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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | miggz23 wrote: | LakerSD wrote: | Can’t believe we lost to this OKC team twice.
Down 141-67 to Memphis. |
Finished at 152-79... Broke the record of 68 points. |
And Memphis didn't have Ja Morant. |
Memphis scoring 152 without Ja is like scoring 200 points. Smh, those OKC losses really sting. Don’t care if SGA or Giddey didn’t play. |
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Swagron12 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:40 am Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | Always love these narratives.
Lakers had trash players in Kuzma, KCP and Harrell but now that they are wizards, Washington with “#1 offseason” by some NBA TV employee |
Always an anti Laker sentiment out there. Add Caruso to the 3 above and remember they s*** the bed with a first round exit last year. |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Washington had a good offseason. They also changed head coaches.
They aquired Kuzma, KCP, Spencer Diwindie and Trez. That's 4 starting level players around Beal, and they still have an injured Thomas Bryant to bring back, and have some other pieces.
Depth wins you RS games. It's an old saying. The stars win you the titles.
Not saying our stars are going to win us anything this year, but they have proven they can win a title and WB has proven he can help lead a team to the NBA Finals. It is what it is. We traded away depth for a third star. Our depth was way better last year, but we have a 3rd weapon we have never had in the playoffs. In particular against the Suns, the same depth was useless to the point where as soon as AD didn't play like a monster, we lost games badly. |
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activeverb Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:12 am Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | Washington had a good offseason. They also changed head coaches. |
Smoke and mirrors. They've had a soft schedule to begin the season. They are a mediocre team -- 14th on defense, 18th on offense, only a 0.5 point winning differentiation.
We'll see them start to go down in the standings. |
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:10 am Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Washington had a good offseason. They also changed head coaches. |
Smoke and mirrors. They've had a soft schedule to begin the season. They are a mediocre team -- 14th on defense, 18th on offense, only a 0.5 point winning differentiation.
We'll see them start to go down in the standings. |
Probably. They've got a decent shot at making the playoffs as a top six seed. For the Wizards in recent years, that's a pretty good result. _________________ Internet Argument Resolved |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:26 am Post subject: |
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activeverb wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Washington had a good offseason. They also changed head coaches. |
Smoke and mirrors. They've had a soft schedule to begin the season. They are a mediocre team -- 14th on defense, 18th on offense, only a 0.5 point winning differentiation.
We'll see them start to go down in the standings. |
I never said they would stay 2nd. I said they did in fact have a good offseason. If you were to trade Westbrook, getting the pieces they got was solid. Added Spencer. New coach seems better than Brooks.
So overall, I think they had a good offseason. If they make the playoffs, that's a solid finish for them. Teams like Washington aren't held to the standards the Lakers are. |
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iimarshon Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Who we hoping gets bought out?
Thad Young is the (unrealistic) dream yeah?
I hope we trade for Justin Holiday or someone like that whos making 4-6m range. _________________ 24 |
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activeverb Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:28 am Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | activeverb wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Washington had a good offseason. They also changed head coaches. |
Smoke and mirrors. They've had a soft schedule to begin the season. They are a mediocre team -- 14th on defense, 18th on offense, only a 0.5 point winning differentiation.
We'll see them start to go down in the standings. |
I never said they would stay 2nd. I said they did in fact have a good offseason. If you were to trade Westbrook, getting the pieces they got was solid. Added Spencer. New coach seems better than Brooks.
So overall, I think they had a good offseason. If they make the playoffs, that's a solid finish for them. Teams like Washington aren't held to the standards the Lakers are. |
Oh sure, they had a decent offseason. But unless you are a Washington fan, it's kind of a "who cares?" They got rid of Westbrook, added some new pieces, and positioned themselves to be first-round playoff fodder.
If instead of making the Westbrook deal with us, they had made an equivalent deal with another team, no one on LG would be paying any attention to or talking about them. |
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:38 am Post subject: |
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iimarshon wrote: | Who we hoping gets bought out?
Thad Young is the (unrealistic) dream yeah?
I hope we trade for Justin Holiday or someone like that whos making 4-6m range. |
We got Kendrick Nunn to fill that. Problem is he hasn't been on the court. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:20 am Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | activeverb wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Washington had a good offseason. They also changed head coaches. |
Smoke and mirrors. They've had a soft schedule to begin the season. They are a mediocre team -- 14th on defense, 18th on offense, only a 0.5 point winning differentiation.
We'll see them start to go down in the standings. |
I never said they would stay 2nd. I said they did in fact have a good offseason. If you were to trade Westbrook, getting the pieces they got was solid. Added Spencer. New coach seems better than Brooks.
