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If you're feeling all doom and gloomy, here's something you can do to help Biden get elected. While unhinged MAGAs show their complete devotion to a dangerous lying criminal and you wonder how Biden is polling even or behind that Orange POS, you can donate to help him educate the low information and swing voters between now and the election.
Donate to Joe Biden |
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| Quote: | Ruth Ben-Ghiat @ruthbenghiat (expert on authoritarians, fascism)
Trump lied with vigor and so he is the victor. Sign of a degraded democracy. #Strongmen is a chronicle of professional liars who performed beautifully and had a sophisticated sense of stagecraft, just like Trump does now. |
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Let’s be honest about the performance of the other person on the stage who, if the metrics by which we’re measuring success are honesty, policy, a vision for America, and the defense of democracy, had a debate so apocalyptically disastrous that I can’t believe that not one pundit, not one Republican official (at least none I’m aware of) has called on Donald Trump to drop out of the race. |
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When Democrats and media spend their time focused on Biden rather than the anti-democratic, pro-fascist, racist, authoritarian lunacy of Trump, his disgraceful performance vaporizes into the ether. Piling on Biden helps Trump. I don't care who is doing it. Just like in 2016, amplifying the Clinton email story helped Trump. Even if that's not the intention, it has that effect anyway. |
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| Quote: | Tristan Snell @TristanSnell
According to the Supreme Court:
Judges know more about science than scientists.
Judges know more about medicine than doctors.
Judges know more about structural safety than engineers.
Judges know more about climate change than meteorologists. |
We're already half-way to fascism. A Republican president and Project 2025 will take us the rest of the way. And then it's bye, bye democracy. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | Quote: | Ruth Ben-Ghiat @ruthbenghiat (expert on authoritarians, fascism)
Trump lied with vigor and so he is the victor. Sign of a degraded democracy. #Strongmen is a chronicle of professional liars who performed beautifully and had a sophisticated sense of stagecraft, just like Trump does now. |
| Quote: | | Quote: | Mary L. Trump @MaryLTrump
Let’s be honest about the performance of the other person on the stage who, if the metrics by which we’re measuring success are honesty, policy, a vision for America, and the defense of democracy, had a debate so apocalyptically disastrous that I can’t believe that not one pundit, not one Republican official (at least none I’m aware of) has called on Donald Trump to drop out of the race. |
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When Democrats and media spend their time focused on Biden rather than the anti-democratic, pro-fascist, racist, authoritarian lunacy of Trump, his disgraceful performance vaporizes into the ether. Piling on Biden helps Trump. I don't care who is doing it. Just like in 2016, amplifying the Clinton email story helped Trump. Even if that's not the intention, it has that effect anyway. |
Republicans are never held to the same standard and it's (bleep) infuriating. They can call democrats names like "welfare queens", "coastal elites", etc., all day, but call them deplorables once and it's the end of the world. And publications like the NYTimes are complicit in this nonsense. They NEVER call Trump out on his BS. As you said, why isn't THAT the story?? |
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Agreed. But that has been the landscape for some time now. The bar is so low for them that even a glimmer of decorum or spark of intelligence is blown out of proportion. Dems have played it too nice for too long and taken the high road too often.
Imagine if someone like Obama was out there against Trump? He'd have made him look like a complete fool even moreso than he already looks and we wouldn't be having these conversations. Instead, they stood pat... hoping to reach thru to undecideds with rhyme and reason...and they are gonna die on that hill whether it works or not.
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Anecdotal responses from Democratic/progressive Twitter and black Twitter since the debate:
Democrats, especially women, are fired up and angry at the media for viciously attacking Biden while giving Trump a pass. The NYT Op-Ed calling for Biden to step aside has been roundly ridiculed. Where was the NYT Op-Ed calling for Trump to step aside after his criminal convictions has been asked on Twitter thousands of times. People realize it's up to them alone now and this was a wake-up call. They know they have to step-up volunteering, donating, talking to friends and family, etc.
