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| Omar Little wrote: | | Worth noting that younger generations are moving bluer. |
True, the problem is far too many only respond to the perfect candidate, and thus many don't vote, or if they do, they go with "protest" votes.
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It seems that escaping one type of authoritarian regime (such as state socialism in Vietnam and Cuba) and coming to the United Stats doesn't mean that you won't be attracted to another authoritarian movement (fascist Trumpism).
I've observed that with my own group that escaped war-torn Yugoslavia. Some of them even like Trump. And I'm like WTF?
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If Trump is elected I envision military insubordination. There were instances in WWII and the Korean War.
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| PLATNUM wrote: | The debate on Thursday is gonna be interesting.
Joe needs to take the gloves off and be ready for the shtt slinging and low blows Trump will inevitably unleash. Fight fire with fire. |
I just hope Joe is awake and sharp. He’s often a shell of himself at events. His handlers need to make sure he is mentally sharp. Trump is going to be throwing fire at Biden. Biden needs to be ready.
I hate Trump with my entire being. All the Trumptards will be salivating to his every word. |
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Trump's MO is interrupting, lying, and gaslighting. I've never watched a debate that had mic-muting capabilities. I hope they work. Trump will be screaming at the top of his lungs trying to interrupt Biden. It's going to be a very difficult debate to monitor. Biden will be ready for anything Trump throws his way. He's been quipping a lot lately. That's not his nature. He's tuning up for the debate. He'll go low in a gentlemanly fashion. With the mics being muted he won't have to say "Shut up man!" He'll be more than ready.
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I'm not worried about the debate. I think Biden will do fine. It's all about meeting expectations. And with all the crap Trump pushes about Biden being "senile". Biden will easily surpass expectations, and show he is far more competent than he is given credit for.
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Yeah, I'm not worried about Biden performing.
But I'm worried that CNN won't stick to the mic off rule when it's not your turn. Trump will try his best to bully and talk over.
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| PLATNUM wrote: | The debate on Thursday is gonna be interesting.
Joe needs to take the gloves off and be ready for the shtt slinging and low blows Trump will inevitably unleash. Fight fire with fire. |
Interesting is an understatement. It will be a trainwreck. You can't help but watch. |
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| Wilt wrote: | Yeah, I'm not worried about Biden performing.
But I'm worried that CNN won't stick to the mic off rule when it's not your turn. Trump will try his best to bully and talk over. |
Good point. What the hell happened to CNN?
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| Wilt wrote: | Yeah, I'm not worried about Biden performing.
But I'm worried that CNN won't stick to the mic off rule when it's not your turn. Trump will try his best to bully and talk over. |
I think the mic shutoff plan is a bad idea that plays right into Trump's hands as a "victim of lamestream media censorship". It's already playing out with his press team. They've called out CNN on the network for that very thing at least three times that I have seen. Today, they cutoff Trump's press secretary mid interview for discussing their perceived bias against Trump; that just further feeds that perception.
Personally, I think it is better for Biden if Trump is seen cutting him off with his buffoonery. Not that there are any middle of the road people who need convincing one way or the other regarding Trump, but if there are, best that they see what an out of control, nonsensical idiot he is. Silencing him may allow Biden to make is points uninterrupted, but I think that's far less significant that showing Trump for what he is. People who are truly into the facts about the issues and Biden's plans already know what's what.
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I'm all for the mic cutoff. That a little bit of discipline will be in order for the person who will become or remain the leader (or despot) of the free world is not much to ask. Also, I'm freeking tired of the media caving in to Trump's demands and his whining and shenanigans. And lastly, it could be interesting watching his mouth move with nothing coming out and seeing him get frustrated.
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| Quote: | Trump’s Allies Say They’ll Enforce the Comstock Act. Believe Them.
Until the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in 2022, it was hard for feminists to get Americans to take the threat of losing the constitutional right to abortion seriously. Describing Hillary Clinton’s inability, in 2016, to shake pro-choice voters out of their complacency, The New York Times’s Lisa Lerer and Elizabeth Dias wrote, “Internal campaign polling and focus groups showed that the issue did not resonate strongly with key groups of voters, because they did not believe Roe was truly at risk.”
It is similarly difficult to get Americans to appreciate the threat that the 19th-century Comstock Act could be resurrected. Named colloquially for the fanatical postal inspector Anthony Comstock, the 1873 act — which is actually a set of anti-vice laws — bans the mailing of “obscene, lewd, lascivious, indecent, filthy or vile” material, including devices and substances used “for producing abortion, or for any indecent or immoral purpose.” Though never repealed, it was, until recently, considered a dead letter, made moot by Supreme Court decisions on free speech, birth control and abortion.
