***OFFICIAL: LAKERS AT PHOENIX ***

ericp6387 · Star Player Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Posts: 1836

The only chance we have is if guys like Fisher, Turiaf, Walton, Bynum are involved in the game and get a chance to establish themselves. Kobe needs to try to get them a few easy shots, which he never attempted to do in the second half of Houston game. I say we lose by 10.

mike_dee23 · Franchise Player Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 11703

I would like to see Kobe on the post much more this game, which means much more Mihm, who can actually hit a jumper.

Flight · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:24 am Post subject:

Kobe with 62.

Suns are tired.

Lakers win 112-109

Fracture · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:24 am Post subject:

Crazy Like Ron Artest · Star Player Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 4421

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venturalakersfan · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:28 am Post subject:

If the Lakers pound the post the Suns have no chance to stop them. Their dream is for Kobe to shoot the ball from the outside, and play their style of ball. They play that style much better than we do.

I bring up Collison because the Suns had no chance to control him in the paint. It was an example that the Lakers need to follow. Unforunately for the Sonics, they started jacking up long jumpers in the 4th and lost their lead.
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DSF_27 · Starting Rotation Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 310

Nick Collison had 8 points and 7 rebounds in 32 minutes....thats not exactly getting owned.

Wilcox did much better, but he and Amare off-set each other's performances.

Looking at the boxscore...the Suns starting frontcourt of Amare, Marion and Hill got the better of the Sonics' frontcourt of Collison, Wilcox and Wilkens.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=271101025

hi_ma · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:37 am Post subject:

If Kwame/ab/Mihm/Turiaf play strong we will win
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Wolverine · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:39 am Post subject:

venturalakersfan · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:40 am Post subject:

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VicsLakers · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:47 am Post subject:

My hope is that the Lakers win, But I smell a blow out in favor of the Suns
115 to 98. Suns

And dont see this getting better anytime soon

If the Lakers do happen to win....Man I will be stoked. A quality win could be the start of changing the mind set of this team.

Go Lakers!!!!

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venturalakersfan · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:48 am Post subject:

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ocho · Retired Number Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 54186

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wolfpaclaker · Retired Number Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 58484

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That is why the Lakers need to play inside-out tonight. Not neccesarily from Kwame or Bynum, but the Triangle allows many other players to get a post spot and score from there.

The funny thing is that in 4/5 spots we have a significant size advantage. So IMO even Kobe should be posting up instead of trying attack from the perimeter. Bell does a much better job on him at the perimeter than the post. Not to mention it is much higher % a shot to either drive or pull up from 15' and in as opposed to 20' - 23'.

In theory - You make the entry pass to the post (this is already a problem in itself) to any of the bigger Laker players at each position. From Bynum/Brown at C, or Ronny/Cook at PF, Walton/Rad at SF and Kobe/Evans at SG. Any of these spots, you have a size advantage so they can all post up. From there, it's simply about the other players cutting into the post and either getting open or positioning themselves for rebounding.

All in theory, but if the Lakers did that, they would have much better results than trying to attack the way they ussually do (from the perimeter).

IMO this team has to stop attacking from the perimeter and needs to begin using the perimeter only as a kick out option. By that I mean you only shoot it from outside if you get a kick out pass from inside. No more taking 3's from swinging the ball on the perimeter. No more Kobe attacking the defense from 25' dribbling against 2-3 defenders. Just stop playing Cook and Mo as they shoot everytime they touch the ball, and they often touch the ball on a perimeter swing pass. All that stuff needs to stop, and no better place to start than tonight when they have a big size advantage.

All that said, I'd guess Kobe will take 25-30 shots. Cook will shoot 10 shots in 12 minutes, all low % jumpers. Mo Evans the same as Cook in more minutes and the players that have big size advantages will be not be used. That has been the Laker way for the last 3-4 months I have watched them.

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Crazy Like Ron Artest · Star Player Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 4421

Kobe needs to take around 35 shots. That's the only chance.

You grossly overrate the rest of the roster, they're all offensively challenged, each and every one of them.

But we"ll find out soon enough.
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ocho · Retired Number Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 54186

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Jeffs · Retired Number Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 25274

I doubt Bynum gets many minutes. He got a lot in the opener against Phoenix last year, but that's because Amare wasn't "right" yet. With Amare in peak form now, Andrew can't defend him. Amare would go off for 40.

With that said, I really don't think we have that much of a chance without Lamar and with Phoenix at full strength.
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