Trump's reference to immigrants coming to U.S. and "taking black jobs" has gotten almost no press but EVERY BLACK PERSON ON TWITTER AND OTHERWISE HEARD IT FOR THE RACIST BS IT IS. It became an instant meme with black people posting selfies from work "Here I am at my black job." Nurses, doctors, writers, black media, politicians, Fed-Ex drivers, you name it. Talk about riling up a hornets nest. Black Democrats are fired up to vote for Biden and stick it to that racist orange POS.
Black women, who are the most reliable voting block within the Democratic base, are OFFENDED WITH A CAPITAL O that all the pundits who think someone else should be the nominee are overlooking the actual Vice President who would of course take over for Biden if he wins and can't finish out his presidency. White male pundits longing for their preferred non-black-woman-candidate are infuriating black women and black twitter. It's the nexus of racism and misogyny, misogynoir. This has black women and black men fired up.
Democrats/progressives in general have had it with the weak-kneed hand-ringing of other Dems and pointedly telling them to buck up and get with the program because the alternative is a permanent fascist state. (I would obviously be in this group. Proudly.) |
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ChefLinda
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FINALLY: Philadelphia Inquirer: To serve his country, Donald Trump should leave the race | Editorial
| Quote: | President Joe Biden’s debate performance was a disaster. His disjointed responses and dazed look sparked calls for him to drop out of the presidential race.
But lost in the hand wringing was Donald Trump’s usual bombastic litany of lies, hyperbole, bigotry, ignorance, and fear mongering. His performance demonstrated once again that he is a danger to democracy and unfit for office.
In fact, the debate about the debate is misplaced. The only person who should withdraw from the race is Trump.
Trump, 78, has been on the political stage for eight years marked by chaos, corruption, and incivility. Why go back to that?
To build himself up, Trump constantly tears the country down. There is no shining city on the hill. It’s just mourning in America.
Throughout the debate, Trump repeatedly said we are a “failing” country. He called the United States a “third world nation.” He said, “we’re living in hell” and “very close to World War III.”
“People are dying all over the place,” Trump said, later adding “we’re literally an uncivilized country now.”
Trump told more than 30 lies during the debate to go with the more than 30,000 mistruths told during his four years as president. He dodged the CNN moderators’ questions, took no responsibility for his actions, and blamed others, mainly Biden, for everything that is wrong in the world.
Trump’s response to the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection he fueled was farcical. He said a “relatively small number of people” went to the Capitol and many were “ushered in by the police.”
After scheming to overturn the 2020 election, Trump refused to say if he would accept the results of the 2024 election. Unless, of course, he wins.
The debate served as a reminder of what another four years of Trump would look like. More lies, grievance, narcissism, and hate. Supporters say they like Trump because he says whatever he thinks. But he mainly spews raw sewage. |
| Quote: | Trump’s mismanagement of the pandemic resulted in tens of thousands of needless deaths. He boasts about stacking the Supreme Court with extreme right-wingers who are stripping away individual rights, upending legal precedents, and making the country less safe. If elected, Trump may add to the court’s conservative majority.
Of course, there were the unprecedented two impeachments. Now, Trump is a convicted felon who is staring at three more criminal indictments. He is running for president to stay out of prison.
If anything, Trump doesn’t deserve to be on the presidential debate stage. Why even give him a platform?
Trump allegedly stole classified information and tried to overturn an election. His plans for a second term are worse than the last one. We cannot be serious about letting such a crooked clown back in the White House. |
| Quote: | Yes, Biden had a horrible night. He’s 81 and not as sharp as he used to be. But Biden on his worst day remains lightyears better than Trump on his best.
Biden must show that he is up to the job. This much is clear: He has a substantive record of real accomplishments, fighting the pandemic, combating climate change, investing in infrastructure, and supporting working families and the most vulnerable.
