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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:05 am    Post subject:

IT with a Laker High -1 for any player with significant minutes last night.
What would be the loss if we dump DJ for him on a non-guarantee. We can still use Huff for more than half the games at this point.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:17 am    Post subject:

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IT with a Laker High -1 for any player with significant minutes last night.
What would be the loss if we dump DJ for him on a non-guarantee. We can still use Huff for more than half the games at this point.


at this point I'd dump DJ for a bag of bean sprouts and a cup of water.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:06 am    Post subject:

The offense looks substantially better run by IT than Westbrook or Lebron at this point.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:16 am    Post subject:

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The offense looks substantially better run by IT than Westbrook or Lebron at this point.


Our offense would look better with Cookie the Clown running it instead of Westbrook
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:41 am    Post subject:

IT might be the second best scorer on the team
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:06 pm    Post subject:

hydrohead wrote:
IT with a Laker High -1 for any player with significant minutes last night.
What would be the loss if we dump DJ for him on a non-guarantee. We can still use Huff for more than half the games at this point.


Good thing he got a lot of run the last 4-5 minutes against the Wolves third teamers to pad the stats.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:16 pm    Post subject:

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hydrohead wrote:
IT with a Laker High -1 for any player with significant minutes last night.
What would be the loss if we dump DJ for him on a non-guarantee. We can still use Huff for more than half the games at this point.


Good thing he got a lot of run the last 4-5 minutes against the Wolves third teamers to pad the stats.



Exactly and all things being equal, I’d not dump a big for IT but if
it made sense maybe a small.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:28 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
hydrohead wrote:
IT with a Laker High -1 for any player with significant minutes last night.
What would be the loss if we dump DJ for him on a non-guarantee. We can still use Huff for more than half the games at this point.


Good thing he got a lot of run the last 4-5 minutes against the Wolves third teamers to pad the stats.


Players like Kostas, Cacok, Dudley don't score 20 points when you put them in garbage time.

Players like Kuzma do.

We could use someone who can score like Kuzma against second and third units.

We need some more offensive creativity... I don't know why people wouldn't want him to succeed.

And IT is a way better shooter than Kuzma... even if a defensive liability.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:37 pm    Post subject:

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hydrohead wrote:
IT with a Laker High -1 for any player with significant minutes last night.
What would be the loss if we dump DJ for him on a non-guarantee. We can still use Huff for more than half the games at this point.


Good thing he got a lot of run the last 4-5 minutes against the Wolves third teamers to pad the stats.


He actually did a fair amount of his work throughout the game, but maybe the cable went out in podunk Ventura.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:49 pm    Post subject:

BILBJH wrote:
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hydrohead wrote:
IT with a Laker High -1 for any player with significant minutes last night.
What would be the loss if we dump DJ for him on a non-guarantee. We can still use Huff for more than half the games at this point.


Good thing he got a lot of run the last 4-5 minutes against the Wolves third teamers to pad the stats.


Players like Kostas, Cacok, Dudley don't score 20 points when you put them in garbage time.

Players like Kuzma do.

We could use someone who can score like Kuzma against second and third units.

We need some more offensive creativity... I don't know why people wouldn't want him to succeed.

And IT is a way better shooter than Kuzma... even if a defensive liability.


What do you do on the defensive end with now a much smaller shorter line up? Like I said this team don’t have the personnel to be able to play IT consistently and get away with it. He fits better on last year’s roster.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:50 pm    Post subject:

hydrohead wrote:
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hydrohead wrote:
IT with a Laker High -1 for any player with significant minutes last night.
What would be the loss if we dump DJ for him on a non-guarantee. We can still use Huff for more than half the games at this point.


Good thing he got a lot of run the last 4-5 minutes against the Wolves third teamers to pad the stats.


He actually did a fair amount of his work throughout the game, but maybe the cable went out in podunk Ventura.


Or maybe some actually watched the game. Good for him that he is getting into playing shape but a -1 isn’t impressive.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:44 pm    Post subject:

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He actually did a fair amount of his work throughout the game, but maybe the cable went out in podunk Ventura.



Throughout the game? IT didn't play at all in the 1st quarter, and he played less than 2 minutes in the 3rd quarter, so he did all his work in quarters 2 and 4.

To be fair to Ventura, 7 of IT's 19 points were in the last 3 minutes when the game was already over, so there was a good chunk of garbage time stats.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:51 pm    Post subject:

It was smart of Rob to sign him quickly because you know some other team will with the Covid thing. He can still score which is valuable
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:52 pm    Post subject:

hydrohead wrote:
IT with a Laker High -1 for any player with significant minutes last night.
What would be the loss if we dump DJ for him on a non-guarantee. We can still use Huff for more than half the games at this point.


