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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:55 pm    Post subject:

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Biden better wake up...
This is not 1990 etc
Republicans do not work for America so please stop waiting for them to come on board. They are since their naming a party of divisiveness and blockage of ALL Democratic policies and bills

Biden will fail ALL Democrats if he continues to seek bipartisanship.

I don't like this version of Biden... it is like he is too nice and principled to be effective... and a bit Gomer Pyle like


You do realize that without Manchin and Sinema he can’t even pass something through reconciliation, and that the politically advantageous stance of being as non partisan as he can seem while being as partisan and effective as he can are not exclusive?


Manchin and Sinema are jelly donuts in unlocked foot lockers.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:20 am    Post subject:

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Manchin and Sinema are jelly donuts in unlocked foot lockers.


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Holy Jesus! What is that? What the f*** is that? WHAT IS THAT, PRIVATE PYLE?

Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, a jelly doughnut, sir!

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
A jelly doughnut?

Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, yes, sir!

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
How did it get here?

Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, I took it from the mess hall, sir!

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
Is chow allowed in the barracks, Private Pyle?

Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, no, sir!

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
Are you allowed to eat jelly doughnuts, Private Pyle?

Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, no, sir!

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
And why not, Private Pyle?

Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, because I'm too heavy, sir!

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
Because you are a disgusting fat body, Private Pyle!

Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, yes, sir!

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
Then why did you try to sneak a jelly doughnut in your foot locker, Private Pyle?

Private Gomer Pyle:
Sir, because I was hungry, sir!

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
Because you were hungry...

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
Private Pyle has dishonored himself and dishonored his platoon. I have tried to help Private Pyle. I have failed. I have failed because YOU have not given Private Pyle the proper motivation! So, from now on, whenever Private Pyle f***s up, I will not punish him! I will punish all of YOU! And the way I see it, ladies, you owe me for ONE JELLY DOUGHNUT! NOW, GET DOWN ON YOUR FACES!

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
Open your mouth!

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:
They're payin' for it; YOU eat it!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:59 pm    Post subject:

Disgusting.

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In a ruling that compared the AR-15 to a Swiss Army knife, a federal judge overturned California's longtime ban on assault weapons on Friday, ruling it violates the Second Amendment's right to bear arms.


https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/1401154613080956934
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:49 pm    Post subject:

^^^McConnell has been stacking the courts with far right-wing judges for years but Manchin is *worried* about bi-partisanship.

GOP version of bi-partisanship: We get everything and you get nothing. And we don't care.

Oh and guess who suspended the filibuster for SCOTUS nominees? That was McConnell too. The same guy who stole 2 SCOTUS seats. Was he worried about bi-partisanship?

But Manchin still believes in bi-partisanship.

It's like believing in the (bleep) tooth fairy past age 12.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:22 pm    Post subject:

^ I think the federal judge that overturned California's longtime ban on assault weapons was appointed by George W. Bush.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:31 pm    Post subject:

This is becoming more and more a possibility, and it extremely disturbing.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:58 am    Post subject:

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This is becoming more and more a possibility, and it extremely disturbing.

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America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

That's the flaw in democratic societies. There's always an opening for fascists to get elected and erode democracy.

All you need is an assault on facts, information and science, an attack on the working class by the elites and some good old-fashioned narcissism, which is where bigotry of all kinds comes from.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:07 am    Post subject:

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^^^McConnell has been stacking the courts with far right-wing judges for years but Manchin is *worried* about bi-partisanship.

GOP version of bi-partisanship: We get everything and you get nothing. And we don't care.

Oh and guess who suspended the filibuster for SCOTUS nominees? That was McConnell too. The same guy who stole 2 SCOTUS seats. Was he worried about bi-partisanship?

But Manchin still believes in bi-partisanship.

It's like believing in the (bleep) tooth fairy past age 12.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:32 am    Post subject:

This is either some kind of long game by Schumer that will eventually result in Manchin and Sinema agreeing to get rid of the filibuster and vote for crucial legislation because they "realized" that Republicans can't be moved on anything...or we're (bleep).
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:03 am    Post subject:

Wilt wrote:
This is either some kind of long game by Schumer that will eventually result in Manchin and Sinema agreeing to get rid of the filibuster and vote for crucial legislation because they "realized" that Republicans can't be moved on anything...or we're (bleep).