So overall, I think they had a good offseason. If they make the playoffs, that's a solid finish for them. Teams like Washington aren't held to the standards the Lakers are. |
Isometric comparisons between the Lakers and Wiz, as if the Lakers finishing with a better record means they "won" the Westbrook trade is so strange. Do people take into account that only one of those teams has Lebron James and Davis?
As Wolfpack points out, the Wizards have improved their team from last year. That's a win for them. Their defensive and offensive rankings, even if "mediocre," are ahead of last year. They're also implementing several new players and new schemes with a new coach. When the Lakers do this, despite having the same two stars, it's a "work in progress" and will get better, but the Wizards will get worse since they've benefited from an "easy schedule"--which is hilarious considering the Lakers own disparity in SOS behind them and in front of them. |
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:21 am Post subject: |
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iimarshon wrote: | Who we hoping gets bought out?
Thad Young is the (unrealistic) dream yeah?
I hope we trade for Justin Holiday or someone like that whos making 4-6m range. |
Tristan Thompson |
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vasashi17+ Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Well we knew his time was all but up when the allegations came out.
Some interesting “times” ahead in Portland.
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Quote: | Chris Haynes
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Yahoo Sources: With the Portland Trail Blazers firing general manager Neil Olshey, two candidates expected to receive strong consideration are Chicago Bulls GM Marc Eversley and New York Knicks GM Scott Perry.
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Quote: | Chris Mannix: Among the names sure to surface in the Blazers search for a new GM: Danny Ainge. Ainge is an Oregon native who played for the Blazers in the early 90’s. – via Twitter SIChrisMannix
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Now if only we had some draft capital to spare from the great AD purge of ‘19. _________________ Not familiar with the salary cap/CBA rules & how it impacts our Lakers?
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BynumForThree Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:02 am Post subject: |
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pjiddy wrote: | iimarshon wrote: | Who we hoping gets bought out?
Thad Young is the (unrealistic) dream yeah?
I hope we trade for Justin Holiday or someone like that whos making 4-6m range. |
Tristan Thompson |
Another center who can’t shoot. Is that you Pelinka? _________________ If Brandon Knight were to come out, I would take him number 1 in the draft. - Magic Johnson Mar 27, 2011
For all of you out there questioning Jimmer Fredette of BYU, he is the real deal. - Magic Johnson Mar 20, 2011 |
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:08 am Post subject: |
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vasashi17+ wrote: | Well we knew his time was all but up when the allegations came out.
Some interesting “times” ahead in Portland.
https://sportsblogit.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/dame-time-gif.gif
Quote: | Chris Haynes
@ChrisBHaynes
Yahoo Sources: With the Portland Trail Blazers firing general manager Neil Olshey, two candidates expected to receive strong consideration are Chicago Bulls GM Marc Eversley and New York Knicks GM Scott Perry.
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Quote: | Chris Mannix: Among the names sure to surface in the Blazers search for a new GM: Danny Ainge. Ainge is an Oregon native who played for the Blazers in the early 90’s. – via Twitter SIChrisMannix
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Now if only we had some draft capital to skate from the great AD purge of ‘19. |
Ainge loves draft picks so he will want a pick haul if he decides to trade Lillard which means we probably can’t get him if we wanted to. |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:35 am Post subject: |
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BynumForThree wrote: | pjiddy wrote: | iimarshon wrote: | Who we hoping gets bought out?
Thad Young is the (unrealistic) dream yeah?
I hope we trade for Justin Holiday or someone like that whos making 4-6m range. |
Tristan Thompson |
Another center who can’t shoot. Is that you Pelinka? |
but he can defend and finish. much better than DAJ at current stage. |
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gng930 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | vasashi17+ wrote: | Well we knew his time was all but up when the allegations came out.
Some interesting “times” ahead in Portland.
https://sportsblogit.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/dame-time-gif.gif
Quote: | Chris Haynes
@ChrisBHaynes
Yahoo Sources: With the Portland Trail Blazers firing general manager Neil Olshey, two candidates expected to receive strong consideration are Chicago Bulls GM Marc Eversley and New York Knicks GM Scott Perry.
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Also there is another candidate…
Quote: | Chris Mannix: Among the names sure to surface in the Blazers search for a new GM: Danny Ainge. Ainge is an Oregon native who played for the Blazers in the early 90’s. – via Twitter SIChrisMannix
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Now if only we had some draft capital to skate from the great AD purge of ‘19. |
Ainge loves draft picks so he will want a pick haul if he decides to trade Lillard which means we probably can’t get him if we wanted to. |
Do we really think draft picks will be the deal breaker in this scenario? We're talking about Danny Ainge. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit) |
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gng930 Franchise Player
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | If say the Lakers are struggling to find there niche in the next few months and Westbrook can’t click with AD and LeBron and you can get Simmons + a piece like Green then you could do that. |
This is where the Morey and Simmons game of attrition might actually go in our favor. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit) |
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RashardA Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | Washington had a good offseason. They also changed head coaches.
