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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:10 pm    Post subject:

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Hopefully "or KCP" doesn't mean "if Trez opts out" then KCP will be included.


Montrezl Harrell, and Kyle Kuzma or Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:10 pm    Post subject:

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I'd do Kuz/Harrell/#22 for Hield all day long.


Agreed.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:11 pm    Post subject:

Pelinka better not include the pick. He’s gotten a pass on most of his trades in the past, but this shows how terrible a negotiator he is.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:11 pm    Post subject:

I don't think Kevin O'Connor has sources from the Laker's side. The Lakers are pretty tight-lipped. I think his sources are coming from the Kings trying to get that #22 pick.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:12 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
Now we know why Harrell was acting weird on Twitter, have fun in Sacramento.


Not if he opts out.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:12 pm    Post subject:

LGFan wrote:
epic_ wrote:
Hopefully "or KCP" doesn't mean "if Trez opts out" then KCP will be included.


Montrezl Harrell, and Kyle Kuzma or Kentavious Caldwell-Pope


Yea I know.
But since Trez hasn't opted in yet, it's probably fluid.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:12 pm    Post subject:

Dr. Laker wrote:
I'd do Kuz/Harrell/#22 for Hield all day long.


Yep.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:12 pm    Post subject:

LakersKobeBrynt8 wrote:
Pelinka better not include the pick. He’s gotten a pass on most of his trades in the past, but this shows how terrible a negotiator he is.
lol
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:13 pm    Post subject:

32 wrote:
I don't think Kevin O'Connor has sources from the Laker's side. The Lakers are pretty tight-lipped. I think his sources are coming from the Kings trying to get that #22 pick.


Or agents spilling beans.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:13 pm    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
2019 wrote:
alleyoop wrote:
22 + McKinnie
for
27 + Shamet

then

KCP + Harrell + 27
for
Hield + 39

?


Love it but not sure Brooklyn does.

Keep Kuz, add a good bench shooter in Shamet, and add a 21ppg level guy who is arguably a top 3 shooter in the NBA. +39 do pull off some draft Magic.


KCP is more valuable to us than Kuzma is, KCP is Klutch while Kuz is CAA, and there's the apparent idea that Luke likes Kuz. It would seem like if there's a trade to be made with the Kings, that Kuzma and not KCP would be a part of it.


People make too much of the Klutch angle. Rich Paul essentially works for LeBron. What LeBron wants is best for Klutch overall. Factor in AD and it's all about keeping those two fed and winning. Sending KCP and Trez to a different team, if it helps the Lakers, will not be a hold up.

Regarding fit... if that deal the was proposed above happened, it'd make more sense than Kuzma going instead of KCP. Hield/Shamet/Caruso/THT/Dennis would likely be the backcourt.. Need to add KCP to that mix? Nah. Either way, it's just a fan proposal that is fun to respond to.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:14 pm    Post subject:

LakersKobeBrynt8 wrote:
Pelinka better not include the pick. He’s gotten a pass on most of his trades in the past, but this shows how terrible a negotiator he is.


I would be interested to know if this is his own doing or if it’s pressure from Klutch. Wherever Lebron goes, the dumping of assets seems to follow.

It shouldn’t take 22nd pick to get this done, but if Rob feels pressured he better find a way to get Bagley and/or pick in return.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:14 pm    Post subject:

If we can get Marvin Bagley, giving up the 22nd pick wouldn’t be so bad..
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:17 pm    Post subject:

trading KCP for Hield seems dumb. and we add the pick?? and Hield will probably get the Ben Mclemore treatment from Vogel
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:17 pm    Post subject:

What about this...

