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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:08 am    Post subject:

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Lakers were extremely lucky that Dlo opted in.. keeps their options open.

It buys them time to wait for the right move.

Lucky how? Dude had zero market last year outside of us. No one appeared to want him via trade last year. Now he has value. 18m expiring. He made himself valuable. My guess is if traded he goes to a tanking team, because they know he’s not good enough to mess a tank up, but gives you hollow numbers to make it look like you aren’t tanking.


So what exactly do you disagree with?

That’s exactly my point. They can trade him.

He could have gotten more guaranteed money if he opted out. He decided to opt in and wait.. to the Lakers benefit.

He was never going to opt out. This is all he had. It wasn’t luck, it would have been a horrible business decision for him to do so. Maybe that is luck, that he’s smart enough to know he’s not highly regarded. So I guess you are right. Bobby marks after we were eliminated suggested maybe the Magic could offer him 11m per for a few years, but there was never a market outside of a salary dump for a guy who has numbers. That tells you everything you need to know about dlo. On paper he should be a 25-30 m per highly valued guy.


Don’t think you can really say that.. you have no idea what his market could have looked like. He probably could have gotten more guaranteed money.. at a lesser salary.

Or he could have opted out strictly out of spite. He was in trade rumors all year. Hurt feelings might cloud one’s judgment.. especially when you have already made 100+ million in your career. So no, I don’t think it was a guarantee that he would opt in. I think it was 50-50 at best.

The Lakers are lucky to keep the asset. If he walks you have no way to replace his salary slot.
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ESPN Sources: Nine-time All-Star G Russell Westbrook is picking up his $4 million option and returning to the Los Angeles Clippers. Westbrook averaged 11.1 points, 5 rebounds and 4.5 assists a season ago.


yeah cuz no one else wants him lol
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:22 am    Post subject:

I have a feeling we’re gonna try getting Paul George if he doesn’t come to a extension agreement with the Clippers
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I have a feeling we’re gonna try getting Paul George if he doesn’t come to a extension agreement with the Clippers


We have $27m expiring, need to flip that for a Looney/CP3 non guarantees and still need to dump either Gabe or Rui contract but that should save AR and enough for MaxC with a Bron discount. I’ve been wondering what the numbers would look like
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:37 am    Post subject:

Rob needs to do his best to get either Jonas V or trade for Vuecevic. We don’t need a perfect home run superstar like he keeps saying. If he misses again on getting us a center he should be fired
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:41 am    Post subject:

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Rob needs to do his best to get either Jonas V or trade for Vuecevic. We don’t need a perfect home run superstar like he keeps saying. If he misses again on getting us a center he should be fired


If people thought Marc Gasol was washed, wait till you see 34 year old Vucevic plodding around shooting 32% from 3. He is washed and rinsed.
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Rob needs to do his best to get either Jonas V or trade for Vuecevic. We don’t need a perfect home run superstar like he keeps saying. If he misses again on getting us a center he should be fired


If people thought Marc Gasol was washed, wait till you see 34 year old Vucevic plodding around shooting 32% from 3. He is washed and rinsed.


Put em on the drying rack! I never watch the guy play, I just love your one liner lol
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:55 am    Post subject:

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Rob needs to do his best to get either Jonas V or trade for Vuecevic. We don’t need a perfect home run superstar like he keeps saying. If he misses again on getting us a center he should be fired


If people thought Marc Gasol was washed, wait till you see 34 year old Vucevic plodding around shooting 32% from 3. He is washed and rinsed.


LMAO. Dude put up 18/11 on low usage playing behind DD/Lavine. Did his 3 point% drop from previous years? Ok. But stop acting like homie is all decrepit and ish. lol.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:56 am    Post subject:

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Rob needs to do his best to get either Jonas V or trade for Vuecevic. We don’t need a perfect home run superstar like he keeps saying. If he misses again on getting us a center he should be fired


If people thought Marc Gasol was washed, wait till you see 34 year old Vucevic plodding around shooting 32% from 3. He is washed and rinsed.