Idk what it is going to take to make some Democrats see that the Republicans have not been interested in compromise or bipartisanship in over a decade. I knew when the Senate was basically split evenly, nothing would get done. Hell even the President is one of those dolt's that still thinks he can work with Republicans. The right sees the left as their enemy. They have been programmed by right wing media to feel that for a LONG time. Those same people are now getting into office. They run on fear mongering how horrible liberals are and what they want to do to the Country. Yet Democrats think they want to work together? lmao
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:16 am    Post subject:

Well, creating the perception that you want to work with the other side is good politically. That's one of the reasons why Biden won the election. He can't just abandon that political brand. So I understand why he's saying what he's saying.

I even understand why Manchin would want to create the same perception, too. But, at some point, you have to do the right thing or the country will be ruined.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:43 am    Post subject:

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Well, creating the perception that you want to work with the other side is good politically. That's one of the reasons why Biden won the election. He can't just abandon that political brand. So I understand why he's saying what he's saying.

I even understand why Manchin would want to create the same perception, too. But, at some point, you have to do the right thing or the country will be ruined.


When will the need of "The many outweigh the need of the few or the one" kick-in for Manchin, or will it ever? I may have him wrong but he doesn't strike me as self-serving. He may still be hanging on to the bipartisan hope. Or maybe he's a Republican in disguise.

Sooner or later, hopefully, sooner, Biden has to take the gloves off.
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Others are noting this, but it can't be shared enough: Donald Trump gave his big speech today with his pants on backwards. Look close and tell me I'm wrong.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:05 am    Post subject:

^
Snopes has already said that it's a false claim.

Lots of doctored videos and images going around.


So while there was a zipper, the pants were heavily wrinkled and, as usual, the suit didn't fit him.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:37 pm    Post subject:

Wilt wrote:
This is either some kind of long game by Schumer that will eventually result in Manchin and Sinema agreeing to get rid of the filibuster and vote for crucial legislation because they "realized" that Republicans can't be moved on anything...or we're (bleep).


I hope the first part is what comes about . . .


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:57 pm    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
Wilt wrote:
Well, creating the perception that you want to work with the other side is good politically. That's one of the reasons why Biden won the election. He can't just abandon that political brand. So I understand why he's saying what he's saying.

I even understand why Manchin would want to create the same perception, too. But, at some point, you have to do the right thing or the country will be ruined.


When will the need of "The many outweigh the need of the few or the one" kick-in for Manchin, or will it ever? I may have him wrong but he doesn't strike me as self-serving. He may still be hanging on to the bipartisan hope. Or maybe he's a Republican in disguise.

Sooner or later, hopefully, sooner, Biden has to take the gloves off.


And how do you propose he does that?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:30 pm    Post subject:

I've worn plenty of shorts w/o zippers backwards. Its pretty damn hard to wear something with a zipper backwards and not notice. Even I have to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:53 pm    Post subject:

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Others are noting this, but it can't be shared enough: Donald Trump gave his big speech today with his pants on backwards. Look close and tell me I'm wrong.


https://mobile.twitter.com/BFriedmanDC/status/1401406435121106947




Not sure what’s more funny Donald’s Kris Kross backward hip hop pants or his famous “Person, Woman, Man , Camera, TV” interview
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:31 pm    Post subject:

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jodeke wrote:
Wilt wrote:
Well, creating the perception that you want to work with the other side is good politically. That's one of the reasons why Biden won the election. He can't just abandon that political brand. So I understand why he's saying what he's saying.

I even understand why Manchin would want to create the same perception, too. But, at some point, you have to do the right thing or the country will be ruined.


When will the need of "The many outweigh the need of the few or the one" kick-in for Manchin, or will it ever? I may have him wrong but he doesn't strike me as self-serving. He may still be hanging on to the bipartisan hope. Or maybe he's a Republican in disguise.