I'd get rid of Bazemore and deandre Jordan at the same time. Sadly I don't see any team just taking them off our hands. If we bring in IT for the rest of the season maybe we could package Nunn with them.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:19 pm    Post subject:

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hydrohead wrote:
He actually did a fair amount of his work throughout the game, but maybe the cable went out in podunk Ventura.



Throughout the game? IT didn't play at all in the 1st quarter, and he played less than 2 minutes in the 3rd quarter, so he did all his work in quarters 2 and 4.

To be fair to Ventura, 7 of IT's 19 points were in the last 3 minutes when the game was already over, so there was a good chunk of garbage time stats.


So he played the 2nd and 3rd quarters and scored 12 points during that?
Thanks for confirming what I wrote
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:46 pm    Post subject:

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The offense looks substantially better run by IT than Westbrook or Lebron at this point.


Which would be wonderful if defense wasn't a thing. It will be a nice addition for shots of quick offense. But he couldn't guard a wheelchair player.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:59 pm    Post subject:

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Isaiah Thomas says the first thing he thought of after Rob called him was Kobe.

“What would Kobe think about this? He would always send me a text when something dope happened. I wish he was here."
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:08 pm    Post subject:

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Isaiah Thomas says the first thing he thought of after Rob called him was Kobe.

“What would Kobe think about this? He would always send me a text when something dope happened. I wish he was here."


Beautiful, love the respect.

This is the type of signing that could prove to galvanize the locker room. His success will light a fire within this team. Less entitlement, more hustle and grind. Instant offence off the bench. Great debut. Let’s see if he can keep it up.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:20 pm    Post subject:

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skin wrote:
The offense looks substantially better run by IT than Westbrook or Lebron at this point.


Which would be wonderful if defense wasn't a thing. It will be a nice addition for shots of quick offense. But he couldn't guard a wheelchair player.


Not a defender by any means but he serves a role like you said, shots of quick offense.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:18 pm    Post subject:

If IT keeps playing well, and the Lakers sign him for beyond this 10-day period, I wonder if he would have any trade value where we could package him in a trade for a 3-and-D forward instead of giving up another vet min guy like Monk.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:36 pm    Post subject:

Seriously how disloyal have Lakers fans become?

"I really hope IT plays well after getting back in the league... so we can trade him!!"

This isn't the Lakers way of "we take care of our own".

Remember that big contract we gave to Kobe even though he was the end of the road and every other organization was calling us crazy, but that wasn't a factor to us because we were taking care of Kobe?

That's the kind of stuff Dr. Buss would do, it's the kind of mentality he had, its why people like Magic and Kobe fell in love with this organization because of the things they'd do for their own.

Let's not let that mentality disappear from all of us.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:40 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
Seriously how disloyal have Lakers fans become?

"I really hope IT plays well after getting back in the league... so we can trade him!!"

This isn't the Lakers way of "we take care of our own".

Remember that big contract we gave to Kobe even though he was the end of the road and every other organization was calling us crazy, but that wasn't a factor to us because we were taking care of Kobe?

That's the kind of stuff Dr. Buss would do, it's the kind of mentality he had, its why people like Magic and Kobe fell in love with this organization because of the things they'd do for their own.

Let's not let that mentality disappear from all of us.

I'm not saying we should absolutely trade IT.

I'm just saying that if he sticks and plays well, maybe he's an option to trade if we do strike a deal instead of trading someone like Monk who has given us a lift many times this season.

It's good to have lots of options. The only untradeable guys on this team are the Big 3.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:07 pm    Post subject:

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If IT keeps playing well, and the Lakers sign him for beyond this 10-day period, I wonder if he would have any trade value where we could package him in a trade for a 3-and-D forward instead of giving up another vet min guy like Monk.


That is extremely doubtful, especially considering the minuscule salary (relatively) he would make.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:19 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
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If IT keeps playing well, and the Lakers sign him for beyond this 10-day period, I wonder if he would have any trade value where we could package him in a trade for a 3-and-D forward instead of giving up another vet min guy like Monk.


That is extremely doubtful, especially considering the minuscule salary (relatively) he would make.

Wouldn't he be making about the same as our other vet min players?

I'm not suggesting IT would have tons of trade value, but maybe the same amount as those other guys so that we would still be left with enough young guys in the backcourt when trading for a useful frontcourt player.
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