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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:55 pm    Post subject:

vasashi17+ wrote:
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Pelinka better not include the pick. He’s gotten a pass on most of his trades in the past, but this shows how terrible a negotiator he is.


What "terrible" trades has Rob made?


That’s a loaded question doc.

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I think you need to ask yourself what moves hasn’t he made?

Created space for a max player to join Bron. Has he locked up a max guy yet?

Created a coaching vacancy to fill. Did he lock up our 1st choice, 2nd choice for that spot?

Couldn’t find personnel to shield Bron from playing the full time lead guard role at 35+ years old.

Bruh?! Rob’s been borderline trash so far. How does anybody see it different haha. Ask yourself, how did we get here in the first place where we have to jump through hoops to make sure we don’t run it back with just Bron being our primary playmaker again.


Rob has not been good thus far and still has a lot to prove in my book. I know I say this a lot, but He's the only GM to break up a championship squad after their 1st championship. Though I moved on from it, it is still one of the most baffling to me. He has done other moves prior that are questionable as well. Right now, I have no faith in him. Probably more so because he didn't have a mentor. He was kind of just thrown in the spot of making decisions. I believe as an agent, he wasn't liked by GM's, so that is against him, when he is negotiating. He probably fairs best when getting free agents. But I think he would have greatly benefitted from someone to teach him the ropes; like bringing in a Jerry West, rather than rejecting him or someone that is savvy in that area.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:56 pm    Post subject:

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3 players for Buddy Hield.

Rob is clueless.


Doubt that it would end up being a 3 for 1. We'll get #39 at the very least.

My hope is KCP + Kuz + Trez for Hield + Delon Wright


39?

Try 9th. Then I would be happy.


You want Fox in there too?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:56 pm    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
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3 players for Buddy Hield.

Rob is clueless.


Doubt that it would end up being a 3 for 1. We'll get #39 at the very least.

My hope is KCP + Kuz + Trez for Hield + Delon Wright


39?

Try 9th. Then I would be happy.


lol word. When Kings fans and Kings media are happy and begging for this trade then you know we’re getting fleeced
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:03 am    Post subject:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5y6km0o_dK8

(Not sure if this is from their season together in New Orleans)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:38 am    Post subject:

Is Kuz + Trezz + McKinnie enough to get Hield?

Then DS (S&T) + KCP + THT for Westbrook?

Sign Derozan with the MLE or MMLE?

Sign the following Vet Min:
Melo
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Mclemore
Morris
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Resign Caruso what he's worth.

Westbrook/Mills/Caruso
Hield/Wes/Mclemore
LBJ/Derozan
AD3/Melo/Morris
Dwight/MGasol
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:42 am    Post subject:

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Agree that 3 players for Hield is asinine. Totally.


Kings GM: We'll give you Hield for Dudley, McKinnie and McLemore.
Laker GM Anth2000: Three players for Hield? That is asinine. Goodbye.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:45 am    Post subject:

https://community.kingsfans.com/threads/shams-lakers-discuss-kuzma-for-buddy-deal.80172/


It seems Kings fans are quite divided on this proposed Buddy to Lakers trade.

They are not jumping for joy in unison at getting Kuzma plus Trezz or KCP.

Many say "we'll at least we get #22"

Some are jumping for joy at getting rid of Buddy's contract.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:56 am    Post subject:

It kinda feels like we may overpay for Hield and give up the 22nd pick. At the same time he could be a perfect fit here. He could get to the next level next to Lebron/AD if he can be a star in his role and not try to force it. From what I follow with the Kings he does seem immature. Kuzma did manage to put his ego aside and accepted his role and played hard.

The Kings seem like a horrible place for young players. Not saying the Lakers is a great place for young guys, but at least we know Lebron won't put up with certain things.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:03 am    Post subject:

eureca wrote:
It kinda feels like we may overpay for Hield and give up the 22nd pick. At the same time he could be a perfect fit here. He could get to the next level next to Lebron/AD if he can be a star in his role and not try to force it. From what I follow with the Kings he does seem immature. Kuzma did manage to put his ego aside and accepted his role and played hard.

The Kings seem like a horrible place for young players. Not saying the Lakers is a great place for young guys, but at least we know Lebron won't put up with certain things.


Oddly enough, I think it makes sense as well. His price tag is somewhat stomach churning. At least with him, he brings a serious outside shooting threat.

My view depends on who is being sent out. I'm actually not fond of parting with KCP in a deal for Hield. Kuz? Ok, fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:04 am    Post subject:

Barry Seal wrote:
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3baller wrote:
RashardA wrote:
3 players for Buddy Hield.

Rob is clueless.


Doubt that it would end up being a 3 for 1. We'll get #39 at the very least.

My hope is KCP + Kuz + Trez for Hield + Delon Wright


39?

Try 9th. Then I would be happy.


lol word. When Kings fans and Kings media are happy and begging for this trade then you know we’re getting fleeced


And this is how we know you're full of it

https://community.kingsfans.com/threads/shams-lakers-discuss-kuzma-for-buddy-deal.80172/
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:28 am    Post subject:

Barry Seal wrote:
Megaton wrote:
3baller wrote:
RashardA wrote:
3 players for Buddy Hield.

Rob is clueless.


Doubt that it would end up being a 3 for 1. We'll get #39 at the very least.

My hope is KCP + Kuz + Trez for Hield + Delon Wright


39?

Try 9th. Then I would be happy.


lol word. When Kings fans and Kings media are happy and begging for this trade then you know we’re getting fleeced


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:59 am    Post subject:

[quote="Barry Seal"]
Megaton wrote:
3baller wrote:
RashardA wrote:
3 players for Buddy Hield.

Rob is clueless.