But with Roe overturned, some in Donald Trump’s orbit see a chance to reanimate Comstock, using it to ban medication abortion — and maybe surgical abortion as well — without passing new federal legislation.
The 920-page blueprint for a second Trump administration created by Project 2025, a coalition of conservative organizations, calls for enforcing Comstock’s criminal prohibitions against using the mail — widely understood to include common carriers like UPS and FedEx — to provide or distribute abortion pills. Some MAGA legal minds believe that Comstock could also be wielded to prevent the mail from transporting tools used in surgical abortions. “We don’t need a federal ban when we have Comstock on the books,” Jonathan F. Mitchell, a crusading anti-abortion lawyer who represented Trump before the Supreme Court this year, told Lerer and Dias in February.
Conservatives know this would be enormously unpopular, which is probably why, when they talk about Comstock at all, they often refer to it by its criminal code numbers rather than its common name. (“I think the pro-life groups should keep their mouths shut as much as possible until the election,” said Mitchell.) Democrats, by contrast, need to be doing everything possible to make “Comstock” a household word. That’s why they should champion a bill introduced by Senator Tina Smith of Minnesota on Thursday to overhaul the Comstock Act. And it’s why President Biden would be wise to act on a petition from the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression to posthumously pardon one of Comstock’s high-profile victims.
Many were shocked when the Supreme Court overturned Roe two years ago, but as Smith, the former vice president of Planned Parenthood of Minnesota, told me, they shouldn’t have been, because the right made no secret of its objectives. There is something similar going on with Comstock. “Believe them when they tell us what they want to do, because they will do it if they’re given half a chance,” she said.
But getting people to believe them is a challenge. A substantial number of voters in swing states don’t even understand the role Trump played in Roe’s demise: According to a New York Times poll released last month, 17 percent of them blame Biden, since the ruling happened during his presidency. In Rolling Stone, Anat Shenker-Osorio, a senior adviser to the progressive Research Collaborative, wrote that in surveys and focus groups, disaffected Democrats and swing voters are appalled when they learn of Project 2025’s agenda, including on abortion. But a mere 21 percent of them think Republicans will actually carry it out it if they take back power. And they wonder, if the danger of Project 2025’s policies is so acute, “why Democrats don’t seem to be speaking out about them or fighting back.”
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| ribeye wrote: | | I'm all for the mic cutoff. That a little bit of discipline will be in order for the person who will become or remain the leader (or despot) of the free world is not much to ask. Also, I'm freeking tired of the media caving in to Trump's demands and his whining and shenanigans. And lastly, it could be interesting watching his mouth move with nothing coming out and seeing him get frustrated. |
Short of putting them both in sound proof booths, it's not like they are going to be able to actually silence Trump. He'll just yell, which will bleed over to Biden's mic anyway.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | I'm all for the mic cutoff. That a little bit of discipline will be in order for the person who will become or remain the leader (or despot) of the free world is not much to ask. Also, I'm freeking tired of the media caving in to Trump's demands and his whining and shenanigans. And lastly, it could be interesting watching his mouth move with nothing coming out and seeing him get frustrated. |
Short of putting them both in sound proof booths, it's not like they are going to be able to actually silence Trump. He'll just yell, which will bleed over to Biden's mic anyway. |
And that'll be fine as well.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | Yeah, I'm not worried about Biden performing.
But I'm worried that CNN won't stick to the mic off rule when it's not your turn. Trump will try his best to bully and talk over. |
I think the mic shutoff plan is a bad idea that plays right into Trump's hands as a "victim of lamestream media censorship". It's already playing out with his press team. They've called out CNN on the network for that very thing at least three times that I have seen. Today, they cutoff Trump's press secretary mid interview for discussing their perceived bias against Trump; that just further feeds that perception.
Personally, I think it is better for Biden if Trump is seen cutting him off with his buffoonery. Not that there are any middle of the road people who need convincing one way or the other regarding Trump, but if there are, best that they see what an out of control, nonsensical idiot he is. Silencing him may allow Biden to make is points uninterrupted, but I think that's far less significant that showing Trump for what he is. People who are truly into the facts about the issues and Biden's plans already know what's what. |
Anyone paying attention already knows what Trump is. To this point, it hasn't made a difference. IMO it's time to talk to intelligence. Trump's antics will showcase themselves. Maybe some of his cult will wake up.
