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| coldzim wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Now the out of the box hire the lakers are too dumb to do would be Nuggets assistant David Adelman. Why not steal from the team that has your number, and might provide extra insight on how to beat them? OTOH he would be smart to not take this job. |
They already did this with Darvin Ham... |
Ham being a bad coach does not mean every assistant coaching hire is bad. Don’t forget that most head coaches begin as assistants (including greats like Pat Riley and Phil Jackson).
Ham and Adelman are different people with different experiences. Adelman has been the lead assistant for years in Denver. At least give him an interview. |
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| Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Now the out of the box hire the lakers are too dumb to do would be Nuggets assistant David Adelman. Why not steal from the team that has your number, and might provide extra insight on how to beat them? OTOH he would be smart to not take this job. |
Feel like the Lakers are too burned to hire another first time head coach
I don't know much about Adelman besides him being Rick's son but coming from Denver, it'd be nice if he could bring the same organizational discipline |
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ArminNBA
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| tox wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Now the out of the box hire the lakers are too dumb to do would be Nuggets assistant David Adelman. Why not steal from the team that has your number, and might provide extra insight on how to beat them? OTOH he would be smart to not take this job. |
Feel like the Lakers are too burned to hire another first time head coach
I don't know much about Adelman besides him being Rick's son but coming from Denver, it'd be nice if he could bring the same organizational discipline |
How did Pat Riley work out?
Ham’s failure should not dissuade the Lakers from considering another first-time head coach, especially given Adelman’s extensive experience and the fact that he’d run a 5-Out offense (providing the team some level of continuity). |
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Don't take the list of names too seriously. They're the same names that are recycled every single time there's a coaching vacancy.
I don't trust the front office to hire a coach that isn't a proven vet. I don't want any first-time head coaches.
I would prefer to know what the roster looks like before hiring a head coach. With these 2nd-tier head coaches, having a good coach/roster match is important like Frank Vogel or Mike D'Antoni. |
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| chrisca91 wrote: | | Hopefully Lue gets fired |
There is a good chance he will, Clippers had higher expectations then losing in the 1st round, I think what Woj is trying to say is that we might not want to pay him a boat load of salary to hire him so that makes it unrealistic
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Don’t want Akinson and Bud. There are 2 options and for each ownership and front office have to GO ALL IN.
Option 1, go after an established head coach, throw mad $$$ and possibly part ownership at them, coach Pop, Spoestra and Kerr are in this category. Chances are slim but if you want to go this route , throw everything at them.
Option 2, get some young, energetic guy with no experience, but have good relationships with our stars. JJ Reddick and Rondo are in this group. Basically think outside of box, try something new.
The worst thing this team can go is go HALF WAY on either option. Hire someone like Akinson or Budenholtzer will just be the same as Volgel. A respected coaching candidate who can not handle the pressure of coaching LeBron. Unfortunately, if I bet any money on this I’ll bet Jeannie Buss hires either one of these two, because that’s the Laker way, we never go ALL IN on anything. Always hedging for the opposite, and ended up paying double the price.
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| Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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its gonna be bud guys. it just is. the lakers are too predictable. they gonna seriously overcorrect and get the "championship level" coach for lebron.
Pop - nope
Kerr - nope
Spo - nope
Carisle - nope
Ty Lue - nope (gonna get extended)
Mike Malone - nope
Nick Nurse - nope
Doc - nope (just signed)
Vogel - nope (we screwed that up)
guess who is the only "active" championship coach who doesn't have a job? it is bud. |
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| Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: New HEAD COACH Search (Shams: Budenholzer, Atkinson, Reddick, or Lue) |
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| quartzcharm wrote: | | Can you explain the obsession with Phil Handy? Why do so many want that guy? |
He's a great player development coach with championship experience. Two stints with the Lakers 2011-2013 and 2019-present), with stops in Cleveland and Toronto for their title runs. He also said a couple of years ago that he might be interested in a head coaching job.
