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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:04 pm    Post subject: 6 year old arrested for shooting teacher who's in critical condition

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6-year-old in custody after shooting teacher in Virginia, police chief says

A 6-year-old boy was taken into police custody after he shot a teacher at Richneck Elementary School in Newport News, Virginia, Friday afternoon, Police Chief Steve Drew said in a news conference.

“The individual is a 6-year-old student,” Drew said. “We have been in contact with our commonwealth attorney and some other entities to help us best get services to this young man.”

Drew said the female teacher was shot inside a classroom and added that “this was not an accidental shooting.”

The police chief said there was an altercation between the teacher and the student, who had the firearm, and that a single round was fired. No other students were involved, he added.

Authorities and the Newport News public school district did not identify the teacher or the student involved in the shooting.

But the teacher was identified by her alma mater, James Madison University, as Abby Zwerner.

“All of us as James Madison University are deeply saddened by the reported tragic shooting of JMU alumna Abby Zwerner,” university President Jonathan R. Alger said in a statement posted on the school’s official Facebook page.

“JMU is prepared to support those impacted by this incident now and in the weeks to come,” the statement added.

Zwerner is listed as a first-grade teacher in Richneck Elementary School’s staff directory.

Teacher in stable condition, police say

In a Saturday statement, the Newport News Police Department said the teacher had improved and was listed in stable condition, adding the chief had met with her and her family.

“Chief Drew asked that you continue to keep her in your thoughts and prayers,” police said. A day earlier, the chief had described the teacher’s injuries as life-threatening.

An investigation is ongoing, police said.

“We’ll get the investigation done, there’s questions we’ll want to ask and find out about. I want to know where that firearm came from, what was the situation,” Drew said in Friday’s news conference.

‘Impossible to wrap our minds around’


Newport News Mayor Phillip D. Jones said Saturday authorities were working to answer questions the community has grappled with since the shooting.

“It is almost impossible to wrap our minds around the fact that a 6 year old 1st grader brought a loaded handgun to school and shot a teacher; however, this is exactly what our community is grappling with today,” the mayor said in a statement posted on Twitter.

Authorities are “working diligently to get an answer to the question we are all asking – how did this happen? We are also working to ensure the child receives the supports and services he needs as we continue to process what took place,” Jones said.

Speaking during Friday’s news conference, Newport News Public Schools Superintendent Dr. George Parker said he was saddened by the shooting and called for better gun safety measures from the community to keep firearms away from children.

“I’m in shock, and I’m disheartened,” Parker said in Friday’s news conference. “We need to educate our children and we need to keep them safe.”

“We need the community’s support, continued support, to make sure that guns are not available to youth and I’m sounding like a broken record today, because I continue to reiterate that: that we need to keep the guns out of the hands of our young people,” the superintendent said.

Officials are also looking into any past instances that may have transpired before the shooting, Parker added.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/06/us/newport-news-virginia-shooting/index.html


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Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSQHdJvt4Ho

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- Per the 1st video, teacher was struck in her upper shoulder/torso area and her hand

- Per 2nd video, 6 year old fired a single shot in a 1st grade classroom. Teacher has life threatening wounds, but improving. Authorities say the shooting was not accidental.

- Also, this happened Friday afternoon, so yesterday

- Per another article I read: "Metal detectors are used randomly throughout the school district, Parker said."

I don't know what random metal detectors mean, or how effective it is, but it didn't work in this instance.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:07 pm    Post subject:

I know nothing about this but an adult told this kid what to do imho
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:12 pm    Post subject:

CPS should get involved. How and where did the 6yr old get a gun?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:15 am    Post subject:

Horrible situaton, but I still have to ask: how can a 6-year old be brought into police custody? Aren't kids that young completely exempt from any kind of liability?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:28 am    Post subject: Re: 6 year old arrested for shooting teacher who's in critical condition

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- Per the 1st video, teacher was struck in her upper shoulder/torso area and her hand


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Police radio traffic posted online by Broadcastify, a streaming service, captured the chaotic moments as a dispatcher communicated with officers responding to the scene.

“We have a female victim shot in the abdomen,” the dispatcher said. She added that the victim had also been shot through the hand and was waiting for medical assistance in the school’s office, where she was “in and out of consciousness.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/07/us/virginia-shooting-richneck-elementary.html


Upper shoulder/torso vs. abdomen are two different things.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:29 am    Post subject:

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Horrible situaton, but I still have to ask: how can a 6-year old be brought into police custody? Aren't kids that young completely exempt from any kind of liability?


