick.

Why Lakers? They have a different timeline and get the shooters they need. Lakers will only still have about $90m salary in 2023. Some of those contracts are pretty moveable at that time if they decide to clear some more capspace in 2023 or 2024.


Lebron will be eating up $45 in cap space in 2023.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 7:50 pm    Post subject:

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Bertans has the worst contract in basketball.


really? he looks like eddie jones right here, lol

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/axEyfIc2SvM
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 7:59 pm    Post subject:

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Bonus with Kevin Knox

Great fit with Lebron

Very good corner 3 shooter


Low risk, high reward.

No one wants to talk about Kevin Knox, because we need to trade away picks for Cam Reddish!


I live in NY. Ok, how can I put this nicely………KEVIN KNOX IS A BUM!
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 8:12 pm    Post subject:

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Would the Blazers have interest in a Josh Hart for THT swap?


No.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 8:13 pm    Post subject:

The Hawks could be a team where Russ could excel. They have one of the best shooters in Trae Young along w/Kevin Huerter.

I know the Hawks are looking to trade either Collins or Capela.

Maybe a Russ for Capela + Gallinari deal might be of interest to ATL.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2022 8:14 pm    Post subject:

Harlemlakerfan wrote:
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Bonus with Kevin Knox

Great fit with Lebron

Very good corner 3 shooter


Low risk, high reward.

No one wants to talk about Kevin Knox, because we need to trade away picks for Cam Reddish!


I live in NY. Ok, how can I put this nicely………KEVIN KNOX IS A BUM!


Well, yeah. He's a failed lottery pick who doesn't shoot well. His career TS% is .480. He matches his poor shooting with even worse defense. He'll have a hard time getting the vet min this summer. He sounds like a perfect fit for us.
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