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LakerJam
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | We need to spend the picks now. We need to do "whatever" it takes to maximize the chances of winning the championship with the current roster.
Saving the draft picks should be fine for a team that isn't contending like the Rockets or the Blazers. It is very difficult to get a team to "contending" status so we should make the most of our current opportunity.
The draft picks have such a low chance of success though. Just look at this draft, most players are useless. Don't look at Foston and think that could be replicated...lol. |
You use the picks for a serious impact upgrade, not for a 34 year old player, coming off a torn achilles and a torn ACL. The Lakers have already said a zillion times that they would happily give up the picks for a STAR, not a quality role player and that's the right call.
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Lucky_Shot
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerJam wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | 27 wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | JPaulK0n wrote: | | Quote: | “The Lakers & LeBron don’t have the same priorities.” -Windhorst on ESPN
He did say LeBron loves being a Laker. They just drafted his son and he’ll probably now sign for $160 mil dollars.
Also said Lakers gave Max Christie a 4 year deal. Rob told everyone they want to develop young players. Lakers aren’t trading draft picks like the Mavs did for Klay. |
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That's a man that has figured out the value of a first round pick. It must be hard with all of laker nation applying pressure on him to spend them. But he's thinking two steps ahead. If we are giving up picks we better be getting a star in their prime, anything else isn't worth a first round.
Suck there's been no action but we have not sold the future for something marginally better. Let's keep that going Pelinka. The future is sooner than you think, it's coming like a 39 year old freight train |
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Do you really have faith in Pelinka handling the rebuild with all those draft picks? I don't. We would have to hire someone like Myers in order for me to go along with the rebuild. |
Yes, I do. |
I have faith in our college scouting department more than anything else. The one thing we can do is find diamonds in the ruff |
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LakerFan1987
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| Denny_Russo wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | deal wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | We prioritized an injury proned 34 year old that plays the same position as a promising rookie we've just drafted and then missed out on a player that would have filled our most urgent needs in Jonas.
It wasn't a coincidence that Pelinka nearly dismantled our championship winning roster. |
Note that is the only time Pelinka has done something LeBron wanted.
Other than draft his son at 55. |
Nah, as far as I know Westbrick was the only player that was influenced by Lebron. Pelinka already tore down the championship team before that. That was why Lebron wanted to intervene the next year with the Westbrick trade. He saw Rob's incompetence and said "enough is enough". |
Lebron is Klutch and Klutch is LeBron. Bron has had his hands all over
this club from the get go. |
Agreed. Thanks to LeKlutch we have won championship #17. Without their help, we'd be stuck at 16 championships with Brandon freaking Ingram and DLo and Lonzo Bust enjoying his paycheck at home. |
Bron was in the lotto before the AD trade and none of those players you mentioned are busts. |
LOL
- Ingram, he's good but so good that Pelicans don't want to give him that big pay day?
- Lonzo, if he's not a BUST, I don't know what is
- DLO, lets not kid ourselves |
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miggz23
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| Reds622 wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | 27 wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | JPaulK0n wrote: | | Quote: | “The Lakers & LeBron don’t have the same priorities.” -Windhorst on ESPN
He did say LeBron loves being a Laker. They just drafted his son and he’ll probably now sign for $160 mil dollars.
Also said Lakers gave Max Christie a 4 year deal. Rob told everyone they want to develop young players. Lakers aren’t trading draft picks like the Mavs did for Klay. |
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That's a man that has figured out the value of a first round pick. It must be hard with all of laker nation applying pressure on him to spend them. But he's thinking two steps ahead. If we are giving up picks we better be getting a star in their prime, anything else isn't worth a first round.
Suck there's been no action but we have not sold the future for something marginally better. Let's keep that going Pelinka. The future is sooner than you think, it's coming like a 39 year old freight train |
THIS. |
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Do you really have faith in Pelinka handling the rebuild with all those draft picks? I don't. We would have to hire someone like Myers in order for me to go along with the rebuild. |
Yes, I do. |
I have faith in Pelinka too. Not sure where all the hate comes from around here from some posters. We all know about the one Clippers fan who hates the entire front office, but some of the others who hate Pelinka I don’t really get. Does he deserve the blame for the Westbrook fiasco? His two stars were pushing him to do it. I don’t blame him for that one.
