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| Derozan functions much better surrounded by shooters. I don't think this is the right offense for him. Any possessions where he's not setting up the offense means defenses sagging off of him to crowd AD/Lebron. |
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anth2000
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What would a good off season look like for everyone here?
Vuc?
DD?
Klay?
Lopez? |
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Balto
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| ocho wrote: | | CamReddish wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Really would love to find a way to get Kessler. |
Is he worth a 1st? |
I think so. Utah seems like a trade partner for us. Can trade a salary into their cap space for Kessler and a pick. Also have the option to remove the protections on the 27 pick. |
Then do DLO or Rui to Jazz plus a 1st for Kessler. This would also open up enough money for Klay or DeRozan. |
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miggz23
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| 27 wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | Get Bridges (or Johnson) and Vuc. Why would we want to off assets to get Klay? Klay is good for the MLE and no assets. |
hate to tell you but Vuc is locked up in a new deal with the Wizards. 3yr/30M.
My assumption is Lakers didn't reach out to him for whatever reason. Hard to believe he'd to to the wizards if any other team, let alone the Lakers, reached out. |
I think you meant Jonas Valenciunas signed with the Wizards |
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| Halflife wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I’m starting to warm up to DeRozan in a big way, and if we can get a nice starting C as a follow up move I would be jumping for joy |
We have a starting center |
And what the hell do we have whenever AD is not on the court? It is absolutely a need. Hayes offers about as much rim protection as I do. We literally had Rui playing small ball 5 at times. It's a need. |
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If the situation that's been floating around is that Portland is trying to unload Jerami Grant's contract and the Lakers are offering Rui Hachimura, Gabe Vincent, Cam Reddish along with a pick for him. Would you take it?
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miggz23
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| MJST wrote: | | If the situation that's been floating around is that Portland is trying to unload Jerami Grant's contract and the Lakers are offering Rui Hachimura, Gabe Vincent, Cam Reddish along with a pick for him. Would you take it? |
I think Grant is almost a neutral move… Much older and rebounds the ball worse than Rui. |
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| MJST wrote: | | If the situation that's been floating around is that Portland is trying to unload Jerami Grant's contract and the Lakers are offering Rui Hachimura, Gabe Vincent, Cam Reddish along with a pick for him. Would you take it? |
absolutely.
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Derozan functions much better surrounded by shooters. I don't think this is the right offense for him. Any possessions where he's not setting up the offense means defenses sagging off of him to crowd AD/Lebron. |
Chicago ranked 20th in 3% compared to the Lakers at 8th.
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jb2
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| MJST wrote: | | If the situation that's been floating around is that Portland is trying to unload Jerami Grant's contract and the Lakers are offering Rui Hachimura, Gabe Vincent, Cam Reddish along with a pick for him. Would you take it? |
Depending on the pick... yes. IMO must have hard protections on it. If so, I would like that roster a lot - especially if it meant Klay would take MLE and discount for Bron. |
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pjiddy
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| manlisten wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Derozan functions much better surrounded by shooters. I don't think this is the right offense for him. Any possessions where he's not setting up the offense means defenses sagging off of him to crowd AD/Lebron. |
Chicago ranked 20th in 3% compared to the Lakers at 8th. |
Considering JJ wants more 3 pointers to us up from our league bottom frequency, adding Derozan really doens't make sense. It only makes sense from a "Rob looking like he got someone" perspective. |
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manlisten
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| pjiddy wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Derozan functions much better surrounded by shooters. I don't think this is the right offense for him. Any possessions where he's not setting up the offense means defenses sagging off of him to crowd AD/Lebron. |
Chicago ranked 20th in 3% compared to the Lakers at 8th. |
Considering JJ wants more 3 pointers to us up from our league bottom frequency, adding Derozan really doens't make sense. It only makes sense from a "Rob looking like he got someone" perspective. |
That's a different point than the one you originally made. But one player alone isn't going to fix the 3 point shooting volume.
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| QuadDouble wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | If the situation that's been floating around is that Portland is trying to unload Jerami Grant's contract and the Lakers are offering Rui Hachimura, Gabe Vincent, Cam Reddish along with a pick for him. Would you take it? |
absolutely. |
Keep the pick and give them JHS. Grant is on a bad deal, and he seems to be good numbers bad team type of player.