Yeah, Virginia law is weird. Seems unclear and confusing.

On the one hand, they take the kid into police custody and the article says this:

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Among them: How did a 6-year-old child obtain access to a gun? The authorities have not publicly identified the child or the teacher, detailed the nature of the altercation or offered information about whether the gun was taken from home, school or elsewhere.

The boy was in police custody Friday evening, the authorities said, but the unusual nature of the situation leaves the path forward far from clear. While it is possible that the child could be criminally charged, legal scrutiny could also fall on the child’s parents or another adult. Virginia law prohibits leaving a loaded gun where it is accessible to children under the age of 14.


But then, on the other hand, they say this is the Virginia law as it pertains to children who can be criminally tried:

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Under Virginia law, a 6-year-old cannot be charged as an adult. And while it is possible the child could be charged criminally in juvenile court, the minimum age to be sentenced to a juvenile prison in Virginia is 11.

“The juvenile justice system is not really equipped to deal with really young kids who commit criminal offenses and is probably the wrong place to deal with a situation like this,” said Andrew Block, a professor at the University of Virginia School of Law and the former director of the Virginia Department of Justice.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/07/us/virginia-shooting-richneck-elementary.html


So it's possible to try a 6 year old in juvenile court, but you can't sentence the kid because he's under 11? Huh?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:31 am    Post subject:

Check out the dichotomy of these Virginia laws:

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Virginia law prohibits leaving a loaded gun where it is accessible to children under the age of 14.


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Virginia, unlike some other states — notably Oregon and Massachusetts — does not have a broad law that requires all guns to be safely stored in homes.


So they don't require you to safely store your guns in your house, as long as you keep it away from the kids?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:19 am    Post subject:

Said it in the politics thread when it happened.

Only thing that can stop a bad 6 year old with a gun. Is a good 6 year old with a gun.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:55 am    Post subject:

LongBeachPoly wrote:
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Horrible situaton, but I still have to ask: how can a 6-year old be brought into police custody? Aren't kids that young completely exempt from any kind of liability?


Yeah, Virginia law is weird. Seems unclear and confusing.

On the one hand, they take the kid into police custody and the article says this:

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Among them: How did a 6-year-old child obtain access to a gun? The authorities have not publicly identified the child or the teacher, detailed the nature of the altercation or offered information about whether the gun was taken from home, school or elsewhere.

The boy was in police custody Friday evening, the authorities said, but the unusual nature of the situation leaves the path forward far from clear. While it is possible that the child could be criminally charged, legal scrutiny could also fall on the child’s parents or another adult. Virginia law prohibits leaving a loaded gun where it is accessible to children under the age of 14.


But then, on the other hand, they say this is the Virginia law as it pertains to children who can be criminally tried:

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Under Virginia law, a 6-year-old cannot be charged as an adult. And while it is possible the child could be charged criminally in juvenile court, the minimum age to be sentenced to a juvenile prison in Virginia is 11.

“The juvenile justice system is not really equipped to deal with really young kids who commit criminal offenses and is probably the wrong place to deal with a situation like this,” said Andrew Block, a professor at the University of Virginia School of Law and the former director of the Virginia Department of Justice.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/07/us/virginia-shooting-richneck-elementary.html


So it's possible to try a 6 year old in juvenile court, but you can't sentence the kid because he's under 11? Huh?


They can’t try him as an adult (which is good), and they can’t send him to juvenile prison (also good). The problem isn’t that they should be able to do either, it’s what DO they do?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:04 am    Post subject:

^ Yeah, there isn't even anything close to a uniformity across the 50 states. Here are the minimum age of juvenile adjudication for each state.

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25 states have no minimum age for prosecuting children

Alabama
Alaska
Georgia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kentucky
Maine
Maryland
Michigan
Missouri
Montana
New Jersey
New Mexico
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Rhode Island
South Carolina
Tennessee
Virginia
West Virginia
Wyoming

The other 25 states have the following min age requirement for prosecuting children

7:
Florida

8:
Washington

10:
Arizona
Arkansas
Colorado
Connecticut
Kansas
Louisiana
Minnesota
Mississippi
Nevada
North Carolina
North Dakota
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Texas
Vermont
Wisconsin

11:
New England

12:
California
Delaware
Massachusetts
New York
Utah

13:
New Hampshire


This article highlights the controversy in prosecuting young children:

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In some states, including Oregon, your 6-year-old child can be arrested. Advocates want that changed

Kaia Rolle was 6 years old when police arrested her at a Florida school in 2019. The then first-grader was accused of kicking and punching staff members while throwing a tantrum.