Biden has surrounded himself with experienced people who take public service seriously. He has passed major bipartisan legislation despite a dysfunctional Republican House majority.
Biden believes in the best of America. He has rebuilt relationships with allies around the world and stood up to foes like Russia and China.
There was only one person at the debate who does not deserve to be running for president. The sooner Trump exits the stage, the better off the country will be. |
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| Quote: | Kevin Munoz @munozka315
Team Biden-Harris raised more than $27 million between debate day through Friday evening |
Sunday morning update:
| Quote: | Biden’s Wins @BidensWins
BREAKING: The Biden campaign has now raised a record setting $33 million since the debate, with over half of the donations coming from first time donors. The media is dead wrong. Democrats are enthusiastic about defeating Donald Trump and reelecting President Biden. |
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Have those wanting Biden replaced given that serious thought? There's not enough time Countdown to the election Who would you replace him with? Who has a better chance of winning? He had a bad day. After the debate his voice was strong and he was vibrant. There has to be a second debate. He has to be better prepared. The party has the money to make commercials that give him a strong presence. He has to make public appearances to show he's ready. Instead of dems complaining they should be making plans to win with President Biden.
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| jodeke wrote: | | Have those wanting Biden replaced given that serious thought? There's not enough time |
This is basically it. Also, how do you replace him without alienating half the party and more than half of the electorate? It would be chaos and potentially harmful in future elections as well.
We aren't in an ideal situation here. I think circling the wagons is the best way forward. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | Quote: | Kevin Munoz @munozka315
Team Biden-Harris raised more than $27 million between debate day through Friday evening |
Sunday morning update:
| Quote: | Biden’s Wins @BidensWins
BREAKING: The Biden campaign has now raised a record setting $33 million since the debate, with over half of the donations coming from first time donors. The media is dead wrong. Democrats are enthusiastic about defeating Donald Trump and reelecting President Biden. |
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Is it intentional or what? The media seems to be helping the Orange Turd.
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More updates from the Biden campaign:
| Quote: | Across the battlegrounds, our state campaigns have received an influx of volunteer enthusiasm and support, which we are channeling into voter outreach:
-More than three times as many people applied to work on the campaign in the 24 hours following the debate than apply on an average day.
-Post-debate, across the battlegrounds, our rate of volunteer signups was more than three times as much as an average day.
-In North Carolina, we had our largest event of the campaign of Friday, with thousands of people turning out to hear the president give strong and forceful remarks.
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As a volunteer and have been phone banking. The debate is having the opposite effect from what MSM is reporting. People are more committed to Biden/Harris. We had over 100 people phone banking we usually get 10-20. The calls are going great. |
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| jodeke wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | Quote: | Kevin Munoz @munozka315
Team Biden-Harris raised more than $27 million between debate day through Friday evening |
Sunday morning update:
| Quote: | Biden’s Wins @BidensWins
BREAKING: The Biden campaign has now raised a record setting $33 million since the debate, with over half of the donations coming from first time donors. The media is dead wrong. Democrats are enthusiastic about defeating Donald Trump and reelecting President Biden. |
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Is it intentional or what? The media seems to be helping the Orange Turd. |
Most of the corporate media is owned by rich right-leaning billionaires. They are no friend to Democracy or the average person. They want more Trump tax cuts for the rich and corporations and they want to cash in on the Trump car-crash-chaos that increases ratings and clicks and makes them more money. I finally cancelled my NYT subscription because their Op-Ed calling for Biden to step aside was the last straw. And I gave them a piece of my mind on the way out. I've seen thousands on Twitter post their NYT subscription cancellation emails. People have had it with the media. It's a replay of the 2016 smear-Hillary campaign with a thousand "but her emails!" stories. Now it's a thousand "but he's old!" stories. We have to ignore the media and ignore the polls and just do the work ourselves. Volunteer, donate, spread the truth about Biden's record. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | More updates from the Biden campaign:
| Quote: | Across the battlegrounds, our state campaigns have received an influx of volunteer enthusiasm and support, which we are channeling into voter outreach:
-More than three times as many people applied to work on the campaign in the 24 hours following the debate than apply on an average day.