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | Yama wrote: | https://x.com/wojespn/status/1807823591125254247?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1807823591125254247%7Ctwgr%5E30eae6632349615ed5ef4e68f0beb94f6e8769c3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2F1dsya0y%2F%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse
Even bostons owner knows he doesn’t have enough money to compete in todays nba, it’s time Jeanie |
So they paid everyone and leave 400 m tax bill next season to the next owner, lol |
400 million luxury tax is just another tax write off for the rich. |
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| manlisten wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Derozan functions much better surrounded by shooters. I don't think this is the right offense for him. Any possessions where he's not setting up the offense means defenses sagging off of him to crowd AD/Lebron. |
Chicago ranked 20th in 3% compared to the Lakers at 8th. |
read that wrong, ignore
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| miggz23 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | If the situation that's been floating around is that Portland is trying to unload Jerami Grant's contract and the Lakers are offering Rui Hachimura, Gabe Vincent, Cam Reddish along with a pick for him. Would you take it? |
I think Grant is almost a neutral move… Much older and rebounds the ball worse than Rui. |
definitely not a rebounding or defense guy if you're into that kind of thing. I prefer to keep Rui at half the cost. |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | 27 wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | Get Bridges (or Johnson) and Vuc. Why would we want to off assets to get Klay? Klay is good for the MLE and no assets. |
hate to tell you but Vuc is locked up in a new deal with the Wizards. 3yr/30M.
My assumption is Lakers didn't reach out to him for whatever reason. Hard to believe he'd to to the wizards if any other team, let alone the Lakers, reached out. |
I think you meant Jonas Valenciunas signed with the Wizards |
yup, i mixed them right up. sorry about that |
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| defense wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Derozan functions much better surrounded by shooters. I don't think this is the right offense for him. Any possessions where he's not setting up the offense means defenses sagging off of him to crowd AD/Lebron. |
Chicago ranked 20th in 3% compared to the Lakers at 8th. |
Attempts
percentage
Makes
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Chicago attempted 1 more 3 than the Lakers per game. Derozan functioned just fine.
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| MJST wrote: | | If the situation that's been floating around is that Portland is trying to unload Jerami Grant's contract and the Lakers are offering Rui Hachimura, Gabe Vincent, Cam Reddish along with a pick for him. Would you take it? |
Naw.
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No rumor of which players and to which team are we trying to clear the salaries for Klay?
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miggz23
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| defense wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | If the situation that's been floating around is that Portland is trying to unload Jerami Grant's contract and the Lakers are offering Rui Hachimura, Gabe Vincent, Cam Reddish along with a pick for him. Would you take it? |
I think Grant is almost a neutral move… Much older and rebounds the ball worse than Rui. |
definitely not a rebounding or defense guy if you're into that kind of thing. I prefer to keep Rui at half the cost. |
Yea that also… Grant numbers are also as a Top2 option on that team… His numbers will go down a lot here being the 4th option. People here complain about how bad of a rebounder Rui is. Wait until you see Grant.
Rui’s number as a 5th option starter on this team is really efficient. |
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| ocho wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | If the situation that's been floating around is that Portland is trying to unload Jerami Grant's contract and the Lakers are offering Rui Hachimura, Gabe Vincent, Cam Reddish along with a pick for him. Would you take it? |
Naw. |
Grant is one of those players who people think is good because he scores well, but he is actually a negative player based on quite a few advanced stats. He is also overpaid. |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | defense wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | If the situation that's been floating around is that Portland is trying to unload Jerami Grant's contract and the Lakers are offering Rui Hachimura, Gabe Vincent, Cam Reddish along with a pick for him. Would you take it? |
I think Grant is almost a neutral move… Much older and rebounds the ball worse than Rui. |
definitely not a rebounding or defense guy if you're into that kind of thing. I prefer to keep Rui at half the cost. |
Yea that also… Grant numbers are also as a Top2 option on that team… His numbers will go down a lot here being the 4th option. People here complain about how bad of a rebounder Rui is. Wait until you see Grant.
Rui’s number as a 5th option starter on this team is really efficient. |
Maybe but how else can we sign anyone? You gotta trade 2 or 3 for 1 to open some spots. |
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The only time Chicago has won in the last few years was the 35 games when Lonzo was healthy and they went 22-13
Other than that with Lavine and DeRozan they have been sub .500 |
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