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Source confirms Allen Weisselberg will implicate the Trump Organization and Trump Payroll Corp when he pleads guilty to criminal tax fraud charges in the morning — and he will agree to testify against them at trial in October if called as a witness.


What changed from the previous news, which was the opposite?
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Source confirms Allen Weisselberg will implicate the Trump Organization and Trump Payroll Corp when he pleads guilty to criminal tax fraud charges in the morning — and he will agree to testify against them at trial in October if called as a witness.


What changed from the previous news, which was the opposite?


He ran out of options. The case was going forward, his attorneys almost certainly saw a conviction, and the only way to a deal is to testify. Far different when you’re at the precipice of multi year sentence at his age than when you’re earlier in the process trying to find a way out.
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ChefLinda wrote:
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Molly Crane-Newman @molcranenewman

Source confirms Allen Weisselberg will implicate the Trump Organization and Trump Payroll Corp when he pleads guilty to criminal tax fraud charges in the morning — and he will agree to testify against them at trial in October if called as a witness.


What changed from the previous news, which was the opposite?


He ran out of options. The case was going forward, his attorneys almost certainly saw a conviction, and the only way to a deal is to testify. Far different when you’re at the precipice of multi year sentence at his age than when you’re earlier in the process trying to find a way out.


Yes, and the state will not officially validate the 5-month sentence deal until after he testifies.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:43 am    Post subject:

The question in the GOP primary is how wounded is Trump by that time. Which leads to where the tipping point is between the MTG and Romney wings (love the crazy of trump specifically vs go along to get the parts they want even if the crazy is at least consciously not their cup of tea). Are there enough that see Desantis as a more viable choice with independents and swing voters. But make no mistake, all of them will turn out for either guy, because they can smell their fascist victory. Trump is likely weaker at the margins that matter though.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:35 am    Post subject:

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The question in the GOP primary is how wounded is Trump by that time. Which leads to where the tipping point is between the MTG and Romney wings (love the crazy of trump specifically vs go along to get the parts they want even if the crazy is at least consciously not their cup of tea). Are there enough that see Desantis as a more viable choice with independents and swing voters. But make no mistake, all of them will turn out for either guy, because they can smell their fascist victory. Trump is likely weaker at the margins that matter though.


When it comes to the Republican primaries, their is literally NOTHING that can weaken Trump with that base. No one from the MAGA part of the party will run against him in a primary -- because they are afraid of the base and afraid of Trump turning the base against them. Trump has to run as it's his only chance to shield himself from the more than 3-dozen lawsuits against him, criminal and civil. He has to run to continue the grift. Even if he loses to Biden, he would have delayed repercussions from the lawsuits for about two years down the line. He will have center stage from which to elevate the grift to it's maximum potential.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:49 am    Post subject:

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The question in the GOP primary is how wounded is Trump by that time. Which leads to where the tipping point is between the MTG and Romney wings (love the crazy of trump specifically vs go along to get the parts they want even if the crazy is at least consciously not their cup of tea). Are there enough that see Desantis as a more viable choice with independents and swing voters. But make no mistake, all of them will turn out for either guy, because they can smell their fascist victory. Trump is likely weaker at the margins that matter though.


When it comes to the Republican primaries, their is literally NOTHING that can weaken Trump with that base. No one from the MAGA part of the party will run against him in a primary -- because they are afraid of the base and afraid of Trump turning the base against them. Trump has to run as it's his only chance to shield himself from the more than 3-dozen lawsuits against him, criminal and civil. He has to run to continue the grift. Even if he loses to Biden, he would have delayed repercussions from the lawsuits for about two years down the line. He will have center stage from which to elevate the grift to it's maximum potential.


Yup. I was merely calculating where the tipping point can get between the hardcore MAGA and "wish we had someone else but will go along". DeSantis is running fairly well against Trump this early because a significant number of Republican voters want the win and perhaps a more palatable general candidate and better puller of levers in office. Biden won in part because a lot of people who voted for Trump the first time (independents and soft GOP) bailed because they were tired of him (they voted GOP down ballot). That fatigue may increase with all the stuff coming out.

