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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: Kobe=Ray Allen |
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For some reason Kobe doesn't get to the basket well against the Celtics and for some reason when Kobe gets the ball the whole team stands still and makes Kobe shoot a bad shot or turn it over.
So if you go back and watch every game so far this series most of Kobe's points come whenever he is shooting long 3's and jumpshots. And he is getting open like Ray Allen..by running through screens and catching,waiting a second, then shooting.
And unlike Ray Allen Kobe doesnt miss threes if he has any space. And when he gets hot he doesn't miss. And threes get the crowds out of the game Quick
Then whenever the Defense starts to cheat and double Kobe on the catch he can just zoom a pass to a wide open artest and fisher and get hockey assist. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe >>> Ray Allen, no matter how you try to spin it. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting interpretation. Ray is no Kobe Bryant, but impact wise in this series, I could see how you can come up with that conclusion. Minus the 0 for 13 of course. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe gets no calls I finally started coming to that conclusion, its crazy. So he's forced to play that way. |
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I can't name 1 play where Kobe has got a play like Ray Allen _________________ “A story about Kobe is the first time they went to be fitted for their USA uniforms and Kobe starts crying. The equipment person asks him what happened and Kobe was like, man, you don’t understand, I’ve dreamed of playing for my country." |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Legacy wrote: | Interesting interpretation. Ray is no Kobe Bryant, but impact wise in this series, I could see how you can come up with that conclusion. Minus the 0 for 13 of course. |
Some of you are just so (bleep) predictable. _________________ Lakersground: Join in, pick a player and trash all other players to make yours look better. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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ray allen is no different then any other player who tries to play tough by using the shane battier hand in the face, the bruce bowen step under player while he's in the air tactic and the world famous flop (see game 2)...in addition when kobe goes by him the celtic bigs dont foul because they are aggressive (per the announcers)....this also applies to the other allen...who we've been told is so good at taking away kobe left/right...translation, he's allowed to foul or play 80's defense (hand checks, bodying, etc)...too bad kobe cant return the favor _________________ RIP.....Pop (AJ Sr.) 7/09/23-01/20/09
Thanks for 35 years of love, sacrifice and joy...also for taking me to all the lakers games at the GW forum as a youngster and helping me understand the joy that comes from watching a lakers game |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Statcat wrote: | Legacy wrote: | Interesting interpretation. Ray is no Kobe Bryant, but impact wise in this series, I could see how you can come up with that conclusion. Minus the 0 for 13 of course. |
Some of you are just so (bleep) predictable. |
Against my better judgment, I am going to bite, and ask you if you would care to explain your statement? |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Mamba3301 wrote: | Kobe >>> Ray Allen, no matter how you try to spin it. |
I am not trying to say that Ray Allen is at all equal to Kobe. I am trying to say Kobe can become incredibly affective if he plays like Ray Allen does.....Just imagine Ray Allen x10 ![](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe has been FAR better than Allen this series.What a joke. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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KINGD wrote: | Kobe has been FAR better than Allen this series.What a joke. |
I don't think I am very good at explaining my point ![](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe is darker |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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LALtripleOcho wrote: | KINGD wrote: | Kobe has been FAR better than Allen this series.What a joke. |
I don't think I am very good at explaining my point ![](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
I think the OP is referring strictly to the manner in which Allen and Bryant have been scoring their points. Open Jumpers.
I don't really agree with that statement though. Kobe has been a lot more versatile then Allen has, you just don't notice it because he hasn't hit those shots. He's making it to the paint every game. A hell of a lot more than in 08 and thats for sure. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe's play is too predictable. He catches the ball, holds onto it for way too long, dribbles and takes a contested jumpshot. He needs to change it up and make a quick drive to the basket every once in a while. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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pdawg wrote: | Kobe's play is too predictable. He catches the ball, holds onto it for way too long, dribbles and takes a contested jumpshot. He needs to change it up and make a quick drive to the basket every once in a while. |
He is probably waiting for someone to set a pick or MOVE ![](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
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Kobe is a shell of his former self. _________________ *sighs*
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe is taking too many outside shots. I don't understand why the Lakers just won't drive to the basket- Boston HAS no shot blockers, outside of Garnett, and even Garnett doesn't go after every single shot like he used to. If the Lakers can get some type of penetration, from Kobe, Fish and especially LO, they can get better production. They can't worry about whether or not they will get the calls, just drive when the opening is there. That's it. |
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chicky baby wrote: | Kobe is taking too many outside shots. I don't understand why the Lakers just won't drive to the basket- Boston HAS no shot blockers, outside of Garnett, and even Garnett doesn't go after every single shot like he used to. If the Lakers can get some type of penetration, from Kobe, Fish and especially LO, they can get better production. They can't worry about whether or not they will get the calls, just drive when the opening is there. That's it. |
Exactly! So many good things happen when we attack the basket. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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I agree. Kobe will go 0-13 and 0-8 from 3 next game just like Ray Allen. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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bullsh...about kobe not attacking the basket. he just has guys who's allowed to handcheck him and hit him while he's shooting the f'ing ball.
of course kobe's been playing well enough on the d side of the floor that rondo has been ineffective.
otherwise i can see how kobe=ray allen...NOT! _________________ 'How many kids can say growing up that they'll turn pro and play for their favorite team in the world and spend your entire career there? IT'S BEEN A DREAM!'-Kobe Bryant 11.29.15 ![](images/smiles/icon_cry.gif) |
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