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alleyoop
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He’s an RFA, so we can match any offer
I’d match anything up to 8mil, but I highly doubt he’ll make more than 6mil
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Step up yo game Max, we got Dalton now
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tox
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | His contract will be fascinating.
I believe 2y8M is fair. Wouldn't be a big Ham fan if was Christie, kept him on bench in contract year. |
I would overpay AAV if you can get more years. 4Y$30M type vibe. This FO gives POs away like candy, but if you could lock up Christie into his mid 20s with the cap rising at anything less than <$10M/year you can end up with a serious deal |
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dcarter4kobe
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| tox wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | His contract will be fascinating.
I believe 2y8M is fair. Wouldn't be a big Ham fan if was Christie, kept him on bench in contract year. |
I would overpay AAV if you can get more years. 4Y$30M type vibe. This FO gives POs away like candy, but if you could lock up Christie into his mid 20s with the cap rising at anything less than <$10M/year you can end up with a serious deal |
Issue with this is we will likely be up against that 2nd apron which we appear we do not want to go over going by reports.
As currently constructed with no trades, we could give Max a deal starting at 4M and still use the tax payer MLE on a FA. If we give Max 7-9M that wouldn't be possible
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tox
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | tox wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | His contract will be fascinating.
I believe 2y8M is fair. Wouldn't be a big Ham fan if was Christie, kept him on bench in contract year. |
I would overpay AAV if you can get more years. 4Y$30M type vibe. This FO gives POs away like candy, but if you could lock up Christie into his mid 20s with the cap rising at anything less than <$10M/year you can end up with a serious deal |
Issue with this is we will likely be up against that 2nd apron which we appear we do not want to go over going by reports.
As currently constructed with no trades, we could give Max a deal starting at 4M and still use the tax payer MLE on a FA. If we give Max 7-9M that wouldn't be possible |
That's true. But, if LeBron and DLO opt in (the only scenario where we hit 2nd apron), then Christie/Prince themselves basically get us against the 2nd apron, right? I think Knecht is our Prince replacement, but even so I just wonder if it's better to allot more money to Christie if it means you have a better deal in 2026. Part of the issue the Lakers have is Rob making so many short term deals -- getting Reddish/Wood/Hayes were reasonable upside plays and I'm not mad at them, but it's those player options that are an issue. Is whatever guy you get for the <tpMLE instead of the $4M you pay Christie going to move the needle that much? I mean hey if it's Goga sure I get it, but idk. |
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4 year $32 million - Woj
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I like him but no way he is worth 4/32. 2/20 with a team option would have benefited both sides more.
If he turns into THT, it's a bad contract. |
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dcarter4kobe
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Love him but why do the lakers always overpay their restricted free agents based on potential.
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Welcome back! This kid is starting or 6th man, I like it
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DD20045
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Love the resigning. What he did against Mitchell was special and it was malpractice Ham didnt play him
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It is impossible to thrive in a Darvin Ham coached sysstem.
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| Black Sheep wrote: | I like him but no way he is worth 4/32. 2/20 with a team option would have benefited both sides more.
If he turns into THT, it's a bad contract. |
You’re kidding right?
He’s a million times better than THT who got $10 mill per.
Folks complaining here because Christie isn’t a star.
Ham did not utilize him properly.
No doubt he could have helped us win games.
And, for those complaining, Christie can also play amazing defense.
The contract is perfectly fair.
Funny, guys think he should make 2-3 million. $8 is a bargain. |
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| anth2000 wrote: | | Black Sheep wrote: | I like him but no way he is worth 4/32. 2/20 with a team option would have benefited both sides more.
If he turns into THT, it's a bad contract. |
You’re kidding right?
He’s a million times better than THT who got $10 mill per.
Folks complaining here because Christie isn’t a star.
Ham did not utilize him properly.
No doubt he could have helped us win games.
And, for those complaining, Christie can also play amazing defense.
The contract is perfectly fair.
Funny, guys think he should make 2-3 million. $8 is a bargain. |
It might be a bargain if he realizes his potential but it's no bargain based on how he has performed so far. His ceiling is probably Shane Battier. |
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| ducasse wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | | Black Sheep wrote: | I like him but no way he is worth 4/32. 2/20 with a team option would have benefited both sides more.
If he turns into THT, it's a bad contract. |
You’re kidding right?
He’s a million times better than THT who got $10 mill per.
Folks complaining here because Christie isn’t a star.
Ham did not utilize him properly.
No doubt he could have helped us win games.
And, for those complaining, Christie can also play amazing defense.
The contract is perfectly fair.
Funny, guys think he should make 2-3 million. $8 is a bargain. |
It might be a bargain if he realizes his potential but it's no bargain based on how he has performed so far. His ceiling is probably Shane Battier. |
Hes performed pretty well. Ham just didnt play him.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| In the case he reaches his potential we have a great cost controlled asset. If not then 4/32 is easy enough to move off of. |
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av3773
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah thats a good contract for a pretty solod young player with more potemtial |
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anth2000
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| MJST wrote: | 4 years 8 Million a year
That's a pretty good deal. |
Exactly, yet some still complain |
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| anth2000 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | 4 years 8 Million a year
That's a pretty good deal. |
Exactly, yet some still complain |
They're still locked into a 2015 mentality where 8 Million was considered a lot. Some probably still feel like $25-30M is still a superstar max.
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I mean this genuinely….
Is he better than THT? 4x32 seems like an overpay to me based of what I’ve seen from him so far.
I’ll be the first to admit I’m not watching that closely or with the most experience as far as value off the ball/non-stat sheet.
What is this contract paying for/what is it getting the Lakers? Is he going to play enough minutes to warrant the cost of the deal?
When he was on the court I always felt he played slow, not confident, and choppy. Now, obviously he can and probably has improved on all of that but I still can’t say I saw the deal and thought “oh he totally deserved that and he’s going to make a difference for us next year”.
Who can educate me? What should I expect from Max this year and over the life of this contract? |
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| So if DLO is dealt for a SF or C is the plan Reaves at PG and Christie/Knecht at SG? |
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JamaalWilkes
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Hopefully, there’s a trade in their works.
With Knecht, we don’t need Cormac Karl “Mac” Christie.
Max is mostly a garbage time player.
Knecht is a real rotation, crunch time player. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| tox wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | His contract will be fascinating.
I believe 2y8M is fair. Wouldn't be a big Ham fan if was Christie, kept him on bench in contract year. |
I would overpay AAV if you can get more years. 4Y$30M type vibe. This FO gives POs away like candy, but if you could lock up Christie into his mid 20s with the cap rising at anything less than <$10M/year you can end up with a serious deal |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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I have a feeling contract structure is 6, 7, 8, 9 (player option) = 32 mil
Not a bad deal imo. |
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