2022 Lakers Draft News (BREAKING NEWS Lakers pick #35 Max Christie; Undrafted Signings: Shareef O'Neal, Pippen Jr.-2-way, Swider-2-way)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:30 pm    Post subject:

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Shareef O’Neal has agreed to play in NBA Summer League with the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell @TheAthletic@Stadium. Anothe r O’Neal big man in a Lakers uniform.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:30 pm    Post subject:

Shareef O'Neal to play for Lakers summer league.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:30 pm    Post subject:

Shaq back with Lakers
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:31 pm    Post subject:

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Shareef O’Neal has agreed to play in NBA Summer League with the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell @TheAthletic@Stadium. Anothe r O’Neal big man in a Lakers uniform.


He’s probably not gonna be any good, but I’ll root hard for him.

I like him better than Max Christie lol.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:31 pm    Post subject:

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Blazers select: Samaki's son, Jabari Walker


Oh is that Samaki's kid. Well good for him...

And I was wondering what happened to Shareef so that's good too
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:31 pm    Post subject:

Now go for KDiop.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:32 pm    Post subject:

leking006 wrote:
I think there are many good undrafted prospects. Lakers should tryout as many prospects as they can as they may get a gem like Reaves.

If they are looking for a 3&D, they should take a look at Ron Harper Jr.


Again, don’t know his game, but your comment is right
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:32 pm    Post subject:

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Now go for KDiop.


Hell yes please!

Give me a Centee to root for now!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:32 pm    Post subject:

There's a helluva lot of undrafted legit players.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:32 pm    Post subject:

Lakers are signing Scotty Pippen Jr. to a two-way contract, source tells
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:33 pm    Post subject:

Pippen to lakers
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:33 pm    Post subject:

REALLY hoping we get Jules Bernard and Trevion Williams as UDFAs…

REALLY HOPING.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:33 pm    Post subject:

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Now go for KDiop.


Cavs drafted him, I thought.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:33 pm    Post subject:

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With the final pick in the NBA Draft, Milwaukee is selecting Hugo Besson at No. 58.


https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1540190297237471232

58 is the final pick? No more picks going up to 60?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:33 pm    Post subject:

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epic_ wrote:
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Shareef O’Neal has agreed to play in NBA Summer League with the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell @TheAthletic@Stadium. Anothe r O’Neal big man in a Lakers uniform.


He’s probably not gonna be any good, but I’ll root hard for him.

I like him better than Max Christie lol.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:33 pm    Post subject:

We got 2 sons of NBA greats
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:33 pm    Post subject:

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Syracuse sharpshooter Cole Swider has agreed to a two-way contract with the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell @TheAthletic@Stadium. Swider and Pippen Jr. take over the Lakers‘ two slots.


2 way contracts filled.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:34 pm    Post subject:

We’re getting the sons of greats baby! Let’s go!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:34 pm    Post subject:

Cole Swider too? Nice.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:34 pm    Post subject:

Cold Swinder signs 2-Way with the Lakers also. Damn, Mac is gone. =(
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epic_ wrote:
We got 2 sons of NBA greats


Good for marketing I guess.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:35 pm    Post subject:

Pippen and Swider, not bad
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:35 pm    Post subject:

Congrats Hugo

alright, well, we have some interesting things happening so next up Summer League.

Let's go Lakers!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:35 pm    Post subject:

This pick, at first glance, felt a little lacking relative to its position (35th), but there's a lot of people who swear by Christie (Sam Vecenie had him 27th, Coach Spins of the Box and One had him 18th!!!!; and nbadraft.net had him 15th). This didn't bear out in the numbers, but that means he must have a lot of intangibles and the desire/ability to fulfill his ceiling at some point. Kind of interesting to reconcile that dissonance.