A police officer used zip ties to handcuff her. The video of her crying and pleading with a school resource officer not to handcuff her sparked widespread outrage at the time. It also led to changes in state law.

But Kaia is still feeling the effects of that day more than two years later, her grandmother, Meralyn Kirkland, tells NPR. Kaia's in therapy for PTSD, she says. "She also still suffers from separation anxiety."

Kaia's ordeal prompted Florida to set a minimum age for a juvenile's arrest. It was part of a wider police reform bill and says no one under 7 years of age can be arrested, charged or adjudicated unless they've committed a forcible felony. Those felonies are defined by the state.

But there's growing debate in several states about whether the minimum age should be higher, that children behaving badly shouldn't be viewed as criminal.

“There should not be any law on the book that allows a child to be arrested for being a child”
"A 6-year-old throwing a tantrum is a 6-year-old," Kirkland said during an interview with WMFE in Orlando a week after the incident. "Whether someone accidentally gets hit or not, it's a tantrum. There should not be any law on the book that allows a child to be arrested for being a child."

Mo Canady is a former police officer and the executive director of the National Association of School Resource Officers, or NASRO. He says although police officers who work in schools can make arrests, it doesn't mean they should.

"It should be the rarest of circumstances that should occur," Canady says. "Almost never."

NASRO training includes teaching officers about de-escalation, adolescent brain development and working with all types of students.

"So, when I see the image of a 5 or 6-year-old child handcuffed and law enforcement is involved, whether an SRO or not, it does make me cringe," Canady says.

Orlando authorities dropped the battery charge Kaia faced. The school said it never intended for her to be arrested. The police officer was fired.

State by state, there is little agreement on what is an appropriate minimum age for juvenile prosecutions [see above chart]

The push to change the minimum age is part of a wider effort to reform juvenile justice by not charging very young people with a crime unless it's a serious offense. Many states don't have any age limits at all when it comes prosecuting juveniles. Others that do are now determining what the minimum age should be for a child to be involved in the juvenile courts.

Supporters of the Florida change—setting the minimum to 7 years old—say that was only a first step; they suggested, early on, the limit be 12 years old. Alyson Clements with the National Juvenile Justice Network says because juvenile justice is handled state by state, the country has a patchwork approach to children who come into contact with the law.

"So that when we look at the minimum age of prosecution across the country, half have no minimum age of youth court jurisdiction of prosecution," Clements says, "and those that do have a minimum age — it's all over the map."

Labeling these children as delinquent “has a profound effect on their psyche — on who they are”

Until last year, North Carolina had the lowest prosecution age for juveniles in the country among the states that legislated it. The Legislature voted to raise the age to from 6 to 10 years old, in most instances.

Democratic State Rep. Marcia Morey was a juvenile court judge for nearly two decades. She says 6 to 9-year-olds needed to be out of the system.

"These kids are too young to have any concept of what's going on in a courtroom. Plus, the fact to label them delinquent has a profound effect on their psyche — on who they are," Morey says.

The former judge was the first to propose increasing the age to 10. The amendment she offered failed but the idea was included in a subsequent measure offered by a Republican state senator.

"I think it was an important bill," she says. "We passed it. We didn't do a good enough job because we can still put 8 and 9-year-olds into the delinquency system for more serious felonies."

“You’re 12 years old in the 8th grade getting walked down the hall in handcuffs. It’s kind of dehumanizing”
This year, Colorado is one of five states considering raising its minimum age, increasing it to 13 years old from 10.

Phillip Roybal says he supports the measure. He's a youth justice advocate at the Denver nonprofit, Colorado Circles for Change. In his 30s now, Roybal spent years in the juvenile justice system.

He says he was first arrested at school when he was 12. He and some other kids stole baseball cards they thought would be lucrative to sell.

"School resource officers weren't a thing," Roybal says. "It was just the local police department. They got called and pulled me out of class and arrested me right then and there--which in itself was kind of like a walk of shame a little bit. You're 12 years old in the 8th grade getting walked down the hall in handcuffs. It's kind of dehumanizing."

Roybal says that type of trauma can create a whirlwind of long-term negatives for a child. He and others argue it may also lead some children to more criminal activity.

"That's exactly what happened to me, exactly what happened to me," says Roybal. "So from 1998 to 2010, I was involved in the justice system in one shape or form--probation, parole, county jail or prison."

