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rst08tierney
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Nash deal was reported on the 4th of July.
Will history repeat its self with Kyire? |
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Lakesh0wtime
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| rst08tierney wrote: | Nash deal was reported on the 4th of July.
Will history repeat its self with Kyire? |
I hope not. That season was horrible. |
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Hanging from Rafters
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | LBJ23 wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | I find it funny how some fans here think that every free agent wants to play for the Lakers. Not every player wants to play for the Lakers. |
It is part of Robs job to convince them |
And it is also their decision to just say “No thanks”. We are not entitled to any of them. |
Depending on how many the GM convinces and how many say no thanks speaks to the ability of the GM. It’s Rob’s job to find quality “yeses”. If he is capable he will if he is not he won’t.
It’s an excuse of failure if quality players can’t be added to just say they didn’t want to come here when the whole point of his job is to get them to to come here. Every GM will lose some and win some…the ones that lose more are not as good as those that win more.
By the way, NOBODY thinks every player wants to play for the Lakers, that extreme is included in the narrative to cover up that some may be able to be convinced to play for the Lakers if we had a better GM.
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AD23
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| 32 wrote: | | I find it funny how some fans here think that every free agent wants to play for the Lakers. Not every player wants to play for the Lakers. |
You mean EVERY PLAYER wants to play for the VET MINIMUM for the Lakers.
Get it right bro |
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vasashi17+
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| 32 wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | | LBJ23 wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | I find it funny how some fans here think that every free agent wants to play for the Lakers. Not every player wants to play for the Lakers. |
It is part of Robs job to convince them |
Exactly! Dude can’t close tho. I guess he needed to sit in Otto’s driveway instead of using the 500k burner line.
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Just because the Lakers target a player doesn't mean that player is interested in playing for them. |
As a former player agent, you’d think dude has a pulse on what players want/desire.
If he wants Toronto for his wife, then why waste the effort/resources in pursuing him?
As for TJ, remember this little nugget?
https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2021/7/27/22596608/lakers-trade-rumors-kyle-kuzma-no-22-pick-pacers-13-move-up-draft
https://www.ibtimes.com/nba-rumors-lakers-tried-pull-trade-pacers-forward-3261365
If guys don’t want to be here, don’t burn energy/time/resources in pursuing them.
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| LakerSD wrote: | https://twitter.com/kdtrey5/status/1543649525419499520?s=21&t=4_t1zDO-x8f2ez9Op77Mkw
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| Quote: | The Raptors odds for landing Kevin Durant just moved again as they’re closing the gap on the Suns (via @DraftKings):
Suns = -170
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If the Raps offer is Scottie Barnes + 3 draft picks and good matching salary, he would be Toronto bound.
Scottie has a super upside, but Durant meets the rest of the Rosters timeline.
Pretty sure Drake is in Kevin’s ear about it working.
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People keep posting this. Please illuminate me on why the Pacers would trade Hield for a guy on a similar contract, but older and coming off ankle surgery. |
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Hanging from Rafters
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | | LBJ23 wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | I find it funny how some fans here think that every free agent wants to play for the Lakers. Not every player wants to play for the Lakers. |
It is part of Robs job to convince them |
Exactly! Dude can’t close tho. I guess he needed to sit in Otto’s driveway instead of using the 500k burner line.
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Just because the Lakers target a player doesn't mean that player is interested in playing for them. |
As a former player agent, you’d think dude has a pulse on what players want/desire.
If he wants Toronto for his wife, then why waste the effort/resources in pursuing him?
As for TJ, remember this little nugget?
https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2021/7/27/22596608/lakers-trade-rumors-kyle-kuzma-no-22-pick-pacers-13-move-up-draft
https://www.ibtimes.com/nba-rumors-lakers-tried-pull-trade-pacers-forward-3261365
If guys don’t want to be here, don’t burn energy/time/resources in pursuing them. |
I get that…you are definitely right…but it doesn’t stop there…the flip side is also true. Which is…the GM is tasked with finding those players that can be convinced. Some of the narrative is that there wasn’t quality players available at the money the Lakers have to offer yet other GMs found a way to convince those quality players to come to their team. We expect our GM to display similar success. |
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| Rob is not getting the Nets to include Seth Curry. |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | People keep posting this. Please illuminate me on why the Pacers would trade Hield for a guy on a similar contract, but older and coming off ankle surgery. |
A FRP. They save money and get a FRP. That seems like a near ideal scenario for Indiana. Brooklyn likely wants the Lakers to take on Harris' contract AND give up 2 FRPs for the Irving/Harris combination, which the Lakers seem reluctant to do. IF the Nets are willing to re-route one of the FRPs, they can unload Joe Harris' contract.