I do blame him for giving Reddish and Wood player options. Although, that’s probably pretty minimal impact at this point. And I blame him for HAM if that what his hire. Although, he was the IT assistant at the time. Probably learned his lesson on that one. |
Been discussed many times...
At the end of the day, Lebron and AD are not the ones negotiating and making deals. Rob still call the shots and finalizes any deals that happens or fails. FO and Klutch relationship been I give, and now you give. Which has not worked. FO has to pick a lane. Rebuild or fully invest in your stars. Not this middle ground bs.
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LakerJam
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | 27 wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | JPaulK0n wrote: | | Quote: | “The Lakers & LeBron don’t have the same priorities.” -Windhorst on ESPN
He did say LeBron loves being a Laker. They just drafted his son and he’ll probably now sign for $160 mil dollars.
Also said Lakers gave Max Christie a 4 year deal. Rob told everyone they want to develop young players. Lakers aren’t trading draft picks like the Mavs did for Klay. |
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That's a man that has figured out the value of a first round pick. It must be hard with all of laker nation applying pressure on him to spend them. But he's thinking two steps ahead. If we are giving up picks we better be getting a star in their prime, anything else isn't worth a first round.
Suck there's been no action but we have not sold the future for something marginally better. Let's keep that going Pelinka. The future is sooner than you think, it's coming like a 39 year old freight train |
THIS. |
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Do you really have faith in Pelinka handling the rebuild with all those draft picks? I don't. We would have to hire someone like Myers in order for me to go along with the rebuild. |
Yes, I do. |
I have faith in our college scouting department more than anything else. The one thing we can do is find diamonds in the ruff |
True that! And we can get very lucky when a high lottery talent with a great skillset and a dog like mentality, falls right to us. 😉 |
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LakerFan1987
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| Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | 27 wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | JPaulK0n wrote: | | Quote: | “The Lakers & LeBron don’t have the same priorities.” -Windhorst on ESPN
He did say LeBron loves being a Laker. They just drafted his son and he’ll probably now sign for $160 mil dollars.
Also said Lakers gave Max Christie a 4 year deal. Rob told everyone they want to develop young players. Lakers aren’t trading draft picks like the Mavs did for Klay. |
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That's a man that has figured out the value of a first round pick. It must be hard with all of laker nation applying pressure on him to spend them. But he's thinking two steps ahead. If we are giving up picks we better be getting a star in their prime, anything else isn't worth a first round.
Suck there's been no action but we have not sold the future for something marginally better. Let's keep that going Pelinka. The future is sooner than you think, it's coming like a 39 year old freight train |
THIS. |
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Do you really have faith in Pelinka handling the rebuild with all those draft picks? I don't. We would have to hire someone like Myers in order for me to go along with the rebuild. |
Yes, I do. |
I have faith in our college scouting department more than anything else. The one thing we can do is find diamonds in the ruff |
Me too, like JHS over Jaime and Podz and Cam
Of course Maxwell Lewis over Trayce Jackson-Davis (probably answer our issues at the 5 for a while). |
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| Knecht4 wrote: | | I do want to get rid of one of Hayes or Wood and pick up Wiseman |
Since JJ has a relationship with Hayes I can see them moving Wood. |
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miggz23
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| King Randle wrote: | | Knecht4 wrote: | | I do want to get rid of one of Hayes or Wood and pick up Wiseman |
Since JJ has a relationship with Hayes I can see them moving Wood. |
Wood fits what JJ is trying to do... A stretch big who can shoot. |
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Knecht4
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| King Randle wrote: | | Knecht4 wrote: | | I do want to get rid of one of Hayes or Wood and pick up Wiseman |
Since JJ has a relationship with Hayes I can see them moving Wood. |
I would prefer they get rid of wood since Hayes provides athleticism
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| miggz23 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Knecht4 wrote: | | I do want to get rid of one of Hayes or Wood and pick up Wiseman |
Since JJ has a relationship with Hayes I can see them moving Wood. |
Wood fits what JJ is trying to do... A stretch big who can shoot. |
Not when he was fat and couldn't move
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| Knecht4 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Knecht4 wrote: | | I do want to get rid of one of Hayes or Wood and pick up Wiseman |
Since JJ has a relationship with Hayes I can see them moving Wood. |
I would prefer they get rid of wood since Hayes provides athleticism |
Hayes started to figure out how to be useful on offense as the season went on too. He got really good at reading baseline cuts to the rim for easy lobs |
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LakerJam
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For the money they're being paid, I'm fine with Hayes and Wood, but we still need a big, physical center. That would give us a Center who can shoot from outside and blocks some shots (Wood), an athletic freak, lob threat hustle guy (Hayes) and a big, physical Center to go against the likes of Jokic, Embiid, etc. ( ? ).
