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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:41 pm    Post subject:

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(Trump Visibly Scared in Interview So Bad, Even Hannity Can't Save Him)

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-- Donald Trump reappears on Fox News to be interviewed by Sean Hannity in an interview so absurd and deranged that, despite his attempts, even Hannity can't save Trump
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:33 pm    Post subject:

Trump is a con's con. When will he have to pay the piper?

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“It’s an outrageous abuse of his donors to Save America,” said Saurav Ghosh, director of federal campaign finance reform at the Campaign Legal Center, a Washington-based nonprofit, about the use of political committee funds to defend Trump and his family in a lawsuit that is largely focused on his business activities long before he became president or even a candidate.

But Ghosh acknowledged that the payments fall into a murky legal gray zone. Federal law prohibits the use of campaign funds for personal use, which the Federal Election Committee has ruled covers spending for legal expenses unrelated to a candidate’s political or official duties. But there have been no clear rulings on whether such prohibitions apply to so-called leadership PACs, such as Save America. As a result, “Trump can rest assured the FEC wont be bringing legal action,” Ghosh said.

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(Burn: See MAGA-Era Science Lies Roasted And Debunked By Neil DeGrasse Tyson)

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Astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson talks to Ari Melber about applying a “cosmic perspective” to many current problems on earth, drawing on his new book, "Starry Messenger: Cosmic Perspectives on Civilization." Tyson also discusses the difference between personal and religious “truths,” and the kind of objective truth that undergirds science and valid policy making. This digital exclusive is a full interview with Tyson. Excerpts aired on "The Beat with Ari Melber" on MSNBC.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:05 pm    Post subject:

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Trump is a con's con. When will he have to pay the piper?


Shows that the IRS doesn't care about inflating or deflating appraisals by 7000% as much as they do about Ponzi scheme runners. And everyone here knows for fact that Don would've gone his entire life running that scheme had it not been for the Presidency and public pressure to get him duly investigated.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:12 pm    Post subject:

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It's worth reminding people. They know, and they approve. Remember that when you try and rationalize that your republican friends are decent people. They may be polite people, and act decently in public or toward you, but decent people don't support this.

The "decent" people who vote Republican probably think all these charges are BS and nothing more than a witchhunt. It's all part of the Trump cult where none of his followers ever think he has done anything wrong.


Nah, 14% of people polled said both that he was a threat to democracy and that they’d vote for him. They know he’s done wrong. It’s a feature not a bug. Getting away with it is the desire of every inner five year old.

The people you mentioned obviously don't believe in democracy. The number of dimwits who believe that has seemingly been rising in recent years, not just here but also in Europe.

I really believe that a fraction of Trump followers aren't necessarily bad people, but they've been hoodwinked and radicalized by the MAGA cult. Seems like that's a feature of every cult movement once it reaches critical mass - it attracts otherwise "decent" people who have some kind of a pain point.

A little OT, but I saw something on MSNBC recently about a former white supremacist who was trying to help a current white supremacist leave the movement and turn his life around. Sometimes a few of these people can be saved if they're not outright bad people.

If our side gets its game plan together, we can convert enough of those people to vote blue just like we did in 2020, and people like that who are working poor will benefit.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:16 am    Post subject:

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(Rep. Raskin BLOWS THE ROOF off the House, destroys Republicans in devastating response)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:21 am    Post subject:

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It's worth reminding people. They know, and they approve. Remember that when you try and rationalize that your republican friends are decent people. They may be polite people, and act decently in public or toward you, but decent people don't support this.

The "decent" people who vote Republican probably think all these charges are BS and nothing more than a witchhunt. It's all part of the Trump cult where none of his followers ever think he has done anything wrong.


Nah, 14% of people polled said both that he was a threat to democracy and that they’d vote for him. They know he’s done wrong. It’s a feature not a bug. Getting away with it is the desire of every inner five year old.


That fake polite BS Trump supporters do drives me nuts. They’ll say the most offensive stuff in a polite tone of voice.
And when you challenge their argument (even in a polite manner). They act like you are out of line.

I always come back to 2 things.

1) You can support Trump or you can take the moral high ground in a given argument. But you can’t do both without being a humongous hypocrite.

2) I don’t blame people for voting R if it suits their own financial interests. But the vast amount of poor, disproportionately white Trump voters out there. Who are voting against their own financial interests. They are dumb on a level that our founding fathers didn’t think was possible when we created our democracy.


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(Trump wages secret court battle to block Jan. 6 info)

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Former President Donald Trump’s attorneys are fighting a secret court battle to block a federal grand jury from gathering information from an expanding circle of close Trump aides about his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, people briefed on the matter told CNN.
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(Report Finds U.S. Latinos Have The World's Fifth-Largest GDP)

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Sol Trujillo, co-founder and chair of Latino Donor Collaborative, comments on the economic impact of U.S. Latinos. "It's what differentiates the U.S. from other majority economies: we have a youthful cohort that's entrepreneurial, productive.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:07 am    Post subject:

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jodeke wrote:
Trump is a con's con. When will he have to pay the piper?


