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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:12 pm    Post subject:

It may have been a tactical blunder during the elections, but Hillary was 10000% right with her "basket of deplorables" comment.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:31 pm    Post subject:

Trump leaked the search warrant documents and didn't redact the FBI agent's names. Now they are allegedly getting death threats. What a piece of (bleep).
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:34 pm    Post subject:

The #InflationReductionAct will make health insurance more affordable, cap your out of pocket prescription drug costs, reduce your energy bill, reduce the deficit, and bring down inflation. I am proud of the work we did to get it passed to save Florida families money.

In my best Kamala Harris impersonation, “We did it Joe.”
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:16 pm    Post subject:

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Trump leaked the search warrant documents and didn't redact the FBI agent's names. Now they are allegedly getting death threats. What a piece of (bleep).


Was initially seriously angered, still am, but this is what America needs....

Just like the Capitol Police - FBI now clealy knows he is a Terrorist who has ZERO Loyalty to anyone and is willing to murder Americans to help himself - even those who protect him.

Trump and his team knew 110% exactly what would happen after their names were revealed...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:17 pm    Post subject:

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Trump leaked the search warrant documents and didn't redact the FBI agent's names. Now they are allegedly getting death threats. What a piece of (bleep).


If Trump points to one of his Lawyers as the one that approved it could the Lawyer be punished for this?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:25 pm    Post subject:

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Gunman Tried to Breach Cincinnati’s F.B.I. Office, Officials Say


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/11/us/fbi-cincinnati-shooting-news

Looks like the Trump nutters are starting more (bleep). Imagine dying in some Ohio field for this orange moron.


In case you aren't a NYTimes subscriber LINK

Trumpsters are out of their minds. He has influence that's dangerous. I'm surprised at just how far supremacists will go. They are putting their lives on the line.
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('Utter Baloney': Rep. Himes Knocks Trump's Excuses For Having Classified Material)

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Rep. Jim Himes, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, talks about the stringent security requirements for accessing America's closest held secrets and why Donald Trump's evolving series of excuses for how secret material ended up at Mar-a-Lago are nonsense.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:17 pm    Post subject:

DuncanIdaho wrote:
It may have been a tactical blunder during the elections, but Hillary was 10000% right with her "basket of deplorables" comment.


It wasn’t really a blunder, because doing so changed no one’s mind. It just revealed who the deplorables were.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:21 pm    Post subject:

32 wrote:
Trump leaked the search warrant documents and didn't redact the FBI agent's names. Now they are allegedly getting death threats. What a piece of (bleep).


The orange (bleep) and all the GOP scum are all in on trying to get convicted of insurrection and treason. If sucks that we don’t have the democratic leadership to grant them their wish.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:27 pm    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
trmiv wrote:
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Gunman Tried to Breach Cincinnati’s F.B.I. Office, Officials Say


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/11/us/fbi-cincinnati-shooting-news

Looks like the Trump nutters are starting more (bleep). Imagine dying in some Ohio field for this orange moron.


In case you aren't a NYTimes subscriber LINK

Trumpsters are out of their minds. He has influence that's dangerous. I'm surprised at just how far supremacists will go. They are putting their lives on the line.


He's the Pied Piper of idjits and mentalists. Cesar Sayoc says hi. I wonder what percentage of his goons were already disturbed before 2015. And the thing is, Jode, in general Presidents draw all kinds of dangerous nutballs and fruitcakes when the President is a NORMAL human being. The list of plotted, attempted, and/or successful assassinations alone is long and dates back to 1835. And this don't include the plethora of weirdos who have driven cars thru WH gates or ran into the WH, etc. EG: Reagan stopped golfing near the WH when an armed nut took over the pro shop and held hostages while Ronnie was on the course. Jode, can you say, "A pleh-thorr-ra of pinatas?..."

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Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy

shot:
T. Roosevelt (while sitting in open White steam car at a Bull Moose party speech in 1912, bullet was partially stopped by a long folded speech and a steel spectacle case, but it penetrated his chest under the skin. He still gave the speech!)

Reagan (bullet ricocheted off door of limo into his chest, 1981)

shot at or close call:

Jackson (at Capitol steps, guy fires two duds at Andrew who beats him savagely w/ his cane, 1835)

Lincoln (1st attempt, shot thru hat by rifle while in carriage, 1864)

Taft: (in Mexico, nut with gun along parade route stopped by a Texas Ranger feet away from Taft and Mexican President Porfirio Diaz, 1909)

F.D. Roosevelt (shot at on stage in Miami, Chicago mayor Anton Cermak was killed, 1933)

Truman (armed shootout outside a house Harry was living in during WH renovations, 1st SS killed in line of duty, 1950. Harry woke up from a nap in his boxers and was looking down from above at the shootout before SS whisked him away from the window.)