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| I like Gordon Hayward if they can dump Cam to open a roster spot. |
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Lucky_Shot
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | 27 wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | JPaulK0n wrote: | | Quote: | “The Lakers & LeBron don’t have the same priorities.” -Windhorst on ESPN
He did say LeBron loves being a Laker. They just drafted his son and he’ll probably now sign for $160 mil dollars.
Also said Lakers gave Max Christie a 4 year deal. Rob told everyone they want to develop young players. Lakers aren’t trading draft picks like the Mavs did for Klay. |
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That's a man that has figured out the value of a first round pick. It must be hard with all of laker nation applying pressure on him to spend them. But he's thinking two steps ahead. If we are giving up picks we better be getting a star in their prime, anything else isn't worth a first round.
Suck there's been no action but we have not sold the future for something marginally better. Let's keep that going Pelinka. The future is sooner than you think, it's coming like a 39 year old freight train |
THIS. |
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Do you really have faith in Pelinka handling the rebuild with all those draft picks? I don't. We would have to hire someone like Myers in order for me to go along with the rebuild. |
Yes, I do. |
I have faith in our college scouting department more than anything else. The one thing we can do is find diamonds in the ruff |
Me too, like JHS over Jaime and Podz and Cam
Of course Maxwell Lewis over Trayce Jackson-Davis (probably answer our issues at the 5 for a while). |
You forgot to mention: Randle Nance Kuzma Dlo AC Reaves Ingram Hart Zubac. I know that's over two general managers but it's always been the same department |
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Trying to take a deep breath, Klay is the only major target that's now officially off the board.
DeRozan and every regular trade option is still on the table. It's rough, but we have to keep that in mind... for now.
Watch all those opportunities dry up tomorrow.  |
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LakerJam
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| Knecht4 wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Knecht4 wrote: | | I do want to get rid of one of Hayes or Wood and pick up Wiseman |
Since JJ has a relationship with Hayes I can see them moving Wood. |
Wood fits what JJ is trying to do... A stretch big who can shoot. |
Not when he was fat and couldn't move |
Christian Wood was never "fat" last season, so what are you talking about? |
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Knecht4
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| carjoch831 wrote: | | I like Gordon Hayward if they can dump Cam to open a roster spot. |
That would be good also.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | 27 wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | JPaulK0n wrote: | | Quote: | “The Lakers & LeBron don’t have the same priorities.” -Windhorst on ESPN
He did say LeBron loves being a Laker. They just drafted his son and he’ll probably now sign for $160 mil dollars.
Also said Lakers gave Max Christie a 4 year deal. Rob told everyone they want to develop young players. Lakers aren’t trading draft picks like the Mavs did for Klay. |
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That's a man that has figured out the value of a first round pick. It must be hard with all of laker nation applying pressure on him to spend them. But he's thinking two steps ahead. If we are giving up picks we better be getting a star in their prime, anything else isn't worth a first round.
Suck there's been no action but we have not sold the future for something marginally better. Let's keep that going Pelinka. The future is sooner than you think, it's coming like a 39 year old freight train |
THIS. |
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Do you really have faith in Pelinka handling the rebuild with all those draft picks? I don't. We would have to hire someone like Myers in order for me to go along with the rebuild. |
Yes, I do. |
I have faith in our college scouting department more than anything else. The one thing we can do is find diamonds in the ruff |
Me too, like JHS over Jaime and Podz and Cam
Of course Maxwell Lewis over Trayce Jackson-Davis (probably answer our issues at the 5 for a while). |
They had such a god awful draft last year. |
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Knecht4
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| LakerJam wrote: | | Knecht4 wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Knecht4 wrote: | | I do want to get rid of one of Hayes or Wood and pick up Wiseman |
Since JJ has a relationship with Hayes I can see them moving Wood. |
Wood fits what JJ is trying to do... A stretch big who can shoot. |
Not when he was fat and couldn't move |
Christian Wood was never "fat" last season, so what are you talking about? |
He was out of shape and it was noticeable. I think he even admitted he came into the season out of shape
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| levon wrote: | | LakerFan1987 wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | 27 wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | JPaulK0n wrote: | | Quote: | “The Lakers & LeBron don’t have the same priorities.” -Windhorst on ESPN
He did say LeBron loves being a Laker. They just drafted his son and he’ll probably now sign for $160 mil dollars.