Shows that the IRS doesn't care about inflating or deflating appraisals by 7000% as much as they do about Ponzi scheme runners. And everyone here knows for fact that Don would've gone his entire life running that scheme had it not been for the Presidency and public pressure to get him duly investigated.


I have a feeling Letitia James is going to bring Trump down. She's not DOJ, FED, she's the NY AD. Congress and other federal entities don't have jurisdiction to control her. Letitia James is on a mission and NY hates Trump.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:47 pm    Post subject:

This is just one poll, but Crist has been consistently behind DeSantis the whole campaign. Maybe DeSantis' stupid, cruel, wasteful stunt backfired on him:

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Florida Governor:

Charlie Crist (D) 53% (+6)
Ron DeSantis (R-Inc) 47%


The Listener Group/@PoliticalMatrix, 700 LV, 9/21
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/20220923_FL_Listener.pdf


Now we have to hope Beto catches up with that other piece of **** governor in Texas.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:59 pm    Post subject:

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This is just one poll, but Crist has been consistently behind DeSantis the whole campaign. Maybe DeSantis' stupid, cruel, wasteful stunt backfired on him:

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Florida Governor:

Charlie Crist (D) 53% (+6)
Ron DeSantis (R-Inc) 47%


The Listener Group/@PoliticalMatrix, 700 LV, 9/21
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/20220923_FL_Listener.pdf


Now we have to hope Beto catches up with that other piece of **** governor in Texas.


Wait until this Hurricane messes us up this week and people really start to find out how truly screwed up the homeowners insurance situation is here. A situation that years of Republican leadership has let happen. DeSantis could have done something, but all he cared about was “woke” and culture wars. If this hurricane is as devastating as Charley, which so far it shows a similar track to, there’s going to be a lot of people who won’t get insurance money as the market completely collapses and even more companies pull out of the state. Luckily we have Nationwide, so we’re good. But so many people are covered by these tiny Florida companies with shaky financials, or even worse by the state run insurer of last resort, Citizens.
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jodeke wrote:
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Trump is a con's con. When will he have to pay the piper?


Shows that the IRS doesn't care about inflating or deflating appraisals by 7000% as much as they do about Ponzi scheme runners. And everyone here knows for fact that Don would've gone his entire life running that scheme had it not been for the Presidency and public pressure to get him duly investigated.


I have a feeling Letitia James is going to bring Trump down. She's not DOJ, FED, she's the NY AD. Congress and other federal entities don't have jurisdiction to control her. Letitia James is on a mission and NY hates Trump.


There's only so much she can do in a civil case. She can put the hurt on him financially. But that's about it. And he'll find a way to offset it . . . he's been doing it his entire life, and now he has the GOP shills' pockets to reach into for help.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:41 pm    Post subject:

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Just imagine if Obama or Clinton was credibly accused of that laundry list above. OMG, it would be 24/7 howling outrage from Fox News and Republican politicians until the end of time. They would be constructing a gallows and calling for public execution.


Obama had a laundry list on Fox.

1) Dijon instead of French's on a hot dog (all-American food)
2) tan suit (not a serious color)
3) took off coat in Oval Office (no respect for the office a la Reagan)

Clintons had so many non-scandals that became scandals that you'd be here all day listing them. They actually did to Vince Foster what MBS did to Khasoggi, remember. And Travelgate? That was so bad that you'd have to read it on wikipedia to remind yourself what it was. And Spygate? Must've had something to do with spies. A lot of gates they had. Add a -gate at the end and it becomes equivalent to Watergate, ge it? Hillary going for universal health care was beyond the pale, tho. We like SMALL government! (but only after we finish stripping away the remnants of body autonomy from women).
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jodeke wrote:
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Trump is a con's con. When will he have to pay the piper?


Shows that the IRS doesn't care about inflating or deflating appraisals by 7000% as much as they do about Ponzi scheme runners. And everyone here knows for fact that Don would've gone his entire life running that scheme had it not been for the Presidency and public pressure to get him duly investigated.


I have a feeling Letitia James is going to bring Trump down. She's not DOJ, FED, she's the NY AD. Congress and other federal entities don't have jurisdiction to control her. Letitia James is on a mission and NY hates Trump.


There's only so much she can do in a civil case. She can put the hurt on him financially. But that's about it. And he'll find a way to offset it . . . he's been doing it his entire life, and now he has the GOP shills' pockets to reach into for help.

