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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:18 pm    Post subject:

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Per Shams

The Los Angeles Lakers have claimed Avery Bradley off waivers, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.


Ah ha, you are quick today lol.

Good move…we are deficient at defense. This helps.


LOL I was waiting for this one. But now I have to go do stuff so I won't be as quick on the draw LOL

This was interesting tho

Per Gozlan

Avery Bradley is on a non-guaranteed deal so I can see the Lakers waiving him once Talen Horton-Tucker and Trevor Ariza get healthy. It would cost the Lakers $7M in combined payroll and luxury tax expenses if Bradley becomes guaranteed and finishes the season with them.

https://twitter.com/yossigozlan/status/1450207102794825728?s=21


Lol Smh you beat me again to Gozlan tweet. Yeah I took it as “don’t get attached to AB” scenario.

This looks like the Lakers adding defense with a guy who executes exactly what Vogel wants and at the same time it helps AB raise his value across the league again. Seems like he lost some value since that Heat contract and from his perspective, if he just executes with this team he might get more interest again…


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:18 pm    Post subject:

Man we are desperate to not sign Ennis lol

But Avery is cool
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:18 pm    Post subject:

I feel like we still need a backup SF unless Sekou will get mins?

WB/Nunn/Rondo/AB
Monk/THT/Wayne/HBK
LeBron/Kent/Sekou
AD/Melo/Ariza
Dwight/DJ/Jay Huff
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:19 pm    Post subject:

Welcome back Bradley
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:06 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:12 pm    Post subject:

Way too many < 6’5” guards, not enough length to play the modern game: constant switching, positionless offense/defense.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:21 pm    Post subject:

Another washed dude at the position of least need.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:32 pm    Post subject:

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Another washed dude at the position of least need.


That sums it up.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:34 pm    Post subject:

That’s the Buss motto for ya, spend $$$ on big names even they’re passed their prime, and penny pinching elsewhere. Our medical staff is still the worst in the league.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:43 pm    Post subject:

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Man we are desperate to not sign Ennis lol

But Avery is cool


And so is every other team, hence why he is still unsigned.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:25 pm    Post subject:

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That’s the Buss motto for ya, spend $$$ on big names even they’re passed their prime, and penny pinching elsewhere. Our medical staff is still the worst in the league.


30 year old Bradley is past his prime but Ennis at 31 is in his?

Lakers have most roster spots and minutes allocated. Doesn’t hurt to get a good on ball defender. Now, I wish they would cut DJ and sign Ennis. Roll with Huff as the 3rd big.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:20 pm    Post subject:

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Another washed dude at the position of least need.


That sums it up.


It’s a temporary move since THT and Ariza are out…..if he impresses then maybe he sticks and someone else gets cut.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:35 pm    Post subject:

logical24 wrote:
I feel like we still need a backup SF unless Sekou will get mins?

WB/Nunn/Rondo/AB
Monk/THT/Wayne/HBK
LeBron/Kent/Sekou
AD/Melo/Ariza
Dwight/DJ/Jay Huff


I think HBK can play as forward, there are instances in the preseason he did pretty good guarding opposing SF.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:39 pm    Post subject:

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That’s the Buss motto for ya, spend $$$ on big names even they’re passed their prime, and penny pinching elsewhere. Our medical staff is still the worst in the league.


30 year old Bradley is past his prime but Ennis at 31 is in his?

Lakers have most roster spots and minutes allocated. Doesn’t hurt to get a good on ball defender. Now, I wish they would cut DJ and sign Ennis. Roll with Huff as the 3rd big.



another 6'2 Vs a 6'6". NOT interested in either, but I'd take the later
unless there is a trade to be made...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:53 pm    Post subject:

Tough to have strong feelings about the AB signing either way.
We are short on the wings. But it's not the end of the world. We'll be alright. The league is really perimeter oriented nowadays. And just the way the roster is constructed. I'm imagining AD starting at the 4.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:33 pm    Post subject:

Stands to reason he’s familiar enough with our defensive schemes (which are harkening back to our 2020 model) that Bradley should be able to step right in on that end. Essentially he’s like the defensive equivalent to Rondo in offense.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:53 pm    Post subject:

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Another washed dude at the position of least need.