-Post-debate, across the battlegrounds, our rate of volunteer signups was more than three times as much as an average day.
-In North Carolina, we had our largest event of the campaign of Friday, with thousands of people turning out to hear the president give strong and forceful remarks.
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Keep it up CL. Give me reasons to keep my Prozac in the medicine cabinet.👌🏾
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| jodeke wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | More updates from the Biden campaign:
| Quote: | Across the battlegrounds, our state campaigns have received an influx of volunteer enthusiasm and support, which we are channeling into voter outreach:
-More than three times as many people applied to work on the campaign in the 24 hours following the debate than apply on an average day.
-Post-debate, across the battlegrounds, our rate of volunteer signups was more than three times as much as an average day.
-In North Carolina, we had our largest event of the campaign of Friday, with thousands of people turning out to hear the president give strong and forceful remarks.
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Keep it up CL. Give me reasons to keep my Prozac in the medicine cabinet.👌🏾 |
I just added more to that post! Will keep posting until my last breath or they drag me off to an internment camp. /only half-joking |
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This is where I point out that in every single election about abortion rights since Roe was repealed, voters have overwhelmingly voted to keep abortion legal. This includes red states, blue states and purple states. Nevada is considered one of the swing states.
| Quote: | The Associated Press @AP
Nevada verifies enough signatures to put constitutional amendment for abortion rights on ballot |
Abortion rights will also be on the ballot in Florida. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | More updates from the Biden campaign:
| Quote: | Across the battlegrounds, our state campaigns have received an influx of volunteer enthusiasm and support, which we are channeling into voter outreach:
-More than three times as many people applied to work on the campaign in the 24 hours following the debate than apply on an average day.
-Post-debate, across the battlegrounds, our rate of volunteer signups was more than three times as much as an average day.
-In North Carolina, we had our largest event of the campaign of Friday, with thousands of people turning out to hear the president give strong and forceful remarks.
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Keep it up CL. Give me reasons to keep my Prozac in the medicine cabinet.👌🏾 |
I just added more to that post! Will keep posting until my last breath or they drag me off to an internment camp. /only half-joking |
I’m with her
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| Quote: | Stuart Stevens @stuartpstevens (former Republican strategist)
Not to get all technical but can we look at some facts?
Biden has made 18 foreign trips to 24 countries. He’s organized the largest allied military coalition since WW2.
Not once has there been a story about him not performing at high level.
Donald Trump made 19 foreign trips to 24 countries.
There were constantly stories about his buffoonery and stupidity.
This is silly pack journalism. Or better put, silly pack typing because it’s not really fair to call it journalism. |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | More updates from the Biden campaign:
| Quote: | Across the battlegrounds, our state campaigns have received an influx of volunteer enthusiasm and support, which we are channeling into voter outreach:
-More than three times as many people applied to work on the campaign in the 24 hours following the debate than apply on an average day.
-Post-debate, across the battlegrounds, our rate of volunteer signups was more than three times as much as an average day.
-In North Carolina, we had our largest event of the campaign of Friday, with thousands of people turning out to hear the president give strong and forceful remarks.
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Keep it up CL. Give me reasons to keep my Prozac in the medicine cabinet.👌🏾 |
I just added more to that post! Will keep posting until my last breath or they drag me off to an internment camp. /only half-joking |
I’m with her |
Just so I'm understanding, you guys would choose an 81 year old Joe Biden over Whitmer, Harris, Newsome, Buttigieg, Warnock or Beshear for this existential election where democracy itself is on the ballot and you're quite literally facing an authoritarian fascist dictatorship? Joe Biden is the absolute BEST that the democratic party can offer the U.S and the world? Just so I'm hearing and understanding this correctly.