Also said Lakers gave Max Christie a 4 year deal. Rob told everyone they want to develop young players. Lakers aren’t trading draft picks like the Mavs did for Klay. |
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That's a man that has figured out the value of a first round pick. It must be hard with all of laker nation applying pressure on him to spend them. But he's thinking two steps ahead. If we are giving up picks we better be getting a star in their prime, anything else isn't worth a first round.
Suck there's been no action but we have not sold the future for something marginally better. Let's keep that going Pelinka. The future is sooner than you think, it's coming like a 39 year old freight train |
THIS. |
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Do you really have faith in Pelinka handling the rebuild with all those draft picks? I don't. We would have to hire someone like Myers in order for me to go along with the rebuild. |
Yes, I do. |
I have faith in our college scouting department more than anything else. The one thing we can do is find diamonds in the ruff |
Me too, like JHS over Jaime and Podz and Cam
Of course Maxwell Lewis over Trayce Jackson-Davis (probably answer our issues at the 5 for a while). |
They had such a god awful draft last year. |
JHS over Jaime, Podz or Cam is such a cope take. We've seen zero evidence that he's on either of their levels |
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| LakerJam wrote: | | For the money they're being paid, I'm fine with Hayes and Wood, but we still need a big, physical center. That would give us a Center who can shoot from outside and blocks some shots (Wood), an athletic freak, lob threat hustle guy (Hayes) and a big, physical Center to go against the likes of Jokic, Embiid, etc. ( ? ). |
I'm looking at the Bucks roster and they want a wing defender and look like a back up PG.
BroLo makes $23m...
Gabe/Vando/Cam might get it done. |
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Knecht4
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| miggz23 wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | For the money they're being paid, I'm fine with Hayes and Wood, but we still need a big, physical center. That would give us a Center who can shoot from outside and blocks some shots (Wood), an athletic freak, lob threat hustle guy (Hayes) and a big, physical Center to go against the likes of Jokic, Embiid, etc. ( ? ). |
I'm looking at the Bucks roster and they want a wing defender and look like a back up PG.
BroLo makes $23m...
Gabe/Vando/Cam might get it done. |
Why would we trade our 2 best wing and poa defenders?
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| Knecht4 wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | For the money they're being paid, I'm fine with Hayes and Wood, but we still need a big, physical center. That would give us a Center who can shoot from outside and blocks some shots (Wood), an athletic freak, lob threat hustle guy (Hayes) and a big, physical Center to go against the likes of Jokic, Embiid, etc. ( ? ). |
I'm looking at the Bucks roster and they want a wing defender and look like a back up PG.
BroLo makes $23m...
Gabe/Vando/Cam might get it done. |
Why would we trade our 2 best wing and poa defenders? |
im not giving all our defenders up for lopez. |
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miggz23
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| Knecht4 wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | LakerJam wrote: | | For the money they're being paid, I'm fine with Hayes and Wood, but we still need a big, physical center. That would give us a Center who can shoot from outside and blocks some shots (Wood), an athletic freak, lob threat hustle guy (Hayes) and a big, physical Center to go against the likes of Jokic, Embiid, etc. ( ? ). |
I'm looking at the Bucks roster and they want a wing defender and look like a back up PG.
BroLo makes $23m...
Gabe/Vando/Cam might get it done. |
Why would we trade our 2 best wing and poa defenders? |
Who do you suggest? Bucks wants to get faster on defense and also looking for a solid back up PG. |
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Jonas would have been more valuable than Lopez and Lopez gets paid twice as much now.
If Lopez was still a capable defender it'd be something but he's not.
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