That having been said, being a head coach is a very different thing. After taking a leap on a first time head coach in Ham, they probably want someone more experienced imo. Then again, we're hearing J.J. Reddick rumors. |
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| Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Lue is overrated. He will never win a title without Lebron.
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Well Phil Handy is no longer on the table
https://x.com/mcten/status/1786508833092755585?s=46&t=6-sxM4NpvzeWdNMn3aVCqg
But people liked him myself included because of his player development. Which of course does not mean he would've been good as a head coach but it's unfortunate to lose him as a player development coach.
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| Lonzo-Lite wrote: | Would Jeanie actually pay Lue $7-$8 million amount that he’s making with the Clippers?
While also paying Ham’s $5 million for the next 2 years? |
Try 10-12 mil for lue |
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If he doesn't want it though, they will probably let him go now instead of keeping him for a season
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| ArminNBA wrote: | | tox wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Now the out of the box hire the lakers are too dumb to do would be Nuggets assistant David Adelman. Why not steal from the team that has your number, and might provide extra insight on how to beat them? OTOH he would be smart to not take this job. |
Feel like the Lakers are too burned to hire another first time head coach
I don't know much about Adelman besides him being Rick's son but coming from Denver, it'd be nice if he could bring the same organizational discipline |
How did Pat Riley work out?
Ham’s failure should not dissuade the Lakers from considering another first-time head coach, especially given Adelman’s extensive experience and the fact that he’d run a 5-Out offense (providing the team some level of continuity). |
Everything I've read about Adelman seems great so I'm in favor of the hire. Just doesn't strike me as the way Jeanie operates. |
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No way the players are happy with Handy being let go, but he might have just decided to leave as well. |
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Damn. Why?
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That sucks. I liked Chris Jent too, at least in terms of the playbook he helped bring the Lakers. |
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Maybe they are trying to get Lebron to leave. Playing chess. Lol
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Next coach should be smart enough to trust your leader on challenges |
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| mad55557777 wrote: |
Next coach should be smart enough to trust your leader on challenges |
Sure. but she/he is still getting that. Perkins basically lumped him in with others calling him a diva, who doesnt want to be coached making 50m per.
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | chrisca91 wrote: | | Hopefully Lue gets fired |
There is a good chance he will, Clippers had higher expectations then losing in the 1st round, I think what Woj is trying to say is that we might not want to pay him a boat load of salary to hire him so that makes it unrealistic |
Ha ha, no he's not getting fired. He's getting a huge extension from the Clippers. LOL. Not coming to the Lakers so we can pass that pipe. |
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| anth2000 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | chrisca91 wrote: | | Hopefully Lue gets fired |
There is a good chance he will, Clippers had higher expectations then losing in the 1st round, I think what Woj is trying to say is that we might not want to pay him a boat load of salary to hire him so that makes it unrealistic |
Ha ha, no he's not getting fired. He's getting a huge extension from the Clippers. LOL. Not coming to the Lakers so we can pass that pipe. |
He has to accept the extension. If he doesn't want to be there, he can decline. They can hold on to a coach with 1 season left, but they probably wouldn't do that and waste one of the last chances they have to contend. Only if Lue declines
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| CamReddish wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | chrisca91 wrote: | | Hopefully Lue gets fired |
There is a good chance he will, Clippers had higher expectations then losing in the 1st round, I think what Woj is trying to say is that we might not want to pay him a boat load of salary to hire him so that makes it unrealistic |
Ha ha, no he's not getting fired. He's getting a huge extension from the Clippers. LOL. Not coming to the Lakers so we can pass that pipe. |
He has to accept the extension. If he doesn't want to be there, he can decline. They can hold on to a coach with 1 season left, but they probably wouldn't do that and waste one of the last chances they have to contend. Only if Lue declines |
It's crazy that in the NBA you cant buy out a coach's existing contract and hire them. |
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