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| Murdock wrote: | | Just so I'm understanding, you guys would choose an 81 year old Joe Biden over Whitmer, Harris, Newsome, Buttigieg, Warnock or Beshear for this existential election where democracy itself is on the ballot and you're quite literally facing an authoritarian fascist dictatorship? Joe Biden is the absolute BEST that the democratic party can offer the U.S and the world? Jost so I'm hearing and understanding this correctly. |
It's way too late to change course. None of those people are electable at this point.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Murdock wrote: | | Just so I'm understanding, you guys would choose an 81 year old Joe Biden over Whitmer, Harris, Newsome, Buttigieg, Warnock or Beshear for this existential election where democracy itself is on the ballot and you're quite literally facing an authoritarian fascist dictatorship? Joe Biden is the absolute BEST that the democratic party can offer the U.S and the world? Jost so I'm hearing and understanding this correctly. |
It's way too late to change course. None of those people are electable at this point. |
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| Murdock wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Murdock wrote: | | Just so I'm understanding, you guys would choose an 81 year old Joe Biden over Whitmer, Harris, Newsome, Buttigieg, Warnock or Beshear for this existential election where democracy itself is on the ballot and you're quite literally facing an authoritarian fascist dictatorship? Joe Biden is the absolute BEST that the democratic party can offer the U.S and the world? Jost so I'm hearing and understanding this correctly. |
It's way too late to change course. None of those people are electable at this point. |
We're screwed. |
Only if everybody takes that attitude and enables a Trump victory. Even an administration of a comatose Biden and Harris is 1,000% better than Trump. People nee4d to get that through their thick heads (not directed at you).
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Murdock wrote: | | Just so I'm understanding, you guys would choose an 81 year old Joe Biden over Whitmer, Harris, Newsome, Buttigieg, Warnock or Beshear for this existential election where democracy itself is on the ballot and you're quite literally facing an authoritarian fascist dictatorship? Joe Biden is the absolute BEST that the democratic party can offer the U.S and the world? Jost so I'm hearing and understanding this correctly. |
It's way too late to change course. None of those people are electable at this point. |
Yep, the Democratic primary is over. Democrats chose Biden. Switching to an untested candidate (even is that was structurally possible and I don't think it is) is political suicide.
Another wrinkle -- Red states are already threatening legal challenges to to any candidate replacing Biden and would sue to keep them off the ballot (as it might technically violate state regulations to get on the ballot).
And if you tried to pick a new candidate at the convention, it would tear the party apart (does anyone remember the Bernie Bros vs $hillary at that convention?).
People need to accept reality, band together and rally around our candidate. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Murdock wrote: | | Just so I'm understanding, you guys would choose an 81 year old Joe Biden over Whitmer, Harris, Newsome, Buttigieg, Warnock or Beshear for this existential election where democracy itself is on the ballot and you're quite literally facing an authoritarian fascist dictatorship? Joe Biden is the absolute BEST that the democratic party can offer the U.S and the world? Jost so I'm hearing and understanding this correctly. |
It's way too late to change course. None of those people are electable at this point. |
Yep, the Democratic primary is over. Democrats chose Biden. Switching to an untested candidate (even is that was structurally possible and I don't think it is) is political suicide.
Another wrinkle -- Red states are already threatening legal challenges to to any candidate replacing Biden and would sue to keep them off the ballot (as it might technically violate state regulations to get on the ballot).
And if you tried to pick a new candidate at the convention, it would tear the party apart (does anyone remember the Bernie Bros vs $hillary at that convention?).
People need to accept reality, band together and rally around our candidate. |
We just have to get through this election, defeat Trump, and never make this mistake again.
Between RBG, Feinstein, and now Biden.
We can’t let the political ambitions of octogenarians compromise the whole party. There’s too much at stake.
Fingers crossed the post debate polling in swing states is recoverable between now and November.
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