Doubt that it would end up being a 3 for 1. We'll get #39 at the very least.

My hope is KCP + Kuz + Trez for Hield + Delon Wright


39?

Try 9th. Then I would be happy.


lol word. When Kings fans and Kings media are happy and begging for this trade then you know we’re getting fleeced[/quote

Lol word. Who really cares what fans (especially Kings fans) think? How many championships have the kings won? I’ll take Rob over any internet turd GM any day.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:20 am    Post subject:

Kuzma, Gasol, and #22 to the Magic for Ross and Carter Jr.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:12 am    Post subject:

The Los Angeles Lakers appear to have an advantage in free agency as they are drawing interest from ‘a ton of’ veteran players that are willing to take a pay cut in order to team up with LeBron James and chase a championship. “There’s a lot of speculation right now that seems founded that the Lakers have a ton of veteran-type players ready and interested to come sign on minimum deals and go chase this ring with LeBron,” Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report said on Lakers Central Podcast.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:21 am    Post subject:

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None of these moves seem to make us that much better. We need a big upgrade


The big upgrade is health
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:48 am    Post subject:

People getting worked up over speculation is kind of crazy lol

I think Rob has done a great job...1 chip obviously....even this year over the summer he was being lauded by pretty much everyone for bringing top two 6th men of the year....in retrospect I think we can see that chemistry was an issue....but even then, I mean let's be real if AD and LBJ were at full health like the previous year does anyone seriously question as to whether we would have been in the finals?????

Injuries happen and we, along with a bunch of other teams got hit, particularly hard as it was our two main players along with a lot of role players....happened to BKN as well...a big difference for us was the very short off-season which was an unknown at the end of last season


I think Rob has done more than enough for people not to hyperventilate and should have some patience to see how things shake out versus going bonkers about every rumor that comes out
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:57 am    Post subject:

I'm about 48 hours too late, but on Zach Lowe's podcast he mentioned the Grizzlies are receiving the Lakers 2022 1st (top-10 protected, otherwise NOP) in the Adams trade.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:10 am    Post subject:

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The Los Angeles Lakers appear to have an advantage in free agency as they are drawing interest from ‘a ton of’ veteran players that are willing to take a pay cut in order to team up with LeBron James and chase a championship. “There’s a lot of speculation right now that seems founded that the Lakers have a ton of veteran-type players ready and interested to come sign on minimum deals and go chase this ring with LeBron,” Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report said on Lakers Central Podcast.


Yea. Rob doesn't get enough credit for tampering. Very un-Mitch-like.

GMs always get over criticized or over praised cuz fans are emotional morons. Hopefully we get rings with whoever is at the helm, in this case Rob. I'm just glad LeBron and AD extended their contracts and give us a chance to win.

Re: the vets. I wouldn't be shocked if Melo is on that list haha. Maybe even a couple of his former clients: Ariza and Iggy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:19 am    Post subject:

Personally I'd love to have melo off the bench, I think in Portalnd he's shown he can contribute in a very meanignful way in that role
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:26 am    Post subject:

Kevin O'Connor probably enjoying this right now. "Wow, I took my little Intel about the Lakers and wrote about the potential deal and I doubled the clicks to my website. Let me retweet the link again."

He may be able to analyze players, but hopefully he's a bit less skilled in how that translates to making deals.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:27 am    Post subject:

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Personally I'd love to have melo off the bench, I think in Portalnd he's shown he can contribute in a very meanignful way in that role


I believe Rob knows he already has Melo in the bag. I am not hating on Kuz, but I think Rob feels like Melo is at least a push (maybe even an upgrade) compared to Kuz on the offensive side of the ball. With Melo in tow, Kuz becomes expendable (it always sucks to get rid of a young guy on a good contract).
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:28 am    Post subject:

Lol. Everyone all stressed over a rumor.
Even if true that it’s Kuzma/trez/pick

Your giving up disappointing Kuz, a guy that can literally just opt out and can’t be played in playoffs, and a pick that may or may not pan out, for a starting two guard that shoots 10 threes a game at a high clip and fits perfectly with our two superstars.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:31 am    Post subject:

There was a report yesterday I think from Sam Amick that the Sixers were also interested in Hield. Maybe the Lakers had to include the #22 to secure the deal. We will find out soon...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:32 am    Post subject:

Interesting notes on Buddy:

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Hield has three seasons left on his contract: $22 million next season, then $20.5 million, and then $18.6 million.

Rob Pelinka represented Hield before he joined the front office of the Lakers.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:35 am    Post subject:

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The Los Angeles Lakers appear to have an advantage in free agency as they are drawing interest from ‘a ton of’ veteran players that are willing to take a pay cut in order to team up with LeBron James and chase a championship. “There’s a lot of speculation right now that seems founded that the Lakers have a ton of veteran-type players ready and interested to come sign on minimum deals and go chase this ring with LeBron,” Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report said on Lakers Central Podcast.


Yea. Rob doesn't get enough credit for tampering. Very un-Mitch-like.

GMs always get over criticized or over praised cuz fans are emotional morons. Hopefully we get rings with whoever is at the helm, in this case Rob. I'm just glad LeBron and AD extended their contracts and give us a chance to win.

Re: the vets. I wouldn't be shocked if Melo is on that list haha. Maybe even a couple of his former clients: Ariza and Iggy.


All depends on who those “ veteran-type players” actually are.

Can’t wait to see if the quality and durability of players actually accepting those vet min contracts. Can they still contribute and compete or a long list of “five years too late” types?

Certainly will be an interesting study on NBA longevity. Just how many old guys can sustain a high level of fitness over a long season and then a playoff run.

My guess is the “if only we were healthy for the playoffs, we would have won it all” becomes the new Laker mantra for the next few years. Maybe put it on a t-shirt.
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