Sooner or later, hopefully, sooner, Biden has to take the gloves off.


And how do you propose he does that?

I can't give you an answer. I'm not a politician. IMO he's too nice, to PC. I'm sure there are areas he can exploit. He's focusing on bipartisanism. Looks to me as if he's trying to woo. It's not working.

Who's the majority? Seems as though Mitch is still in control.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:35 pm    Post subject:

I think Biden & Company are setting up the GOP to screw themselves . . . in a very deliberate manner.

At least I hope so!


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:41 pm    Post subject:

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I think Biden & Company are setting up the GOP to screw themselves . . . in a very deliberate manner.

At least I hope so!



That's a possibility. If that's the plan it's a very risky strategy.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:00 pm    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
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jodeke wrote:
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Well, creating the perception that you want to work with the other side is good politically. That's one of the reasons why Biden won the election. He can't just abandon that political brand. So I understand why he's saying what he's saying.

I even understand why Manchin would want to create the same perception, too. But, at some point, you have to do the right thing or the country will be ruined.


When will the need of "The many outweigh the need of the few or the one" kick-in for Manchin, or will it ever? I may have him wrong but he doesn't strike me as self-serving. He may still be hanging on to the bipartisan hope. Or maybe he's a Republican in disguise.

Sooner or later, hopefully, sooner, Biden has to take the gloves off.


And how do you propose he does that?

I can't give you an answer. I'm not a politician. IMO he's too nice, to PC. I'm sure there are areas he can exploit. He's focusing on bipartisanism. Looks to me as if he's trying to woo. It's not working.

Who's the majority? Seems as though Mitch is still in control.


It’s quite unreasonable to criticize Biden for not doing enough or the “right” thing when you admittedly have no concrete idea as to what he could do to rectify that.

And then to point to the fact that McConnell has the ability to stifle everything Biden is trying to do because two alleged Democrats remove any leverage the Dems have as somehow being on Biden just compounds that lack of reasoning.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:02 pm    Post subject:

FernieBee wrote:
I think Biden & Company are setting up the GOP to screw themselves . . . in a very deliberate manner.

At least I hope so!



That would be a long con prone to failure with catastrophic results if it does.
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jodeke wrote:
Wilt wrote:
Well, creating the perception that you want to work with the other side is good politically. That's one of the reasons why Biden won the election. He can't just abandon that political brand. So I understand why he's saying what he's saying.

I even understand why Manchin would want to create the same perception, too. But, at some point, you have to do the right thing or the country will be ruined.


When will the need of "The many outweigh the need of the few or the one" kick-in for Manchin, or will it ever? I may have him wrong but he doesn't strike me as self-serving. He may still be hanging on to the bipartisan hope. Or maybe he's a Republican in disguise.

Sooner or later, hopefully, sooner, Biden has to take the gloves off.


And how do you propose he does that?

I can't give you an answer. I'm not a politician. IMO he's too nice, to PC. I'm sure there are areas he can exploit. He's focusing on bipartisanism. Looks to me as if he's trying to woo. It's not working.

Who's the majority? Seems as though Mitch is still in control.


It’s quite unreasonable to criticize Biden for not doing enough or the “right” thing when you admittedly have no concrete idea as to what he could do to rectify that.

And then to point to the fact that McConnell has the ability to stifle everything Biden is trying to do because two alleged Democrats remove any leverage the Dems have as somehow being on Biden just compounds that lack of reasoning.

I don't have answers.

I'm not criticizing Biden, I dislike his nice approach. I'd like him to be more assertive.

Manchin and Sinema are roadblocks. Dems have to bring them into the fold or find a way around them. How? I don't know. If I had answers I offer them.

I'm nervous watching how the minority is carrying on as though they are the majority.

If they're allowed to continue Democracy is in danger of being defeated. I'm not attempting to get into a debate, I'm speaking from a place of fear.

If Republicans become the majority with Trump as their leader, the country is in trouble.

Republicans are about power not about the people.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:27 pm    Post subject:

why cant biden just sign executive orders? he can validate them all im sure.
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