He’s not washed. I watch Bulls games due to my wife being a fan. He played incredibly good vs jokic this season and in his career. He’s still way better than any C we’ve had next to AD
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Rob needs to do his best to get either Jonas V or trade for Vuecevic. We don’t need a perfect home run superstar like he keeps saying. If he misses again on getting us a center he should be fired


If people thought Marc Gasol was washed, wait till you see 34 year old Vucevic plodding around shooting 32% from 3. He is washed and rinsed.


LMAO. Dude put up 18/11 on low usage playing behind DD/Lavine. Did his 3 point% drop from previous years? Ok. But stop acting look homie is all decrepit and ish. lol.


It’s obvious he doesn’t watch Nikola play. He’s still a damn good starting C with great positional defense and rebounding. He also can hit 3s and long jumpers. Perfect fit next to AD
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:01 am    Post subject:

How do we feel about Wendell carter? Haven’t seen much magic basketball? Jonathan Isaac as well
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Rob needs to do his best to get either Jonas V or trade for Vuecevic. We don’t need a perfect home run superstar like he keeps saying. If he misses again on getting us a center he should be fired


If people thought Marc Gasol was washed, wait till you see 34 year old Vucevic plodding around shooting 32% from 3. He is washed and rinsed.


LMAO. Dude put up 18/11 on low usage playing behind DD/Lavine. Did his 3 point% drop from previous years? Ok. But stop acting like homie is all decrepit and ish. lol.



Yeah the guy who can do this vs Jokic just last season is washed lol
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/vucevic-vs-jokic-head-to-head

https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/nikola_jokic_vs_nikola_vucevic.htm
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Just In: Los Angeles Lakers four-time champion LeBron James intends to opt out of his $51.4 million player option for next season, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. The expectation is James will return to the Lakers on a new deal.

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Just In: Los Angeles Lakers four-time champion LeBron James intends to opt out of his $51.4 million player option for next season, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. The expectation is James will return to the Lakers on a new deal.


Let's see what he takes.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:17 am    Post subject:

What does he have to take to open full MLE?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:18 am    Post subject:

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Rob needs to do his best to get either Jonas V or trade for Vuecevic. We don’t need a perfect home run superstar like he keeps saying. If he misses again on getting us a center he should be fired


If people thought Marc Gasol was washed, wait till you see 34 year old Vucevic plodding around shooting 32% from 3. He is washed and rinsed.


LMAO. Dude put up 18/11 on low usage playing behind DD/Lavine. Did his 3 point% drop from previous years? Ok. But stop acting look homie is all decrepit and ish. lol.


It’s obvious he doesn’t watch Nikola play. He’s still a damn good starting C with great positional defense and rebounding. He also can hit 3s and long jumpers. Perfect fit next to AD


32% from 3 over the last 3 years. The “drop” has been going on for a while. I dont know what “positional defense” is but it’s very far from great.

Jokic threw up 28/16/9 with 56% shooting in his first game against the Bulls and then got ejected in the second quarter of the other game. Even if a small sample size, “Incredibly well” feels like a stretch. Paying him 20 million this year and next when he’s 35 would be a mistake.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:19 am    Post subject:

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Just In: Los Angeles Lakers four-time champion LeBron James intends to opt out of his $51.4 million player option for next season, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. The expectation is James will return to the Lakers on a new deal.


Get us an MLE Bron
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:20 am    Post subject:

I remember Darius on LFR sayin LeBron opting out to sign a new deal is the best case scenario from a finance perspective.

Can he wait until we've made our FA moves to re-sign?
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Just In: Los Angeles Lakers four-time champion LeBron James intends to opt out of his $51.4 million player option for next season, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. The expectation is James will return to the Lakers on a new deal.


Does he take a pay cut as a wink wink ty for drafting his son? I hope so. Money shouldn't be an issue for the Kang, right?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:21 am    Post subject:

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I remember Darius on LFR sayin LeBron opting out to sign a new deal is the best case scenario from a finance perspective.

Can he wait until we've made our FA moves to re-sign?


I think he would have to sign 1st if he is taking a lower deal to open full MLE or he has like a Max cap hold.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:22 am    Post subject:

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Lakers were extremely lucky that Dlo opted in.. keeps their options open.

It buys them time to wait for the right move.