- Kuzma for Ingles straight up
- Trez + KCP + 22 for Buddy + Jones
- Schroder + THT for Lowry (Lowry has to force it)
- Caruso for MMLE
- Add Dwight, Melo, Nwaba with Vet Min
- Re-sign Morris, Wes, BenMac, Dudley
- Find undrafted 3rd string PG


Lowry | Caruso | Undrafted Rookie
Buddy | Ingles | BenMac
LeBron | Wes | Nwaba
AD | Melo | Dudley
Dwight | Gasol | Jones
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:17 pm    Post subject:

LakerSD wrote:
LakersKobeBrynt8 wrote:
Pelinka better not include the pick. He’s gotten a pass on most of his trades in the past, but this shows how terrible a negotiator he is.


I would be interested to know if this is his own doing or if it’s pressure from Klutch. Wherever Lebron goes, the dumping of assets seems to follow.

It shouldn’t take 22nd pick to get this done, but if Rob feels pressured he better find a way to get Bagley and/or pick in return.


Definitely Klutch all over this. Put another way, Rich Paul could say I will make Trez opt in as long as you get this deal done (per LBJ’s instructions). But that would still make him a terrible negotiator.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:18 pm    Post subject:

LakersKobeBrynt8 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
LakersKobeBrynt8 wrote:
Pelinka better not include the pick. He’s gotten a pass on most of his trades in the past, but this shows how terrible a negotiator he is.


I would be interested to know if this is his own doing or if it’s pressure from Klutch. Wherever Lebron goes, the dumping of assets seems to follow.

It shouldn’t take 22nd pick to get this done, but if Rob feels pressured he better find a way to get Bagley and/or pick in return.


Definitely Klutch all over this. Put another way, Rich Paul could say I will make Trez opt in as long as you get this deal done (per LBJ’s instructions). But that would still make him a terrible negotiator.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:18 pm    Post subject:

where the rumors at
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:19 pm    Post subject:

kuzma/trez/22 for hield/9

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:21 pm    Post subject:

Nnamdi21 wrote:
trading KCP for Hield seems dumb. and we add the pick?? and Hield will probably get the Ben Mclemore treatment from Vogel


Hield is a bad defender, BMac is a terrible one. I think buddy does a more. He can shoot that three on or off the dribble, and actually has decent playmaking skills distributing the basketball.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:30 pm    Post subject:

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If we can get Marvin Bagley, giving up the 22nd pick wouldn’t be so bad..


Bagley is gonna be a whole separate transaction. They took him over freaking Luka Doncic. They're not making him a throw-in to get the #22.

I personally hope we can hold onto KCP and send out Kuz. That would be a really good trade.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:31 pm    Post subject:

32 wrote:
Buddy is an elite shooter like we have never seen in a Laker uniform. Yes, his defense is not great but his offense will make up for it.


What? lol Glenn Rice? Buddy is a glorified George Mccloud. This would be a horrible trade and fleece by the Kings.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:32 pm    Post subject:

Hopefully the Lakers buy a 2nd rounder and find another gem to make up for the #22.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:32 pm    Post subject:

32 wrote:
Even if we get Buddy we still need a playmaking guard. That was supposed to be the #1 priority.


Westbrook and Buddy would be perfect haha
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:33 pm    Post subject:

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Hopefully the Lakers buy a 2nd rounder and find another gem to make up for the #22.


Or get 39 from the kings.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:34 pm    Post subject:

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LakerSD wrote:
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Pelinka better not include the pick. He’s gotten a pass on most of his trades in the past, but this shows how terrible a negotiator he is.


I would be interested to know if this is his own doing or if it’s pressure from Klutch. Wherever Lebron goes, the dumping of assets seems to follow.

It shouldn’t take 22nd pick to get this done, but if Rob feels pressured he better find a way to get Bagley and/or pick in return.


Definitely Klutch all over this. Put another way, Rich Paul could say I will make Trez opt in as long as you get this deal done (per LBJ’s instructions). But that would still make him a terrible negotiator.


LBJ’s instruction ends up hurting LBJ. When the Klutch superstars went down, the other pieces couldn’t even beat some lottery teams.

If it wasn’t for that 24-7 start, they are probably a 10 seed or even lower.
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