My gut says Trump is still the strong first choice but DeSantis has a shot and would be the tougher general candidate.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:50 am    Post subject:

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The question in the GOP primary is how wounded is Trump by that time. Which leads to where the tipping point is between the MTG and Romney wings (love the crazy of trump specifically vs go along to get the parts they want even if the crazy is at least consciously not their cup of tea). Are there enough that see Desantis as a more viable choice with independents and swing voters. But make no mistake, all of them will turn out for either guy, because they can smell their fascist victory. Trump is likely weaker at the margins that matter though.


When it comes to the Republican primaries, their is literally NOTHING that can weaken Trump with that base. No one from the MAGA part of the party will run against him in a primary -- because they are afraid of the base and afraid of Trump turning the base against them. Trump has to run as it's his only chance to shield himself from the more than 3-dozen lawsuits against him, criminal and civil. He has to run to continue the grift. Even if he loses to Biden, he would have delayed repercussions from the lawsuits for about two years down the line. He will have center stage from which to elevate the grift to it's maximum potential.


Yup. I was merely calculating where the tipping point can get between the hardcore MAGA and "wish we had someone else but will go along". DeSantis is running fairly well against Trump this early because a significant number of Republican voters want the win and perhaps a more palatable general candidate and better puller of levers in office. Biden won in part because a lot of people who voted for Trump the first time (independents and soft GOP) bailed because they were tired of him (they voted GOP down ballot). That fatigue may increase with all the stuff coming out.

My gut says Trump is still the strong first choice but DeSantis has a shot and would be the tougher general candidate.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:26 am    Post subject:

Weisselberg is willing to testify against the Trump organization but not against Trump the individual. Trump dodged another bullet.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:55 am    Post subject:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/18/liz-cheney-concession-call-trump-harriet-hageman
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Liz Cheney releases call to Trump-backed opponent who said she didn’t concede

Cheney releases recording of her call to Harriet Hageman, conceding her loss in the Wyoming US House primary on Tuesday

Cheney gave a recording of the call to Politico. In it, she said: “Hi, Harriet, it is Liz Cheney calling. It is about 8.13 [pm] on Tuesday the 16th. I’m calling to concede the election and congratulate you on the win. Thanks.


This is NOT what America deserves.. Why are the no integrity scum the only people Republicans will vote for?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:03 am    Post subject:

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This is NOT what America deserves.. Why are the no integrity scum the only people Republicans will vote for?


Because, at their core, many GOP TrumpTards are racist/selfish/ignorant/evil/unpatriotic/tribal asshats.

EFF them ALL.

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ContagiousInspiration wrote:

This is NOT what America deserves.. Why are the no integrity scum the only people Republicans will vote for?


Because, at their core, many GOP TrumpTards are racist/selfish/ignorant/evil/unpatriotic/tribal asshats.

EFF them ALL.



I just wish some Billionaire or some Org would come up with a way to help remove the disease in the Trumptards heads. They are dangerous and many just keep building up a life they will come to deeply regret. Their Self Hate is all consuming.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:47 am    Post subject:

Alex Jones Endorses 'Someone Way Better Than Trump'

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Infowars conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has stopped supporting former President Donald Trump, announcing he's backing Trump's potential 2024 presidential rival, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.

Jones said that he had only supported Trump "pigheadedly" in the past, during a Wednesday livestream on Infowars. He blasted the former president for backing COVID-19 vaccines and accelerating their development with his Operation Warp Speed initiative, while falsely claiming that the vaccines "don't work" and are "poisonous." Jones praised DeSantis for becoming more "red-pilled," a reference to the film The Matrix that is often used by the right to describe a person becoming conservative.


https://www.newsweek.com/alex-jones-endorses-someone-way-better-trump-1734661
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Who is Mary Peltola, the Democrat outperforming expectations in Alaska?

Democratic U.S. House candidate Mary Peltola defied expectations on Tuesday by outperforming her Republican rivals in Alaska, a surprise result in a deep-red state that comes as Democrats are bracing for a brutal midterm election season.

Peltola’s performance is more than just a hopeful sign for Democrats; it’s also potentially historic. If she wins, it would mark a first for the state’s Indigenous community — the former state representative would be the first Indigenous person from Alaska and first woman from Alaska to serve in Congress.

As of Wednesday, Peltola led the special election race with nearly 38 percent of the vote, while former Gov. Sarah Palin (R) trailed behind at 32 percent. Republican Nick Begich rounded out the third spot with nearly 29 percent support.