That sums it up.


It’s a temporary move since THT and Ariza are out…..if he impresses then maybe he sticks and someone else gets cut.


Does that really make any sense, though? We have lots of guards. We have Westbrook, Rondo, Bazemore, Ellington, Monk, and Reaves. He's 6' 3", so he's not cover for Ariza. I don't get it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:03 pm    Post subject:

Bradley? Really?
So, the FO now thinks that tge guards we have are crap w.r.t defense?
Robthegenius. Frqnk is supposed to teach Shooting to Russ and Defense to melo.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:16 pm    Post subject:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:
King Randle wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
Another washed dude at the position of least need.


That sums it up.


It’s a temporary move since THT and Ariza are out…..if he impresses then maybe he sticks and someone else gets cut.


Does that really make any sense, though? We have lots of guards. We have Westbrook, Rondo, Bazemore, Ellington, Monk, and Reaves. He's 6' 3", so he's not cover for Ariza. I don't get it.


This is the strangest choice in a series of strange roster choices.

I really can't think of a justification other than wanting to go for the biggest available name.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:16 pm    Post subject:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:
King Randle wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
Another washed dude at the position of least need.


That sums it up.


It’s a temporary move since THT and Ariza are out…..if he impresses then maybe he sticks and someone else gets cut.


Does that really make any sense, though? We have lots of guards. We have Westbrook, Rondo, Bazemore, Ellington, Monk, and Reaves. He's 6' 3", so he's not cover for Ariza. I don't get it.


I think they’ll use Bazemore more in the wing role while Tucker and Ariza are out. Sekou has size but he hasn’t had a camp to learn the sets. You would have the same issue with another wing (like Ennis) coming in at this stage.

As for the guard rotation, Ellington has a hamstring injury (tough), Rondo isn’t going to hold up your defensive framework, and both Nunn and Monk have already gotten hurt. Finding a guy on the eve of the season to fill your 15th roster spot that can step right in if either of Nunn or Monk can’t go sounds like found money to me. Not saying it’s a watershed development, but not a bad use of the waiver wire.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:35 pm    Post subject:

Free agency in 2023

Deandre Ayton (25 years old)        $16,422,835 — What’s the max?
Anthony Davis (30 years old)         $40,600,080
Talen Horton Tucker (23 years old)     $11,020,000

Team salary https://www.spotrac.com/nba/los-angeles-lakers/cap/2023/


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:37 pm    Post subject:

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Free agency in 2023

Deandre Ayton (25 years old)        $16,422,835
Anthony Davis (30 years old)         $40,600,080
Talen Horton Tucker (23 years old)     $11,020,000

Team salary https://www.spotrac.com/nba/los-angeles-lakers/cap/2023/


What are you saying?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:49 pm    Post subject:

Robert Sarver refused to offer Deandre Ayton a max extension, the deadline was today. Other players from his draft class? Luka Doncic ($207 million /5 yrs) Trae Young ($172 million /5 yrs) Jaren Jackson Jr ($105 million /4 yrs) Mikal Bridges ($90 million /4 yrs)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:51 pm    Post subject:

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Free agency in 2023

Deandre Ayton (25 years old)        $16,422,835
Anthony Davis (30 years old)         $40,600,080
Talen Horton Tucker (23 years old)     $11,020,000

Team salary https://www.spotrac.com/nba/los-angeles-lakers/cap/2023/


What are you saying?


Probably grabbing Ayton with the possible cap space Bron/Russ will vacate.

Btw, a 30% max (25% max w/incentives) is the type of deal Ayton was looking for and if current projections hold without cap smoothing and a higher annual increase, then there will be a 6% increase in this year’s cap to next (ie 119m). Carrying that 6% trend over to the 2023/24 season will project to a salary cap of 126m, making yr1 of a 30%max deal 37.8m (ie 31.5m base salary with max incentives).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:01 pm    Post subject:

Evan Sidery wrote:

    Since 2000, only four former No. 1 picks did not sign a rookie-scale extension before the final year of their contract:

    Kwame Brown
    Greg Oden
    Anthony Bennett
    Deandre Ayton
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