Ford (shot at by two women in a 17 day span in 1975, both opportunists, one a former Mansonite Squeaky Fromme who just happened to be there when Gerald took an unpublicized walk to the limo in Sacramento)

GHW Bush (bomb attack in Kuwait sanctioned by Saddam Hussein foiled, new President Clinton retaliated with cruise missile strikes on Iraq, 1993)

Clinton (bridge bomb plot sanctioned by bin Laden foiled on a trip to Manila, 1996. Nut shot AK47 at WH while Clinton was inside, 1994. Nut flew stolen Cessna into WH while Clinton was gone, 1994)

GW Bush (nut threw a live grenade towards George while giving a speech in the country of Georgia, grenade didn't fire because the firing pin didn't fall out, 2005)

Obama (nut shot rifle at WH, 2011. Terrorist mailed letter containing ricin addressed to Barry which was intercepted, 2013).

Nixon: Supposedly Arthur Bremer's primary target (Bremer shot George Wallace instead in 1972)

Carter: Supposedly John Hinckley's 1st target (he shot Reagan instead who had begun his first term in the intervening time)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:51 pm    Post subject:

If Trump gets on a plane and tries to flee the country will the US shoot it down? I hope so. I would authorize military strikes on Mar-A-Lago right now without warning if I could. It is a Terrorist comound for the most active threat against America in our history!

Actually, SS would have to be kidnapped or shot for him to get on a plane they didn't approve?

*****And NO KUDOS to Merrick Garland or anyone.. Trump had this (bleep) since he left office.. total failure everywhere anyone looks.

In a functioning Democracy.. They would have rolled up on him instead of asking for it back. They should have taken it all back by force over a year ago and left him applications to start a library legally etc..
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:12 am    Post subject:

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32 wrote:
Trump leaked the search warrant documents and didn't redact the FBI agent's names. Now they are allegedly getting death threats. What a piece of (bleep).


The orange (bleep) and all the GOP scum are all in on trying to get convicted of insurrection and treason. If sucks that we don’t have the democratic leadership to grant them their wish.


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Garland has repeatedly said NOONE is above the law.

But until proven wrong. I'm assuming you are right DMR. Slap on the wrist is all Trump will get.

Hope we are both wrong though!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:27 am    Post subject:

Republicans are still defending Trump after all this (not a surpirse). We should start calling them the pro-espionage and pro-traitor party. There is nothing "conservative" or "pro law & order" or "pro law enforcement" about any of this. They are an authoritarian fascist cult. And they have no interest in governing or passing legislation that helps the American economy or the American people. Not a single Republican in either the Senate or the House voted for the Inflation Reduction bill passed yesterday that addresses climate change, inflation, medical costs, prescription drug costs and creates jobs.

As seen on twitter (which would be a good campaign slogan):

Democrats deliver, Republicans block.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:48 am    Post subject:

NYT: Trump Lawyer Told Justice Dept. That Classified Material Had Been Returned

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At least one lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump signed a written statement in June asserting that all material marked as classified and held in boxes in a storage area at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and club had been returned to the government, four people with knowledge of the document said.

The written declaration was made after a visit on June 3 to Mar-a-Lago by Jay I. Bratt, the top counterintelligence official in the Justice Department’s national security division.


The existence of the signed declaration, which has not previously been reported, is a possible indication that Mr. Trump or his team were not fully forthcoming with federal investigators about the material. And it could help explain why a potential violation of a criminal statute related to obstruction was cited by the department as one basis for seeking the search warrant used to carry out the daylong search of the former president’s home on Monday, an extraordinary step that generated political shock waves.


And then at the end of the article was this little gem:

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Shortly before Mr. Garland made the announcement, a person close to Mr. Trump reached out to a Justice Department official to pass along a message from the former president to the attorney general. Mr. Trump wanted Mr. Garland to know he had been checking in with people around the country and found them to be enraged by the search.

“The country is on fire,” Mr. Trump said, according to a person familiar with the exchange. “What can I do to reduce the heat?”


This is Trump-Speak for: "That's a nice little Democracy you have there, it would too bad if something happened to it."

Trump actually tried his mob boss intimidation tactics on AG Garland. And then soon thereafter Garland had the press conference and moved to get search order unsealed.

[I'm holding back about a thousand swear words here.]
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:47 am    Post subject:

To report Breitbart and any violent rhetoric...

https://tips.fbi.gov/
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:37 am    Post subject:

More post-Roe decision fallout showing up in polls:

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Across race and education, Fox poll shows women shifting towards Democrats.

Since May:
Women + 7D
White women + 8D
Nonwhite women +10D
White college women +8D
White no college women + 8D
Suburban women (reminder: we are diverse!) +9D


Fox News Poll: Race for Congress tightens

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If voting today, the survey shows the race tied, as 41% would back the Democratic candidate in their House district and 41% the Republican. The GOP had a 3-point edge in July and June, and a 7-point advantage in May.

"Between passage of the Inflation Reduction Act, killing al Qaeda’s leader, less pain at the pump, and the Republican-appointed Supreme Court justices taking away abortion rights, the political landscape is less horrible for Democrats," says Democratic pollster Chris Anderson, who conducts the Fox surveys with Republican Daron Shaw. "There are successes Democrats can point to that didn’t exist in the spring, but the biggest single change I see in this poll is the increased disapproval of the Supreme Court and suspect that is a significant factor."


