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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:47 pm    Post subject:

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FWIW, Vonleh is exactly the kind of guy you'd like to pair with Love. Ability to cover out on the perimeter and protect the rim.


Agreed. He doesn't look as explosive with the added bulk, but he still has excellent timing around the hoop to swat. He's rarely caught out of position.

The favoritism with the 3-point shot worries me a bit. I'd like to see a more diversified post game against quality NCAA comp.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:21 pm    Post subject:

He looked good today in the little I saw. Seemed like he's pretty much always in control, and as Mike said, often in the correct position.

From what I saw, I'd be happy if we drafted him.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:06 pm    Post subject:

He doesn't look to have a huge upside to me, maybe like a Horace Grant type role playing starter.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:20 pm    Post subject:

Horace Grant with a three-ball isn't a bad comparison. That would be fantastic. Would have loved to have had that this past year.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:53 pm    Post subject:

Fan0Bynum17 wrote:
He doesn't look to have a huge upside to me, maybe like a Horace Grant type role playing starter.


The added bulk seemed to hinder his athletic abilities.

Different player athletically in HS.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:03 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
Fan0Bynum17 wrote:
He doesn't look to have a huge upside to me, maybe like a Horace Grant type role playing starter.


The added bulk seemed to hinder his athletic abilities.

Different player athletically in HS.



Meh, players usually look more athletic in youtube HS clips than they do in college/NBA, and it's probably due to lowered camera angles and crappier competition.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:14 pm    Post subject:

Fan0Bynum17 wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Fan0Bynum17 wrote:
He doesn't look to have a huge upside to me, maybe like a Horace Grant type role playing starter.


The added bulk seemed to hinder his athletic abilities.

Different player athletically in HS.



Meh, players usually look more athletic in youtube HS clips than they do in college/NBA, and it's probably due to lowered camera angles and crappier competition.


The added bulk didn't help his athleticism. Every time I see him, he's a step slower and A LOT less confident in what to do offensively.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:36 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
Fan0Bynum17 wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Fan0Bynum17 wrote:
He doesn't look to have a huge upside to me, maybe like a Horace Grant type role playing starter.


The added bulk seemed to hinder his athletic abilities.

Different player athletically in HS.



Meh, players usually look more athletic in youtube HS clips than they do in college/NBA, and it's probably due to lowered camera angles and crappier competition.


The added bulk didn't help his athleticism. Every time I see him, he's a step slower and A LOT less confident in what to do offensively.


It doesn't usually help players' athleticism, but so what? Are you implying that if he drops the weight (which we have no idea if he'll do,) then he'll have much more upside?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:52 pm    Post subject:

Fan0Bynum17 wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Fan0Bynum17 wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Fan0Bynum17 wrote:
He doesn't look to have a huge upside to me, maybe like a Horace Grant type role playing starter.


The added bulk seemed to hinder his athletic abilities.

Different player athletically in HS.



Meh, players usually look more athletic in youtube HS clips than they do in college/NBA, and it's probably due to lowered camera angles and crappier competition.


The added bulk didn't help his athleticism. Every time I see him, he's a step slower and A LOT less confident in what to do offensively.


It doesn't usually help players' athleticism, but so what? Are you implying that if he drops the weight (which we have no idea if he'll do,) then he'll have much more upside?


Implying that he either grows into is body more, or finds a better way to implement his footwork along with the bulk.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:55 pm    Post subject:

Jajwanda wrote:
Horace Grant with a three-ball isn't a bad comparison. That would be fantastic. Would have loved to have had that this past year.


If you told me we could draft Horace Grant, even without three point range, I'd be ecstatic.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:02 pm    Post subject:

only has 3 FGA but makes his FTs, grabs 12 boards, gets a steal and 4 blocks. maybe he can be an undersized c like horford. horford's college #s were a lil better tho
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:04 am    Post subject:

There are a number of undersized Cs in the draft and even Jordan Hill does a great job in that role. I'm looking for more unless he's such a great pick and pop player that you can essentially have him play the open paint offense.

You would literally have a totally spread out floor from 1-5 with players dipping in and out of the paint on offense.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:38 pm    Post subject:

Kwame Brown with a 3. Bad hands and bad footwork. However, has great size and strength. He'd be best using 1 more year of college eligibility and then coming out
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:42 am    Post subject:

DD20045 wrote:
Kwame Brown with a 3. Bad hands and bad footwork. However, has great size and strength. He'd be best using 1 more year of college eligibility and then coming out


Kwame Brown 2.0 = Bust
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:14 pm    Post subject:

I think if you've got a guy that can hit the outside shot, shot-block (whether it's timing/length or explosiveness), and most of all rebound on both ends you've got the kind of C that can have an impact on Day 1.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:00 am    Post subject:

Jajwanda wrote:
I think if you've got a guy that can hit the outside shot, shot-block (whether it's timing/length or explosiveness), and most of all rebound on both ends you've got the kind of C that can have an impact on Day 1.


So, Horace Grant.
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