While Tuesday’s results were unofficial, with more ballots set to come in as late as Aug. 31, Peltola sounded cautiously optimistic on election night.

“We’re all hopeful, of course, but you hate to jinx anything,” Peltola said at an election watch party on Tuesday, according to Alaska Public Media. “And so I am definitely going to be waiting for all the districts to come in and all the absentee ballots to come in patience.”

Maddy Mundy, a spokesperson for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, echoed Peltola’s optimism in a statement to The Hill on Wednesday.

“At a time when Nick Begich and Sarah Palin are pushing a toxic agenda, Alaska’s adoption of ranked-choice voting could create new opportunities for Democratic leadership. We are watching this race closely and look forward to seeing the finalized results from Tuesday’s election,” Mundy said.

Palin responded to Tuesday’s results by lambasting the new ranked-choice system, calling it “crazy,” “convoluted” and “undesirable.”

“Voters are confused and angry, and feel disenfranchised by this cockamamie system that makes it impossible to trust that your vote will even be counted the way you intended. We’ll keep fighting to equip Alaskans with the information they need to make sure their voices are heard amidst this Leftist-crafted system – no matter how hard the corrupt political establishment works to silence us,” Palin said in a statement.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3605889-who-is-mary-peltola-the-democrat-outperforming-expectations-in-alaska/
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 12:38 pm    Post subject:

Weissenlberg is willing to spend time at Rikers rather than turn on Trump. If I have it right he got 5 months. He'll serve around 100 days.

Longtime Trump executive Weisselberg pleads guilty, becomes prosecution witness

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Who is Mary Peltola, the Democrat outperforming expectations in Alaska?

Democratic U.S. House candidate Mary Peltola defied expectations on Tuesday by outperforming her Republican rivals in Alaska, a surprise result in a deep-red state that comes as Democrats are bracing for a brutal midterm election season.

Peltola’s performance is more than just a hopeful sign for Democrats; it’s also potentially historic. If she wins, it would mark a first for the state’s Indigenous community — the former state representative would be the first Indigenous person from Alaska and first woman from Alaska to serve in Congress.

As of Wednesday, Peltola led the special election race with nearly 38 percent of the vote, while former Gov. Sarah Palin (R) trailed behind at 32 percent. Republican Nick Begich rounded out the third spot with nearly 29 percent support.

While Tuesday’s results were unofficial, with more ballots set to come in as late as Aug. 31, Peltola sounded cautiously optimistic on election night.

“We’re all hopeful, of course, but you hate to jinx anything,” Peltola said at an election watch party on Tuesday, according to Alaska Public Media. “And so I am definitely going to be waiting for all the districts to come in and all the absentee ballots to come in patience.”

Maddy Mundy, a spokesperson for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, echoed Peltola’s optimism in a statement to The Hill on Wednesday.

“At a time when Nick Begich and Sarah Palin are pushing a toxic agenda, Alaska’s adoption of ranked-choice voting could create new opportunities for Democratic leadership. We are watching this race closely and look forward to seeing the finalized results from Tuesday’s election,” Mundy said.

Palin responded to Tuesday’s results by lambasting the new ranked-choice system, calling it “crazy,” “convoluted” and “undesirable.”

“Voters are confused and angry, and feel disenfranchised by this cockamamie system that makes it impossible to trust that your vote will even be counted the way you intended. We’ll keep fighting to equip Alaskans with the information they need to make sure their voices are heard amidst this Leftist-crafted system – no matter how hard the corrupt political establishment works to silence us,” Palin said in a statement.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3605889-who-is-mary-peltola-the-democrat-outperforming-expectations-in-alaska/


I love the idea that the very republican controlled system is a leftist conspiracy.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 12:57 pm    Post subject:

The Majority Report w/ Sam Seder

(Super-Paranoid Rudy Giuliani Thinks Deep State Wants To Kill Trump)

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Rudy Giuliani sat down with Newsmax to help Trump "lower the temperature" on the anti-FBI rhetoric going around in wingnut-land by doing a little conspiracy peddling...

Newmax Host: "Do you think Donald Trump should be in any fear of the deepest of the Deep State maybe killing him?"

