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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:17 am Post subject: |
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LakersMD wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | MJST wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | TheBlackMamba wrote: | Seems like Chris Duarte is a damn near ideal fit for what we need, given who may be available at our slot? |
The red flag for Duarte is he shot well for only one season against high major competition while being the oldest guy on the court every night. He's much less of a sure thing than some make him out to be. |
Well thats why he'd fall to us. Because scouts make a big deal about him coming into the league at 24 and thus feel like there isn't much of a ceiling left.
He'll be coming into the league a year younger than Kuzma is currently. |
Is he the 22-year-old guy who shot 34% from 3 or the 23-year-old who shot 42%? |
He shot 39% from 3 in juco on approximately 4 attempts per game. Lesser competition for sure, but the 34% season seems like the outlier. He apparently tried to play through a broken finger on his shooting hand and shot 17% from 3 during that 5 game stretch during his junior year before ultimately having surgery. |
He dropped from a blistering 34.8% on 3s to 33.6% on 3s due to that rough five game stretch with a finger injury, fwiw. _________________ Under New Management |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Makes sense. Given he'll be coming into the league at 24, what do you all feel his ceiling is? _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | Makes sense. Given he'll be coming into the league at 24, what do you all feel his ceiling is? |
Optimistic ceiling? A more turnover prone Malcolm Brogdon? _________________ Under New Management |
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LakersMD Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | LakersMD wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | MJST wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | TheBlackMamba wrote: | Seems like Chris Duarte is a damn near ideal fit for what we need, given who may be available at our slot? |
The red flag for Duarte is he shot well for only one season against high major competition while being the oldest guy on the court every night. He's much less of a sure thing than some make him out to be. |
Well thats why he'd fall to us. Because scouts make a big deal about him coming into the league at 24 and thus feel like there isn't much of a ceiling left.
He'll be coming into the league a year younger than Kuzma is currently. |
Is he the 22-year-old guy who shot 34% from 3 or the 23-year-old who shot 42%? |
He shot 39% from 3 in juco on approximately 4 attempts per game. Lesser competition for sure, but the 34% season seems like the outlier. He apparently tried to play through a broken finger on his shooting hand and shot 17% from 3 during that 5 game stretch during his junior year before ultimately having surgery. |
He dropped from a blistering 34.8% on 3s to 33.6% on 3s due to that rough five game stretch with a finger injury, fwiw. |
I looked at his 2020 game log. Last game prior to the injury was against Stanford.
Including that 2-for-9 Stanford game he was 44/118 by my count-that’s 37.3%.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/chris-duarte-1/gamelog/2020/ |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Trey Mann is intriguing to me. He has the midrange game/floater. Decent court vision as well and has the ability to hit the three. |
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mixtim Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:03 am Post subject: |
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"Bertka was born in Akron, Ohio..."
Eheheh the connection |
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RashardA Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Trey Murphy or bust.
He's exactly the type of player the Lakers need.
Potentially our own Cam Johnson.
If Murphy cant be had, trade the pick. _________________ Everyting negative - pressure, challenges - is all an opportunity for me to rise.
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PayasoLoco Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:28 am Post subject: |
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happy with Murphy, Garuba or Prackin |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:36 am Post subject: |
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LakersMD wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | LakersMD wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | MJST wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | TheBlackMamba wrote: | Seems like Chris Duarte is a damn near ideal fit for what we need, given who may be available at our slot? |
The red flag for Duarte is he shot well for only one season against high major competition while being the oldest guy on the court every night. He's much less of a sure thing than some make him out to be. |
Well thats why he'd fall to us. Because scouts make a big deal about him coming into the league at 24 and thus feel like there isn't much of a ceiling left.
He'll be coming into the league a year younger than Kuzma is currently. |
Is he the 22-year-old guy who shot 34% from 3 or the 23-year-old who shot 42%? |
He shot 39% from 3 in juco on approximately 4 attempts per game. Lesser competition for sure, but the 34% season seems like the outlier. He apparently tried to play through a broken finger on his shooting hand and shot 17% from 3 during that 5 game stretch during his junior year before ultimately having surgery. |
He dropped from a blistering 34.8% on 3s to 33.6% on 3s due to that rough five game stretch with a finger injury, fwiw. |
I looked at his 2020 game log. Last game prior to the injury was against Stanford.