He credits the unwavering support of his family, despite his stumbles, with helping him to turn his life around. He knows he was lucky. "I had a very good support system. A lot of our youth don't have that," Roybal says.

State analysts say about 500 kids between the ages of 10 and 12 enter Colorado's criminal justice system every year.

A bill is being considered to set up a task force to identify counseling and other services for children out of the system
Prosecutor Michael Dougherty, the head of the Colorado District Attorneys Council, says while he supports reducing the number of children in juvenile court he and the other prosecutors don't support the current bill to increase the age boundary. He says it offers no substitute for a support network that works well.

Dougherty says his office has a robust diversion program that provides medical treatment and counseling for young people and their families. He says that has kept hundreds of kids out of juvenile court. He also says 10, 11, and 12-year-olds no longer in the system would lose access to services ordered by the courts and so would victims.

"So for example, if a 12-year-old rapes a 10-year-old girl living next door," Dougherty explains, "I really believe our society owes it to respond to her and her family and support her. And we also should have a system to help the 12-year-old who committed the sex assault in order to ensure that he's provided the structure and support that he needs."

Colorado State Rep. Serena Gonzales-Gutierrez, a Democrat, is a co-sponsor of the legislation to raise the minimum age limit. She says she values the work of Dougherty and others, but adds, "If they are providing such robust diversion-type programs, why can't that be provided without the criminalization of children?"

Gonzales-Gutierrez says the bill, now in committee, includes changes that set up a task force to identify support, like counseling and other services children out of the system might need. The task force will also determine ways to fund those programs. It will have more than a year to do its work. The proposal changing the state minimum age for prosecuting juveniles is scheduled to become law in 2024.

Juvenile justice advocates say that's what needed throughout the country when it comes to rehabilitating youth who get into trouble. Plus, a continued effort to push the minimum age for prosecuting juveniles even higher. They want to match the 14-year-old age limit commonly used internationally.

https://www.opb.org/article/2022/05/03/in-some-states-your-6-year-old-child-can-be-arrested-advocates-want-that-changed/


Yeah, I definitely think 6 year olds are too young to be arrested and charged. What should they do? I'd say nothing. Punish the adults who allowed the kid access to a gun. That should be enough.

If you think about it, children don't change from state to state. Why are the laws so different? Doesn't really make much sense.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:14 pm    Post subject:

I am honk the kid needs some serious ongoing help and the people who left the gun for him need serious consequences. I also think the child should face age appropriate consequences going forward (which might be mental health care rather than incarceration) if he continues to offend as he gets older. With reasonable treatment and results, his record should be clean when he reaches adulthood.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:56 pm    Post subject:

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Yeah, I'm against even arresting the child. How did that process go? They handcuffed the child, took him away in the back of a police car? Took him down to a holding cell, fingerprinted him? Must have been a scary ordeal for a 6 year old.

Are the parents a part of this process? Was the child released back to the parents or is he somewhere in custody still? This doesn't go away. It'll always be embedded in his memory.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:12 pm    Post subject:

unfortunately if the kid didnt know/think this was wrong I have to believe he cant be made to. Hopefully, he has an understanding when he is older, but certain things in life are innate. The ability to refrain from something like this is one of them. IMHO
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:55 am    Post subject:

A 6-year can't acquire a weapon, so he got it or stole it from somewhere or someone. An adult must be involved, knowingly or through negligence.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:44 am    Post subject:

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A 6-year can't acquire a weapon, so he got it or stole it from somewhere or someone. An adult must be involved, knowingly or through negligence.


The gun legally belongs to the mom

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The mother of a 6-year-old boy who authorities say shot his teacher at a Virginia elementary school could face charges, Newport News police Chief Steve Drew said Tuesday.

“I think that is certainly a possibility,” Drew told “CNN This Morning,” a day after police confirmed the boy took the firearm from his home and brought it to school in his backpack Friday before allegedly opening fire in a classroom at Richneck Elementary School in Newport News, wounding a teacher and sending her to the hospital.


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Before police revealed the gun was legally purchased by the 6-year-old’s mother, Andrew Block, an associate professor at the University of Virginia Law School, told CNN there was a scenario where the parents could be held criminally liable if the weapon belonged to them and they did not keep it properly locked up. But in Virginia, that’s only a Class 1 misdemeanor, Block said.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/10/us/6-year-old-teacher-shooting-virginia-tuesday/index.html


Where is the kid currently being held?