Rudy: "I do. I do"
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 12:59 pm    Post subject:

David Pakman Show

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-- Republican Senator Marco Rubio, as well as Republican Senate challengers Mehmet Oz and Herschel Walker, are all losing their races in the latest polls
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Who is Mary Peltola, the Democrat outperforming expectations in Alaska?

Democratic U.S. House candidate Mary Peltola defied expectations on Tuesday by outperforming her Republican rivals in Alaska, a surprise result in a deep-red state that comes as Democrats are bracing for a brutal midterm election season.

Peltola’s performance is more than just a hopeful sign for Democrats; it’s also potentially historic. If she wins, it would mark a first for the state’s Indigenous community — the former state representative would be the first Indigenous person from Alaska and first woman from Alaska to serve in Congress.

As of Wednesday, Peltola led the special election race with nearly 38 percent of the vote, while former Gov. Sarah Palin (R) trailed behind at 32 percent. Republican Nick Begich rounded out the third spot with nearly 29 percent support.

While Tuesday’s results were unofficial, with more ballots set to come in as late as Aug. 31, Peltola sounded cautiously optimistic on election night.

“We’re all hopeful, of course, but you hate to jinx anything,” Peltola said at an election watch party on Tuesday, according to Alaska Public Media. “And so I am definitely going to be waiting for all the districts to come in and all the absentee ballots to come in patience.”

Maddy Mundy, a spokesperson for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, echoed Peltola’s optimism in a statement to The Hill on Wednesday.

“At a time when Nick Begich and Sarah Palin are pushing a toxic agenda, Alaska’s adoption of ranked-choice voting could create new opportunities for Democratic leadership. We are watching this race closely and look forward to seeing the finalized results from Tuesday’s election,” Mundy said.

Palin responded to Tuesday’s results by lambasting the new ranked-choice system, calling it “crazy,” “convoluted” and “undesirable.”

“Voters are confused and angry, and feel disenfranchised by this cockamamie system that makes it impossible to trust that your vote will even be counted the way you intended. We’ll keep fighting to equip Alaskans with the information they need to make sure their voices are heard amidst this Leftist-crafted system – no matter how hard the corrupt political establishment works to silence us,” Palin said in a statement.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3605889-who-is-mary-peltola-the-democrat-outperforming-expectations-in-alaska/


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That part cracked me up too, so much that I had to include it in the summary. Who the hell does she think runs Alaska?

I have a lot of very good friends up there, and everyone hates her and said she spent most of her time fundraising down in the states. They're all voting for Peltola, even the Republicans.
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NewsNation

(Newsom, Ivey spar on Twitter over education, public safety | Morning in America)

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NewsNation's Alex Caprariello breaks down the argument and The Hill's Niall Stanage weighs in.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 1:05 pm    Post subject:

The MG (Master Grifter) is doing what he does best. People are so gullible. "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. " I still don't think he'll be the nominee in 2024.

Trump rakes in millions off FBI search at Mar-a-Lago

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Herschel Walker paraphrased "If people came from apes why are there still apes?" In Herschel's case "Shut up and run the football" is apropos. SMH
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:17 pm    Post subject:

@ OMAR LITTLE & DaMuleRules. Allow me to clarify my position.

I said I don't think he'll win the nomination. I didn't say he wouldn't run I said he MAY not run

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Being the grifter he is he may not run. He may just be building a war chest for his personal use.

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But make no mistake, all of them will turn out for either guy


I disagree. I think if Trump doesn't get the nomination.
He'll say it was a conspiracy. He'll sue. And a large portion of his supporters will sit out the election.
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But make no mistake, all of them will turn out for either guy


I disagree. I think if Trump doesn't get the nomination.
He'll say it was a conspiracy. He'll sue. And a large portion of his supporters will sit out the election.


Trump/Putin/SA will do all they can to make sure a Republican wins though even if it is that puke in FL
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But make no mistake, all of them will turn out for either guy


I disagree. I think if Trump doesn't get the nomination.
He'll say it was a conspiracy. He'll sue. And a large portion of his supporters will sit out the election.


Yep. A lot of the MAGATs that got Trump elected the first time and voted the second are Trumpsters, not routine voters. In that group, they showed up both times specifically for him, and wouldn’t have voted otherwise. If Trump isn’t in the general election, they’ll go back to staying home on Election Day. Other candidates won’t have the appeal to them.
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