They aquired Kuzma, KCP, Spencer Diwindie and Trez. That's 4 starting level players around Beal, and they still have an injured Thomas Bryant to bring back, and have some other pieces.
Depth wins you RS games. It's an old saying. The stars win you the titles.
Not saying our stars are going to win us anything this year, but they have proven they can win a title and WB has proven he can help lead a team to the NBA Finals. It is what it is. We traded away depth for a third star. Our depth was way better last year, but we have a 3rd weapon we have never had in the playoffs. In particular against the Suns, the same depth was useless to the point where as soon as AD didn't play like a monster, we lost games badly. |
Rui and T. Bryant still have not played.
The Wizards got a squad & i expect they will make some noise in the playoffs. _________________ Everyting negative - pressure, challenges - is all an opportunity for me to rise.
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SGV-Laker fan Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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RashardA wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Washington had a good offseason. They also changed head coaches.
They aquired Kuzma, KCP, Spencer Diwindie and Trez. That's 4 starting level players around Beal, and they still have an injured Thomas Bryant to bring back, and have some other pieces.
Depth wins you RS games. It's an old saying. The stars win you the titles.
Not saying our stars are going to win us anything this year, but they have proven they can win a title and WB has proven he can help lead a team to the NBA Finals. It is what it is. We traded away depth for a third star. Our depth was way better last year, but we have a 3rd weapon we have never had in the playoffs. In particular against the Suns, the same depth was useless to the point where as soon as AD didn't play like a monster, we lost games badly. |
Rui and T. Bryant still have not played.
The Wizards got a squad & i expect they will make some noise in the playoffs. |
Beal has regressed a bit this season, putting up very inefficient numbers. they don't have that clear no. 1 star, just a bunch of role players with couple decent ones. |
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Quote: | Shams Charania
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Lakersfan1211 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Wes Matthews back to Milwaukee. |
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Lakersfan1211 wrote: | Wes Matthews back to Milwaukee. |
Ironically watch him find his 3pt magic in a system were he had more success then the Lakers system. |
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SGV-Laker fan wrote: | RashardA wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Washington had a good offseason. They also changed head coaches.
They aquired Kuzma, KCP, Spencer Diwindie and Trez. That's 4 starting level players around Beal, and they still have an injured Thomas Bryant to bring back, and have some other pieces.
Depth wins you RS games. It's an old saying. The stars win you the titles.
Not saying our stars are going to win us anything this year, but they have proven they can win a title and WB has proven he can help lead a team to the NBA Finals. It is what it is. We traded away depth for a third star. Our depth was way better last year, but we have a 3rd weapon we have never had in the playoffs. In particular against the Suns, the same depth was useless to the point where as soon as AD didn't play like a monster, we lost games badly. |
Rui and T. Bryant still have not played.
The Wizards got a squad & i expect they will make some noise in the playoffs. |
Beal has regressed a bit this season, putting up very inefficient numbers. they don't have that clear no. 1 star, just a bunch of role players with couple decent ones. |
Beal is clearly their number one star. He's just starting the season shooting poorly, but that's happening with a number of guys. Some people attributed that to the new rules, some to a new ball the NBA is using |
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PenG_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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carjoch831 wrote: | Quote: | Shams Charania
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Free agent Wesley Matthews plans to sign a deal with the Bucks, sources tell @TheAthletic
@Stadium
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Unbelievable. Ownership got cheap on AC, DS, Kieff, and Wes, and now Wes is picked up by the Bucks, adding wing depth to an already superior roster. What an annoying season so far. |
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hype Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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PenG_ wrote: | carjoch831 wrote: | Quote: | Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Free agent Wesley Matthews plans to sign a deal with the Bucks, sources tell @TheAthletic
@Stadium
. The 12-year veteran, who spent last season with the Los Angeles Lakers, is set to return to Milwaukee. |
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Unbelievable. Ownership got cheap on AC, DS, Kieff, and Wes, and now Wes is picked up by the Bucks, adding wing depth to an already superior roster. What an annoying season so far. |
Ownership didn't get cheap on Kieff or Wes? They would have been vet min. signings. I personally agreed not re-signing either of them during the off season as well.. Kieff was coming off one of the most horrific shooting stretches i've ever seen my entire life and Wes looked washed much of the season. I can understand a bit with AC obviously but the rest of those guys we just simply moved on from imo. |
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