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Rob is not getting the Nets to include Seth Curry. |
he will, after he throws in 3 more picks |
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| Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | | LBJ23 wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | I find it funny how some fans here think that every free agent wants to play for the Lakers. Not every player wants to play for the Lakers. |
It is part of Robs job to convince them |
Exactly! Dude can’t close tho. I guess he needed to sit in Otto’s driveway instead of using the 500k burner line.
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Just because the Lakers target a player doesn't mean that player is interested in playing for them. |
As a former player agent, you’d think dude has a pulse on what players want/desire.
If he wants Toronto for his wife, then why waste the effort/resources in pursuing him?
As for TJ, remember this little nugget?
https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2021/7/27/22596608/lakers-trade-rumors-kyle-kuzma-no-22-pick-pacers-13-move-up-draft
https://www.ibtimes.com/nba-rumors-lakers-tried-pull-trade-pacers-forward-3261365
If guys don’t want to be here, don’t burn energy/time/resources in pursuing them. |
I get that…you are definitely right…but it doesn’t stop there…the flip side is also true. Which is…the GM is tasked with finding those players that can be convinced. Some of the narrative is that there wasn’t quality players available at the money the Lakers have to offer yet other GMs found a way to convince those quality players to come to their team. We expect our GM to display similar success. |
You got to consider other factors at play here... a BIG one like the targeted player's family (wife, children, etc having to yet AGAIN move to another state, look for schools, etc) when a team targeting them ONLY are offering 1-year deals. The coveted tall wings are getting multi-year deals. The Lakers are not offering that. Also.... living in Los Angeles is not everyone's cup of tea |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Rob is not getting the Nets to include Seth Curry. |
Sometimes negotiations get to the point where saving-face becomes
a detriment to the actual objective. Of course, you don't want to
make a bad decision, but both sides need to show a little good faith and
look at the big picture.
The longer a decision is dragged out, the more difficult it gets to actually
"save-face"; then you're just playing chicken which frustrates both and then
they close negotiations out of stubbornness .
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turner and hield for westbrook and kyrie gets bought out..
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| pjiddy wrote: |
People keep posting this. Please illuminate me on why the Pacers would trade Hield for a guy on a similar contract, but older and coming off ankle surgery. |
It wouldn’t be straight up. The pacers would obviously get an asset whether it’s THT or 2nd round pick.
You also have to factor in the business side. Hield is probably telling Indiana please trade me, don’t want to be on a rebuilding team again. |
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How about this?
IND: Hield and Turner for Russ and 2027 1st (LAL)
BRK: Kyrie for Hield and Nunn (or THT)
LAL: Russ, THT or Nunn, and 2027 1st for Kyrie and Turner
Indy gets off Hield’s second year and adds a first. Let the tank begin. Brooklyn lowers its tax bill and gets a couple rotation players. Lakers still don’t add any 2023 salary.
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| Why didn't the Lakers want Johnny Juzang? |
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Imagining three of those guys next to Lebron (and AD) gives me the tingles. The defense would be in shambles, but the offense has historically great potential. |
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| Hield sucks though. How long is his deal for? |
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| deal wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Rob is not getting the Nets to include Seth Curry. |
Sometimes negotiations get to the point where saving-face becomes
a detriment to the actual objective. Of course, you don't want to
make a bad decision, but both sides need to show a little good faith and
look at the big picture.
The longer a decision is dragged out, the more difficult it gets to actually
"save-face"; then you're just playing chicken which frustrates both and then
they close negotiations out of stubbornness . |
I'm not sure that we're so close to a deal. There's a lot of noise out there, but that's always true when the Lakers are involved. My sense is that this is not about saving face (which, as you rightly say, can be an issue sometimes), but rather about luxury tax on both sides.
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| levon wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | logical24 wrote: | warriors mac
@warriors_mac
Also said Hield/Turner for Russ has legs |
I could see Harris being flipped for Hield. Pelinka loves his former clients. |
I can see Curry + THT being flipped for Hield. |
Why do you want Hield when you have seth. Seth is better than Buddy |
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