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I know a lot of people and the media talking heads think abortion is not an issue woman will be thinking about in November, but I think they're wrong. Here's another example of how restricting abortion looks in the real world. It's cruel, vindictive and deadly. The "pro-life" party:
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The study found that the most significant driver of the increase in infant deaths was babies who died of congenital anomalies. In other words, women were forced by Texas law to have babies everyone knew would suffer and die.
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| jodeke wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | Yeah, I'm not worried about Biden performing.
But I'm worried that CNN won't stick to the mic off rule when it's not your turn. Trump will try his best to bully and talk over. |
I think the mic shutoff plan is a bad idea that plays right into Trump's hands as a "victim of lamestream media censorship". It's already playing out with his press team. They've called out CNN on the network for that very thing at least three times that I have seen. Today, they cutoff Trump's press secretary mid interview for discussing their perceived bias against Trump; that just further feeds that perception.
Personally, I think it is better for Biden if Trump is seen cutting him off with his buffoonery. Not that there are any middle of the road people who need convincing one way or the other regarding Trump, but if there are, best that they see what an out of control, nonsensical idiot he is. Silencing him may allow Biden to make is points uninterrupted, but I think that's far less significant that showing Trump for what he is. People who are truly into the facts about the issues and Biden's plans already know what's what. |
Anyone paying attention already knows what Trump is. To this point, it hasn't made a difference. IMO it's time to talk to intelligence. Trump's antics will showcase themselves. Maybe some of his cult will wake up. |
The reason I think cutting the mike helps Biden is that one of the unfair "knocks" on Biden is that even though he and Trump are both "old," Biden is often unfairly perceived as "older and weaker." His voice is often softer and more measured, he walks stiffly, while Trump is a loud mouth bully who colors his hair and wears a ton of make-up that somewhat neutralizes his perceived "oldness." (If you've ever seen a picture of Trump without that orange make-up and his hair undone under a cap, he easily looks 10-15 years older.)
By cutting Trump's mike, you remove one of the ways Trump uses his "fake strength" to seemingly overpower Biden's "fake weakness." If he bullies Biden by loudly talking over him, Biden may look weak to people (even though not engaging a toddler throwing a tantrum is the mature thing to do, that's not how dumb American voters see things).
Many swing voters don't care if Trump is a loud mouth bully, but if Biden looks "weak" it plays into the right-wing caricature of Biden as being old and senile.
This probably doesn't impact most pro-Trump and pro-Biden voters one way or the other. But people who haven't been paying attention often go by how things "feel" rather than who gave the smartest answers.
However the format works, Biden must look strong and in charge while belittling Trump's lack of knowledge about almost everything. |
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| Just wanted to add that there are a good number of political commentators on Twitter who still think Trump will find a way to back out at the last minute. Trump and his minions are already complaining about how unfair CNN and their moderators are. The right-wing is also spreading the lie (projection) that Biden will need to be pumped up on drugs to even get through the debate. And the Trump side is "fake" calling for a drug test. I think the Trump-side is actually afraid of the debate because Trump is bound to go off on some unhinged crazy rant (no matter the mike situation). They are setting ground work for Trump to back out in a huff. We'll see. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | Just wanted to add that there are a good number of political commentators on Twitter who still think Trump will find a way to back out at the last minute. Trump and his minions are already complaining about how unfair CNN and their moderators are. The right-wing is also spreading the lie (projection) that Biden will need to be pumped up on drugs to even get through the debate. And the Trump side is "fake" calling for a drug test. I think the Trump-side is actually afraid of the debate because Trump is bound to go off on some unhinged crazy rant (no matter the mike situation). They are setting ground work for Trump to back out in a huff. We'll see. |
Say yes to drug tests as long as Trump has to take them also. He doesn't want that. It's just saber rattling.
I posted a over or under 50 that Trump would back out of the debate. I don't remember the exact number but I had over he would back out. His handlers know the danger of allowing him to debate. He's too unpredictable.
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Women's civil rights took giant leaps forward in the 60s-80s when birth control, abortion and no-fault divorces were signed into law. Now Republicans - better described as right-wing-Christian-fascists - want to reverse all the decisions that contributed to women's equality. (bleep) them all to hell and back.
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In a move meant to favor wealthy men, conservative lawmakers and commentators are advocating for ending no-fault divorce, laws that exist in all 50 US states and allow a person to end a marriage without having to prove a spouse did something wrong. |
Conservative US lawmakers are pushing for an end to no-fault divorce
| Quote: | Some prominent conservative lawmakers and commentators are advocating for ending no-fault divorce, laws that exist in all 50 US states and allow a person to end a marriage without having to prove a spouse did something wrong, like commit adultery or domestic violence.