I understand civil vs criminal. Isn't financial fraud in Manhattan criminal?
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(Rise Of Republican Latino Voters Cause Alarm Among Democratic Activists)

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Paola Ramos, host of Field Report with Paola Ramos, talks with Alex Wagner about why a growing number of Latino voters are voting for Republican candidates, and why cultural conservatism sometimes takes precedence over Republican attitudes towards immigrants.
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jodeke wrote:
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Trump is a con's con. When will he have to pay the piper?


Shows that the IRS doesn't care about inflating or deflating appraisals by 7000% as much as they do about Ponzi scheme runners. And everyone here knows for fact that Don would've gone his entire life running that scheme had it not been for the Presidency and public pressure to get him duly investigated.


I have a feeling Letitia James is going to bring Trump down. She's not DOJ, FED, she's the NY AD. Congress and other federal entities don't have jurisdiction to control her. Letitia James is on a mission and NY hates Trump.


There's only so much she can do in a civil case. She can put the hurt on him financially. But that's about it. And he'll find a way to offset it . . . he's been doing it his entire life, and now he has the GOP shills' pockets to reach into for help.

I understand civil vs criminal. Isn't financial fraud in Manhattan criminal?


There are aspects of those crimes that are criminal. That's why she made referrals to SDNY and IRS for them to consider criminal prosecutions. Criminal cases are harder to prove because you need proof beyond a reasonable double (civil only needs a preponderance of the evidence) and you need to prove intent.
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jodeke wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
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jodeke wrote:
Trump is a con's con. When will he have to pay the piper?


Shows that the IRS doesn't care about inflating or deflating appraisals by 7000% as much as they do about Ponzi scheme runners. And everyone here knows for fact that Don would've gone his entire life running that scheme had it not been for the Presidency and public pressure to get him duly investigated.


I have a feeling Letitia James is going to bring Trump down. She's not DOJ, FED, she's the NY AD. Congress and other federal entities don't have jurisdiction to control her. Letitia James is on a mission and NY hates Trump.


There's only so much she can do in a civil case. She can put the hurt on him financially. But that's about it. And he'll find a way to offset it . . . he's been doing it his entire life, and now he has the GOP shills' pockets to reach into for help.

I understand civil vs criminal. Isn't financial fraud in Manhattan criminal?


There are aspects of those crimes that are criminal. That's why she made referrals to SDNY and IRS for them to consider criminal prosecutions. Criminal cases are harder to prove because you need proof beyond a reasonable double (civil only needs a preponderance of the evidence) and you need to prove intent.


I know. Looks to me like Letitia James is covering all bases.
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The restrictions being sought by the New York attorney general include permanent bans on Trump and his three children from serving as executives in any company in New York, a move that would tear the Trump Organization away from his personal control.

The other penalties being sought would prevent Trump from attempting to circumvent that principal restriction to establish his business under a different guise: James is also seeking to bar Trump from acquiring commercial real estate and applying for loans in New York for five years.


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If she succeeds. That'll be a major hit to Trump. No wonder he seems a bit scared.
Of course it won't "end" Trump. But if agencies are watching him. They'll find out who he goes to for $. I'm guessing Russia or Saudi Arabia.
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The restrictions being sought by the New York attorney general include permanent bans on Trump and his three children from serving as executives in any company in New York, a move that would tear the Trump Organization away from his personal control.

The other penalties being sought would prevent Trump from attempting to circumvent that principal restriction to establish his business under a different guise: James is also seeking to bar Trump from acquiring commercial real estate and applying for loans in New York for five years.


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If she succeeds. That'll be a major hit to Trump. No wonder he seems a bit scared.
Of course it won't "end" Trump. But if agencies are watching him. They'll find out who he goes to for $. I'm guessing Russia or Saudi Arabia.


Letitia James is hitting Trump where it hurts most, in the wallet. What's puzzling to me is why entities continue to loan Trump money when his ventures end up failing. I don't think Russia is in any position to make loans. Vladimir has big trouble of his own.
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Trump is an investment for Putin.
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Trump is an investment for Putin.


How so?
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Trump is an investment for Putin.


How so?


One of it matters if he can’t hold on to power, which is a separate matter, but trump in power helps Putin and trumpism at large is good for Putin. He wants to weaken rule of law democracy because he wants to play in a world of kleptocracy. He can’t fight nato on the battlefield. He wants a fractured nationalist world.
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Trump is an investment for Putin.


How so?


One of it matters if he can’t hold on to power, which is a separate matter, but trump in power helps Putin and trumpism at large is good for Putin. He wants to weaken rule of law democracy because he wants to play in a world of kleptocracy. He can’t fight nato on the battlefield. He wants a fractured nationalist world.


Understood. I thought you were referring to my saying Putin is in trouble and probably won't be able to loan Trump money.
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Elvia Díaz, Senior Editor for the Arizona Republic, speaks with Yasmin Vossoughian about the power of the Latino vote in Arizona, why both Republicans and Democrats face challenges in gaining their support, and what issues matter most to this group in the upcoming midterm elections.
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