Lucky how? Dude had zero market last year outside of us. No one appeared to want him via trade last year. Now he has value. 18m expiring. He made himself valuable. My guess is if traded he goes to a tanking team, because they know he’s not good enough to mess a tank up, but gives you hollow numbers to make it look like you aren’t tanking.


So what exactly do you disagree with?

That’s exactly my point. They can trade him.

He could have gotten more guaranteed money if he opted out. He decided to opt in and wait.. to the Lakers benefit.

He was never going to opt out. This is all he had. It wasn’t luck, it would have been a horrible business decision for him to do so. Maybe that is luck, that he’s smart enough to know he’s not highly regarded. So I guess you are right. Bobby marks after we were eliminated suggested maybe the Magic could offer him 11m per for a few years, but there was never a market outside of a salary dump for a guy who has numbers. That tells you everything you need to know about dlo. On paper he should be a 25-30 m per highly valued guy.


Don’t think you can really say that.. you have no idea what his market could have looked like. He probably could have gotten more guaranteed money.. at a lesser salary.

Or he could have opted out strictly out of spite. He was in trade rumors all year. Hurt feelings might cloud one’s judgment.. especially when you have already made 100+ million in your career. So no, I don’t think it was a guarantee that he would opt in. I think it was 50-50 at best.

The Lakers are lucky to keep the asset. If he walks you have no way to replace his salary slot.

Yes. Dlo the asset is good. Dlo as our starting PG, means we arent serious about winning. Depending on moves made we may not be serious about winning and giving JJ a built in excuse. Unfortunately the regular season doesnt mean much for us. Making the WCF is the only thing JJ should be compared against.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:22 am    Post subject:

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Rob needs to do his best to get either Jonas V or trade for Vuecevic. We don’t need a perfect home run superstar like he keeps saying. If he misses again on getting us a center he should be fired


If people thought Marc Gasol was washed, wait till you see 34 year old Vucevic plodding around shooting 32% from 3. He is washed and rinsed.


LMAO. Dude put up 18/11 on low usage playing behind DD/Lavine. Did his 3 point% drop from previous years? Ok. But stop acting like homie is all decrepit and ish. lol.



Yeah the guy who can do this vs Jokic just last season is washed lol
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/vucevic-vs-jokic-head-to-head

https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/nikola_jokic_vs_nikola_vucevic.htm


Let’s resign Dwight Howard as long as we’re lmaoing at games from 3+ years ago. I forgot NBA players don’t age. Also, he did that against us perennial DPOY candidate Jokic??

Also He’s not getting 16 shots a game in a Laker uniform. He’s getting maybe 5 or 6.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:26 am    Post subject:

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Rob needs to do his best to get either Jonas V or trade for Vuecevic. We don’t need a perfect home run superstar like he keeps saying. If he misses again on getting us a center he should be fired


If people thought Marc Gasol was washed, wait till you see 34 year old Vucevic plodding around shooting 32% from 3. He is washed and rinsed.


LMAO. Dude put up 18/11 on low usage playing behind DD/Lavine. Did his 3 point% drop from previous years? Ok. But stop acting look homie is all decrepit and ish. lol.


It’s obvious he doesn’t watch Nikola play. He’s still a damn good starting C with great positional defense and rebounding. He also can hit 3s and long jumpers. Perfect fit next to AD


32% from 3 over the last 3 years. The “drop” has been going on for a while. I dont know what “positional defense” is but it’s very far from great.

Jokic threw up 28/16/9 with 56% shooting in his first game against the Bulls and then got ejected in the second quarter of the other game. Even if a small sample size, “Incredibly well” feels like a stretch. Paying him 20 million this year and next when he’s 35 would be a mistake.


He’s not in his prime obviously but he’s also playing with 3 ball hogs that don’t get him easy looks like Lebron and AD would. We’re not getting a in prime center, even Jonas is post peak. We don’t need him to put up 22/12 but he is capable of going for those numbers still on any given night. 18/11/3 on low usage and solid efficiency is worth $20 million in the current nba and with where the cba is going

Jokic has said he considers Vucevic the best euro center he’s faced in the nba and a top 5 center. He’s held Jokic to 16 ppg in 13 matchups
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