The socially conservative, and often religious, rightwing opponents of such divorce laws are arguing that the practice deprives people – mostly men – of due process and hurt families, and by extension, society. Republican lawmakers in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas have discussed eliminating or increasing restrictions on no-fault marriage laws.
Defenders of the laws, which states started passing a half-century ago, see legislation and arguments to repeal them as the latest effort to restrict women’s rights – following the overturning of Roe v Wade and passage of abortion bans around the country – and say that without such protections, the country would return to an earlier era when women were often trapped in abusive marriages.
“No-fault divorce is critical to the ability, particularly the ability of women, to be able to exercise autonomy in their own relationships, in their own lives,” said Denise Lieberman, an adjunct professor at the Washington University School of Law in St Louis, who has a specialty in policies concerning gender, sexuality and sexual violence. |
You know what else women couldn't do in the until the 70's? Have their own checking account, credit card, bank loan, or own a home without a husband to co-sign. The Republicans would repeal women's right to vote if they could -- in a hot nano-second. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | Just wanted to add that there are a good number of political commentators on Twitter who still think Trump will find a way to back out at the last minute. Trump and his minions are already complaining about how unfair CNN and their moderators are. |
Unfortunately, CNN is not helping themselves by doing things like kicking Trump's spokesperson off the morning show while trying to make that point.
| Quote: | | The right-wing is also spreading the lie (projection) that Biden will need to be pumped up on drugs to even get through the debate. And the Trump side is "fake" calling for a drug test. I think the Trump-side is actually afraid of the debate because Trump is bound to go off on some unhinged crazy rant (no matter the mike situation). They are setting ground work for Trump to back out in a huff. We'll see. |
Yeah, they know that Biden is fully capable of being on point all through the event, so the best way to continue their Sleepy Joe narrative is to claim Biden needs mediction to do so. They are also covering their bases by having Trump say that Biden is a worthy opponent they don't take lightly, so if Biden should stumble a bit, tehy can say "see! He's getting worse!"
As for him backing out, I can certainly see that as a possibility, but ultimately I think Trump's arrogance and need for attention will make him stick to it.
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | Yeah, I'm not worried about Biden performing.
But I'm worried that CNN won't stick to the mic off rule when it's not your turn. Trump will try his best to bully and talk over. |
I think the mic shutoff plan is a bad idea that plays right into Trump's hands as a "victim of lamestream media censorship". It's already playing out with his press team. They've called out CNN on the network for that very thing at least three times that I have seen. Today, they cutoff Trump's press secretary mid interview for discussing their perceived bias against Trump; that just further feeds that perception.
Personally, I think it is better for Biden if Trump is seen cutting him off with his buffoonery. Not that there are any middle of the road people who need convincing one way or the other regarding Trump, but if there are, best that they see what an out of control, nonsensical idiot he is. Silencing him may allow Biden to make is points uninterrupted, but I think that's far less significant that showing Trump for what he is. People who are truly into the facts about the issues and Biden's plans already know what's what. |
Anyone paying attention already knows what Trump is. To this point, it hasn't made a difference. IMO it's time to talk to intelligence. Trump's antics will showcase themselves. Maybe some of his cult will wake up. |
The reason I think cutting the mike helps Biden is that one of the unfair "knocks" on Biden is that even though he and Trump are both "old," Biden is often unfairly perceived as "older and weaker." His voice is often softer and more measured, he walks stiffly, while Trump is a loud mouth bully who colors his hair and wears a ton of make-up that somewhat neutralizes his perceived "oldness." (If you've ever seen a picture of Trump without that orange make-up and his hair undone under a cap, he easily looks 10-15 years older.)
By cutting Trump's mike, you remove one of the ways Trump uses his "fake strength" to seemingly overpower Biden's "fake weakness." If he bullies Biden by loudly talking over him, Biden may look weak to people (even though not engaging a toddler throwing a tantrum is the mature thing to do, that's not how dumb American voters see things).
Many swing voters don't care if Trump is a loud mouth bully, but if Biden looks "weak" it plays into the right-wing caricature of Biden as being old and senile.
This probably doesn't impact most pro-Trump and pro-Biden voters one way or the other. But people who haven't been paying attention often go by how things "feel" rather than who gave the smartest answers.