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Meanwhile, the shift in vote preference mainly comes from women. They preferred the GOP candidate by 1 point in May and now go for the Democrat by 6.

Also since May, party loyalty among Democrats increased by 3 points and decreased among Republicans by 2 points. And while independents remain largely undecided, their support for the GOP candidate is down 2 points.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:41 am    Post subject:

This moment is one where Democrats really can and Biden probably is appealing to Republicans who still are Americans to come together and defend our Nation from people who seek to harm us.

No way the FBI who were on his side don't see what is happening.. They are intelligent enough tno know he was served 2 or 3 times etc to give the (bleep) back and never did.. Now he put their lives and their families lives at risk of massive death threats all because they are trying to defend our Nations TOP SECRET Intelligence that was stolen by a Terrorist

If Mohammed al Jin Balali <made up name> was sitting on 15 boxes of stolen top secret us intelligence data.... it would have been a no knock search with several people shot and everyone from maids to to landscapers hauled away in handcuffs.

18 months ago BTW he has had this stuff since what day in 2021?
No Kudos.. This wasn't an overdue library book.. it was stolen national secrets in the hands of a russian terrorist. No Kudos... one gasp of fresh air because the whole of humanity required the US FBI to try to save the world from Americas former Terrorist President who is now using violence and threats of Civil War against the US Govt

The Whole of Humanity required our AG to act a long time ago.. Now the Saudis have enough secrets they were willing to pay 2 Billion dollars for it?? Kashoogi killing was already paid for before this money

I think America and Garland and Mueller failed the world kowtoing to Trump and Republicans
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:00 pm    Post subject:

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NYT: Trump Lawyer Told Justice Dept. That Classified Material Had Been Returned

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At least one lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump signed a written statement in June asserting that all material marked as classified and held in boxes in a storage area at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and club had been returned to the government, four people with knowledge of the document said.

The written declaration was made after a visit on June 3 to Mar-a-Lago by Jay I. Bratt, the top counterintelligence official in the Justice Department’s national security division.


The existence of the signed declaration, which has not previously been reported, is a possible indication that Mr. Trump or his team were not fully forthcoming with federal investigators about the material. And it could help explain why a potential violation of a criminal statute related to obstruction was cited by the department as one basis for seeking the search warrant used to carry out the daylong search of the former president’s home on Monday, an extraordinary step that generated political shock waves.


And then at the end of the article was this little gem:

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Shortly before Mr. Garland made the announcement, a person close to Mr. Trump reached out to a Justice Department official to pass along a message from the former president to the attorney general. Mr. Trump wanted Mr. Garland to know he had been checking in with people around the country and found them to be enraged by the search.

“The country is on fire,” Mr. Trump said, according to a person familiar with the exchange. “What can I do to reduce the heat?”


This is Trump-Speak for: "That's a nice little Democracy you have there, it would too bad if something happened to it."

Trump actually tried his mob boss intimidation tactics on AG Garland. And then soon thereafter Garland had the press conference and moved to get search order unsealed.

[I'm holding back about a thousand swear words here.]


I'd pay ALOT of $ for a peek into Garland's mind the past couple weeks.

I hope the movie (that eventually gets made) and the book someone writes (hopefully Garland) is enlightening.

Specifically his thought process. For example, I could see a non-vindictive reasoning behind Garland unsealing the search order in response to Trump's “What can I do to reduce the heat?”

You can't discern from his actions whether Garland hates Trump. Or if he doesn't give 2 poops about Trump, and he's just doing his job very very well.

I'm not surprised Barack liked Garland.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:38 pm    Post subject:

This is free votes for Democrats.
Appeal to HUMAN Decency not Terrorism
You only have to splice in some words from Trump and the FBI shooter


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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:59 pm    Post subject:

Nate Silver:

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All that said, Republicans are still fairly clear favorites to keep the House. Notably, President Biden is quite unpopular despite a modest improvement in his approval ratings, whereas FDR, JFK, Clinton and GWB were all popular at the times of their midterms. The public still has very negative views about the economy and the direction the country is headed in, and that’s usually rough for the party in power to overcome.

But the circumstances of these midterms are also potentially unusual, with high uncertainty, and that’s why Democrats keeping the House is a thinkable outcome

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:02 pm    Post subject:

Nate Silver is a number-crunching doofus.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:04 pm    Post subject:

CNN

(Watch Jordan Klepper confront MAGA crowd on conspiracies)

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"The Daily Show with Trevor Noah" contributor Jordan Klepper joins CNN's Jim Acosta to discuss his interactions with individuals outside a MAGA rally in Wisconsin and the false conspiracy theories they presented.
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CNN

(Dale fact-checks Trump's claims after FBI search)

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CNN's Daniel Dale reviews claims made by former President Trump on his social media platform Truth Social about the FBI search of his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida.
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MSNBC

(DNC Chairman On 2022 Midterm Elections, President Biden)

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Chairman of the DNC Jaime Harrison speaks to Symone D Sanders about what President Biden is getting done and the outlook for Democrats in the 2022 midterm elections.
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