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The boy was taken into police custody Friday, and Drew said Monday he was under a temporary detention order and was being evaluated at a hospital.


Boy fought with school employee who detained him:

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Police received the call that a teacher had been shot at 1:59 p.m., Drew said. When officers entered the classroom five minutes later, the boy was being physically restrained by a school employee, police said. He was combative and struck the employee restraining him. Officers escorted him from the building and into a police car.


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Student is likely too young to stand trial, expert says

While it’s technically possible for prosecutors to file charges against a 6-year-old in Virginia, which does not have a statutory age limit, “it is incredibly unlikely that it would lead to a successful prosecution,” said Andrew Block, an associate professor at the University of Virginia School of Law.

The main hurdle, Block said, is a defendant must be found competent to stand trial – meaning the court must find the defendant is able to both understand the nature of the legal proceedings against him and assist his lawyers in his own defense.

“It’s virtually impossible to imagine that a 6-year-old would meet either of the criteria necessary to find competency,” said Block, who is also the former director of the Virginia Department of Juvenile Justice.

Hypothetically, if prosecutors did file charges, the 6-year-old’s attorneys would have available to them the “infancy defense,” Block said, which essentially says anyone under the age of seven can never be found criminally responsible.

The student is also likely too young for a detention center if he were to be found guilty, Block told CNN. “The juvenile justice system is not set up to handle kids this young,” he said.

The courts would have limited options in Virginia, where one must be 11 years old to be held in custody in a state facility, Block said. That leaves open other possibilities, like residential treatment or “wraparound” support services for the family.

Alternatively, the student could be found to be a “child in need of services,” Block said, which would mean the child was “engaging in behavior that puts either themselves or others at serious risk of harm,” and the courts could step in to make sure the child received the needed services.

“Given the little that we know, that seems like it would be a more expedient, appropriate and hopefully productive path for people to pursue if it ends up going to court at all,” Block said.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/us/what-we-know-newport-news-virginia-shooting/index.html
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:57 am    Post subject:

Whatever was going on in that home is what led a 6-yr-old to act out his rage that way. Whether the kid was emotionally or physically abused, emotionally abandoned, had no appropriate role modeling, supervision, boundaries or whatever. I place 99% of what that kid did on the parents. At a minimum the entire family needs to be in counseling. Child protective services should also be on the alert for other children in that home.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:53 am    Post subject:

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They can’t try him as an adult (which is good), and they can’t send him to juvenile prison (also good). The problem isn’t that they should be able to do either, it’s what DO they do?


Michael Moore discussed a situation like this in Bowling For Columbine. He showed news on a Kinder/1st kid who brought a gun to school and shot a classmate. Of course, kids that young don't know the gravity of it all (even if the kid in this case was mimicking something he saw on TV??) and shouldn't have access to begin with. And even if he was angry and did mimic something, did he have a firm grasp on the finality of shooting someone? Doubt it. In the news story in Bowling, the mother of the kid was poor and working two jobs at the time and the gun was owned by an uncle or dad or mother's BF, can't recall. But that didn't stop Michigan for making her life hell under the guise of child protection. There was more context about her having to move w/ the kid to a bad hood due to money issues and she was working all day and not seeing the child as much as she wanted to. However, in that case, I remember them taking the child to the police station and the detective interviewed showed a picture the kid drew w/ crayons while in his office. Situations like this are tragic all around the margins. In this case, we've yet to learn the extent of negligence in the family situation and how willful it was.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:59 am    Post subject:

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CPS should get involved. How and where did the 6yr old get a gun?


Might be a solid wager that they've contacted this fam before this. We'll see.

On a tangent, boys at that age who have ADHD or the like can be incorrigible little sht's in a classroom setting (to the detriment of all the good kids' education, yet they won't separate em out because it might infringe on the kid who throws clay). That scenario usually doesn't rise to shoot the teacher level, but if the gun is w/in such a child's reach, incredulity can ensue. When I was in 1st or 2nd grade, I snagged one of Pop's empty Marlboro flip-top boxes to store some Big League Chew (ironically gum that mimicked chewing tobacco) and got sent to the office. I didn't realize it was a no-no until I was told it was. That's one thing, but you would like to think that even a 6 yr old would know not to take a MF GAT to school, but they're not all at the same cognitive and emotional level.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:03 am    Post subject:

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Whatever was going on in that home is what led a 6-yr-old to act out his rage that way. Whether the kid was emotionally or physically abused, emotionally abandoned, had no appropriate role modeling, supervision, boundaries or whatever. I place 99% of what that kid did on the parents. At a minimum the entire family needs to be in counseling. Child protective services should also be on the alert for other children in that home.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:18 am    Post subject:

PS: Child, preteen, teen, young adult suicides by gun? MORE likely to occur with said gun being there for the taking. Seemingly, a no-duh statement, but ask the parents of kids who killed themselves w/ their guns if they realized the obvious beforehand. I remember one story where a kid who gave no inclinations of trouble at all used his dad's gun and the dad left him to get grox and came back to see him sitting up in his bed and walked past his open door once or twice before realizing that he had shot himself in the opposite temple. Guy wasn't expecting it and walks up to find the kid dead. I remember that from an HBO doc circa mid 90s on that phenomenon. They had 4-5 case studies and the parents being involved was amazing enough, but it was only because all they could do was hope to prevent others from going thru it. Also had the classic accidental death scenario of two 12 yr olds playing w/ a gun they thought was unloaded, but contained a bullet in the chamber. Anyone has a gun and a kid or plural, you might wanna lock that gun up tight just to be 100000000% sure.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:17 am    Post subject:

School Head: Some Knew Boy Had Gun Before Teacher Shot

A school superintendent says administrators at the Virginia school where a first-grader shot his teacher last week learned the child may have had a weapon in his possession before the shooting but did not seize the 9mm handgun he brought to his classroom in his backpack

By Associated Press

Jan. 13, 2023, at 10:34 a.m.



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:31 am    Post subject:

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Administrators at the Virginia school where a first-grader shot his teacher last week learned the child may have had a weapon in his possession before the shooting but did not seize the 9mm handgun he brought to his classroom, the school system's superintendent said.

School system Superintendent George Parker told parents Thursday night in an online meeting that a school official was notified about the weapon before the 6-year-old shot the teacher at Richneck Elementary in Newport News.

"At least one administrator was notified of a possible weapon in the timeline that we're reviewing and was aware that that student had, there was a potential that there was a weapon on campus," the superintendent told parents, according to a clip of the meeting broadcast by WAVY-TV.

The online meeting was for parents only but WAVY-TV reported the station gained access to the meeting from a parent.


According to this video, they actually searched the boy for the gun and missed it. Wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo_g3IaY6Hc
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:03 am    Post subject:

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School Head: Some Knew Boy Had Gun Before Teacher Shot

A school superintendent says administrators at the Virginia school where a first-grader shot his teacher last week learned the child may have had a weapon in his possession before the shooting but did not seize the 9mm handgun he brought to his classroom in his backpack

By Associated Press

Jan. 13, 2023, at 10:34 a.m.



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^ wowo wowo woh

This school and its kids are special. Elementary schools throw around the word special a lot, but it really applies here.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:32 am    Post subject:

NBC: Teacher shot by 6-year-old texted a dire warning to a loved one before she was wounded, source says

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The Virginia teacher who was shot by her 6-year-old student texted a loved one before she was wounded that the boy was armed and that school officials were failing to act, according to a source close to the situation.

The source on Tuesday said Abigail Zwerner sent the text about an hour before she was shot on Jan. 6, saying that the student said he had a gun in his backpack and administrators at Richneck Elementary School in Newport News weren't helping.

The text "showed her frustration," said the source, who only disclosed details of the single text message to NBC News and not the messages that came before or after it. "She was frustrated because she was trying to get help with this child, for this child, and then when she needed help, no one was coming."


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Zwerner first went to a school administrator between 11:15 a.m. and 11:30 a.m. and said the student threatened to beat up a classmate, Toscano said. A second teacher went to a school administrator at 12:30 p.m. and told the administrator the teacher took it upon herself to search the 6-year-old boy's backpack.

"The administrator downplayed the report from the teacher and the possibility of a gun," Toscano said.

A third teacher told an administrator shortly before 1 p.m., the boy showed a student the gun at recess and "threatened to shoot him if he told anybody," Toscano said.

A fourth employee asked an administrator for permission to search the boy and was denied, Toscano said.

The administrator told the employee, to "wait the situation out because the school day was almost over," Toscano said.

Toscano said the "administration could not be bothered" and the tragedy was "entirely preventable" if the administration "had taken action when they had knowledge of imminent danger. But instead, they failed to act and Abby was shot."
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:52 pm    Post subject:

^^^^ Do you know if this administrator reprimanded or fired?
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