Including that 2-for-9 Stanford game he was 44/118 by my count-that’s 37.3%.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/chris-duarte-1/gamelog/2020/ |
I don't feel like doing the math, so I'll take your word for it. The University of Oregon lied to me. _________________ Under New Management |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | July 16 draft workout participants:
D'Mitrik Trice - Wisconsin
Jordan Schakel - San Diego State
Isaiah Todd - G League Ignite
Javonte Smart - LSU
JaQuori McLaughlin - UCSB
Matthew Hurt - Duke |
Lakers looking at potential late 2nd/undrafted shooters. I can see that being a priority with their 2-way spots. _________________ Under New Management |
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Quote: | July 16 draft workout participants:
D'Mitrik Trice - Wisconsin
Jordan Schakel - San Diego State
Isaiah Todd - G League Ignite
Javonte Smart - LSU
JaQuori McLaughlin - UCSB
Matthew Hurt - Duke |
Lakers looking at potential late 2nd/undrafted shooters. I can see that being a priority with their 2-way spots. |
Lakers cancelled post workout media session. They don’t want one of their identified 2nd round steals talking! |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Quote: | July 16 draft workout participants:
D'Mitrik Trice - Wisconsin
Jordan Schakel - San Diego State
Isaiah Todd - G League Ignite
Javonte Smart - LSU
JaQuori McLaughlin - UCSB
Matthew Hurt - Duke |
Lakers looking at potential late 2nd/undrafted shooters. I can see that being a priority with their 2-way spots. |
Lakers cancelled post workout media session. They don’t want one of their identified 2nd round steals talking! |
That or they want to start the weekend early. _________________ Under New Management |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | LakersMD wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | LakersMD wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | MJST wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | TheBlackMamba wrote: | Seems like Chris Duarte is a damn near ideal fit for what we need, given who may be available at our slot? |
The red flag for Duarte is he shot well for only one season against high major competition while being the oldest guy on the court every night. He's much less of a sure thing than some make him out to be. |
Well thats why he'd fall to us. Because scouts make a big deal about him coming into the league at 24 and thus feel like there isn't much of a ceiling left.
He'll be coming into the league a year younger than Kuzma is currently. |
Is he the 22-year-old guy who shot 34% from 3 or the 23-year-old who shot 42%? |
He shot 39% from 3 in juco on approximately 4 attempts per game. Lesser competition for sure, but the 34% season seems like the outlier. He apparently tried to play through a broken finger on his shooting hand and shot 17% from 3 during that 5 game stretch during his junior year before ultimately having surgery. |
He dropped from a blistering 34.8% on 3s to 33.6% on 3s due to that rough five game stretch with a finger injury, fwiw. |
I looked at his 2020 game log. Last game prior to the injury was against Stanford.
Including that 2-for-9 Stanford game he was 44/118 by my count-that’s 37.3%.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/chris-duarte-1/gamelog/2020/ |
I don't feel like doing the math, so I'll take your word for it. The University of Oregon lied to me. |
He's the latter, because he had ridiculously low amount of assisted shots in 2-point range and 3-point range during his first year at Oregon, the kind he won't be seeing next level, especially early on. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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lakerfanaticPT Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Still like Duarte then Murphy but since the Lakers have not worked out Duarte, I think its Murphy or possibly Hyland if he really impressed the brass??
Would love for the Lakers to buy a second for a multitude of opportunities, either big small foreign, lots of choices |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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Oh dang, Duarte is already 24 years old? Interesting. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | Oh dang, Duarte is already 24 years old? Interesting. |
Only reason he’s not a top ten pick. |
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Assuming we keep the player. Murphy seems like a laker for. They need three point shooting and seem to covet length. |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Lakerz113 wrote: | epic_ wrote: | Oh dang, Duarte is already 24 years old? Interesting. |
Only reason he’s not a top ten pick. |
Ah makes sense.
How close is he to his ceiling? Still room to grow?
Also, is it just me, or does his gather and release seem slow. Not sure if it really is, or if it just looks that way. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!! |
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | epic_ wrote: | Oh dang, Duarte is already 24 years old? Interesting. |
Only reason he’s not a top ten pick. |
Ah makes sense.
How close is he to his ceiling? Still room to grow?
Also, is it just me, or does his gather and release seem slow. Not sure if it really is, or if it just looks that way. |
He's not close to his ceiling because he's a late bloomer, 2 years removed from junior college.
There's still refinement for him. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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scout_0 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:03 am Post subject: |
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I personally like Jaden Springer due to his physicality and young age 18-19 yrs old I believe. I would be against picking a 24 year old...just not enough upside imo 4-5 years is a life time |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:57 am Post subject: |
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scout_0 wrote: | I personally like Jaden Springer due to his physicality and young age 18-19 yrs old I believe. I would be against picking a 24 year old...just not enough upside imo 4-5 years is a life time |
He's more ready defensively, in terms of man defense. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | This morning’s pre-draft workouts per Lakers MR:
Miles McBride - West Virginia
Ayo Dosunmu - Illinois
Sandro Mamukelashvili - Seton Hall
Mac McClung - Texas Tech
Jaden Springer - Tennessee
Balsa Koprivica - Florida State |
Fun group of dudes. _________________ Under New Management |
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Question. Outside of our top picks, have we ever signed a player that we showed or reported that we were working out? I don't remember if we ever have. I feel that we are a little more secretive in our selection, when it's a later pick. |
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