However the format works, Biden must look strong and in charge while belittling Trump's lack of knowledge about almost everything. |
Exactly, it's those apparent "undecideds" in the middle that are the X factor here. Which is why, to the point of Biden not appearing weak, having a closed mic situation can easily be spun or construed to mean that Biden is incapable of having a direct true debate and needs to shut off his opponent in order to be able to concentrate and get through his talking points. Which is exactly what Trump's team will say.
It's far better to let Biden deal with the ranting, on air Trump (which he is MORE than capable of doing)so that any viewers who may actually be watching in order to form their vote can see exactly who they are dealing wityh on each side, which would totally favor Biden to any reasonable person.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | Yeah, I'm not worried about Biden performing.
But I'm worried that CNN won't stick to the mic off rule when it's not your turn. Trump will try his best to bully and talk over. |
I think the mic shutoff plan is a bad idea that plays right into Trump's hands as a "victim of lamestream media censorship". It's already playing out with his press team. They've called out CNN on the network for that very thing at least three times that I have seen. Today, they cutoff Trump's press secretary mid interview for discussing their perceived bias against Trump; that just further feeds that perception.
Personally, I think it is better for Biden if Trump is seen cutting him off with his buffoonery. Not that there are any middle of the road people who need convincing one way or the other regarding Trump, but if there are, best that they see what an out of control, nonsensical idiot he is. Silencing him may allow Biden to make is points uninterrupted, but I think that's far less significant that showing Trump for what he is. People who are truly into the facts about the issues and Biden's plans already know what's what. |
Anyone paying attention already knows what Trump is. To this point, it hasn't made a difference. IMO it's time to talk to intelligence. Trump's antics will showcase themselves. Maybe some of his cult will wake up. |
The reason I think cutting the mike helps Biden is that one of the unfair "knocks" on Biden is that even though he and Trump are both "old," Biden is often unfairly perceived as "older and weaker." His voice is often softer and more measured, he walks stiffly, while Trump is a loud mouth bully who colors his hair and wears a ton of make-up that somewhat neutralizes his perceived "oldness." (If you've ever seen a picture of Trump without that orange make-up and his hair undone under a cap, he easily looks 10-15 years older.)
By cutting Trump's mike, you remove one of the ways Trump uses his "fake strength" to seemingly overpower Biden's "fake weakness." If he bullies Biden by loudly talking over him, Biden may look weak to people (even though not engaging a toddler throwing a tantrum is the mature thing to do, that's not how dumb American voters see things).
Many swing voters don't care if Trump is a loud mouth bully, but if Biden looks "weak" it plays into the right-wing caricature of Biden as being old and senile.
This probably doesn't impact most pro-Trump and pro-Biden voters one way or the other. But people who haven't been paying attention often go by how things "feel" rather than who gave the smartest answers.
However the format works, Biden must look strong and in charge while belittling Trump's lack of knowledge about almost everything. |
Exactly, it's those apparent "undecideds" in the middle that are the X factor here. Which is why, to the point of Biden not appearing weak, having a closed mic situation can easily be spun or construed to mean that Biden is incapable of having a direct true debate and needs to shut off his opponent in order to be able to concentrate and get through his talking points. Which is exactly what Trump's team will say.
It's far better to let Biden deal with the ranting, on air Trump (which he is MORE than capable of doing)so that any viewers who may actually be watching in order to form their vote can see exactly who they are dealing wityh on each side, which would totally favor Biden to any reasonable person. |
Key phrase (any reasonable person) Tumptards are not reasonable.
Is the debate to decide who can outshout who or who's best qualified to lead the country? Trump's minions comprise around 30% of voters leaving Biden with 70%. The reaching of the many outweighs the need to reach the few. Giving in to Trump's tactics is a win for him. Cut the mics, see who's qualified to run the country not who can outshout who. My concern is Trump will try to shout over Biden's mike time. I'm anxious to see if the muting is effective. Will the moderator be able to control Trump? Jake Tapper has his job cut out for him.
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Is there anyone even remotely excited about the debate? More fear than anything knowing how shallow we are as a nation. Zero chance I watch, and just hope the responses will be:
A) Joe was presidential
B) neither guy changed minds
Or
C) wow! Trump cost himself of ever being elected and should probably leave the country.
D) damn, trump is senile
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| Halflife wrote: | Is there anyone even remotely excited about the debate? More fear than anything knowing how shallow we are as a nation. Zero chance I watch, and just hope the responses will be:
A) Joe was presidential
B) neither guy changed minds
Or
C) wow! Trump cost himself of ever being elected and should probably leave the country.
D) damn, trump is senile |
SNL will have some new material for their show. |
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