I had Christie ranked 51st, and if the Lakers wanted a shooter, I was a much bigger fan of the next pick (Gabriele Procida, who I had ranked 13th) or Vince Williams Jr (32nd). Both Procida and Williams popped way more defensively than Christie did, for shooters. That's an important component to get past the dime-a-dozen shooter label.

I suspect the Lakers were really targeting a shooter, especially with well-documented issues with our alphas not really having much gravity to begin with. But the last time the Lakers actively targeted shooter-shooter types, they didn't end up that well (Svi Mykhailiuk 2018, Anthony Brown 2015). Our scouts are way better when they draft or sign ballhandling wizards, and/or hustle and fill-in-the-blanks guys- see Josh Hart, Thomas Bryant, Larry Nance, Zubac, Austin Reaves, Clarkson, Caruso.

Statistically, Christie's freshman season draws a straight line to Anthony Brown - there's a lot of weird similarities there. Tony Snell was the closest match, and Snell's another guy who looks the part but just ends up being invisible 99% of the time. So that gives you the sense that we're talking about guys who are just so minimalist, so docile on the court, that might actually take away their gravity. Christie might be able to shoot, but first he needs to actually shoot (and shoot well) to derive actual gravity. We have Phil Handy and Darvin Ham who are good at player development/empowering players, but couldn't we have empowered Procida or Williams Jr? He kind of has the Svi problem - both can leap, but both are very skinny, lack toughness, can't get to the basket and really lack that sort of "horizontal" athleticism and deflection-ability. Usually, from that vantage point, that doesn't bode well for the league.

But you can't get past the fact that many scouts just seem to love him. He's only 19 years old, was a 5-star recruit, and is a very high character kid. Where he might not be like Snell (or Anthony Brown) is his competitiveness on the court, even if it not bear out in the stats. He's a smart guy (4.1 GPA senior year), volunteers, and just seems to a guy who will eventually figure it out. Vecenie notes his pristine shooting mechanics (spot-up and off Klay cuts) and even raves about his defense. The defense is interesting - he's dark red in so many categories, but both Box and one and Sam really love his length and how he moves. It will truly be interesting to see how a guy with not much rebounding or deflection impact can defend at the level these scouts seem to impart on him. I should note he did average 10 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 blocks in high school, but everyone seems to put inflated stats in HS. I guess it's easy to see the Lakers being attracted to the idea that he can bring gravity and that roving defense, combined with his persona and youth. We have seen teams overdraft shooting in the past (Josh Primo last year, even Pat Baldwin Jr this year) so I guess it's the Lakers' turn to speculate. You could also argue, at least we didn't draft Pat Baldwin or Caleb Houstan as our shooters the way the Warriors or Magic did - those would be seemingly worse picks.

I also wonder how much we valued EJ Liddell--6 of the 7 teams above us also drafted worse prospects than Liddell, so we're not the only ones-but he was definitely a value play at 35. His power-3/4 game rates better than Stanley Johnson and Wenyen, but we're clearly too invested in those two despite their limitations. But Rob in the post-draft conference made a comment about kind of acknowledging picking a young player with higher upside, and well, Vince Williams Jr and Liddell are older, and it's clear they believe Christie has higher upside. That was a point of emphasis that he might have went top 20 in next year's draft, so they think by pre-drafting him this year in the 2nd round, it's a steal.

Obviously our FO should have the benefit of the doubt, and seem especially good at zoning in on that character trait/hidden quality that makes a player achieve their ceiling. Christie does have that in spades, and we'll see how this goes. It's also interesting to note our own interaction with him in the draft was with an interview - and judging from his post-draft interview, he speaks very well. That might have sealed the deal.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:35 pm    Post subject:

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Syracuse sharpshooter Cole Swider has agreed to a two-way contract with the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell @TheAthletic@Stadium. Swider and Pippen Jr. take over the Lakers‘ two slots.


2 way contracts filled.


This is news to my ears. I'm glad that we are giving Cole Swider the 2 way. I think he will eventually be signed to a regular contract.
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