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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:06 pm    Post subject:

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Dwight Howard tells
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on the walk-off that Frank Vogel told him he wasn't going to play tonight, and he was "kind of down." But he says he stayed ready even though he wasn't expecting to play, and was happy he was able to make an impact.

DH needs to start.

Dwight has not been the same Dwight as 2 years ago. He is older now. It's showing. But today he was the Dwight we were getting 2 years ago.

Memories are sort of stuck back in 2019. Dwight's aged and hasn't shown the same stuff either. This was a great game. Rondo also played well. I think DAJ/Dwight are fine in the limited minutes they play. What changed things for us was that we had some outstanding perimeter D tonight. Monk, Reaves, Westbrook, Ellington, all fought hard on screens.

Maybe helped we saw this team a little while ago and read their schemes better.


I definitely had 2019 flashbacks with that extended defensive dominance - especially in the interior. Now *that* is a joy to watch. Reminds me how much I really liked our 2019 club; you knew night in, night out, we were gonna be a PITA for folks because of the D.

I'm really hoping the rhythm they found tonight sticks with them. By about 7 minutes in the 4th I could feel the team just flowing together. That sort of stuff is what allows teams like the Suns (minus Booker) or suddenly the Dubs (still minus Klay) to be so damn competitive. When a team is sluggish, out of synch, etc, it's like someone who has never danced trying to dance...awkward, odd looking.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:08 pm    Post subject:

BTW cant wait for DB's summary. Gonna be a good one with the first dominant win of the year
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:24 pm    Post subject:

67-33 in the second half...

Have the Lakers finally discovered the...

Fountain of Defense?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:28 pm    Post subject:

Jesus, does it take this performance for Vogel to realize Howard is still much better than DeAndre Jordan????? We fans knew this from the beginning
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:31 pm    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
ScHoolBoy B wrote:
Dwight Howard tells
@LakersReporter
on the walk-off that Frank Vogel told him he wasn't going to play tonight, and he was "kind of down." But he says he stayed ready even though he wasn't expecting to play, and was happy he was able to make an impact.

DH needs to start.

Dwight has not been the same Dwight as 2 years ago. He is older now. It's showing. But today he was the Dwight we were getting 2 years ago.

Memories are sort of stuck back in 2019. Dwight's aged and hasn't shown the same stuff either. This was a great game. Rondo also played well. I think DAJ/Dwight are fine in the limited minutes they play. What changed things for us was that we had some outstanding perimeter D tonight. Monk, Reaves, Westbrook, Ellington, all fought hard on screens.

Maybe helped we saw this team a little while ago and read their schemes better.


Even a slightly faded Dwight is still much better than Jordan simply because of his physicality and defensive IQ. Jordan is pretty much worthless when he lost his athleticism. Dwight is still a very useful NBA player
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:55 pm    Post subject:

1995Lakers wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
ScHoolBoy B wrote:
Dwight Howard tells
@LakersReporter
on the walk-off that Frank Vogel told him he wasn't going to play tonight, and he was "kind of down." But he says he stayed ready even though he wasn't expecting to play, and was happy he was able to make an impact.

DH needs to start.

Dwight has not been the same Dwight as 2 years ago. He is older now. It's showing. But today he was the Dwight we were getting 2 years ago.

Memories are sort of stuck back in 2019. Dwight's aged and hasn't shown the same stuff either. This was a great game. Rondo also played well. I think DAJ/Dwight are fine in the limited minutes they play. What changed things for us was that we had some outstanding perimeter D tonight. Monk, Reaves, Westbrook, Ellington, all fought hard on screens.

Maybe helped we saw this team a little while ago and read their schemes better.


Even a slightly faded Dwight is still much better than Jordan simply because of his physicality and defensive IQ. Jordan is pretty much worthless when he lost his athleticism. Dwight is still a very useful NBA player


What changed things for us tonight is not having the first action a team does leading to a layup - that was all DH IMHO. So now our perimiter guys have a chance to play a little D. Sactown sucks --in fact -- most of the teams we've played suck. We just can't defend and we leak like a sieve and that's largely due to DAJ who just doesn't have anything left at the NBA level. Given an average defense - we'll win our share of games. Given unlocked bank vault defense - any team that tries and gives even the slightest push will beat us. DH at least puts up a savy hard working security guard like Defense with the IQ to anticipate threats to our paint.

I can't say enough for this - DH just has to play -- regardless of how much he's lost from 2 years ago. We simply have no other good options and DH is at least passable to good -- to sometimes possibly spectacular!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:58 pm    Post subject:

DrDent wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
ScHoolBoy B wrote:
Dwight Howard tells
@LakersReporter
on the walk-off that Frank Vogel told him he wasn't going to play tonight, and he was "kind of down." But he says he stayed ready even though he wasn't expecting to play, and was happy he was able to make an impact.

DH needs to start.

Dwight has not been the same Dwight as 2 years ago. He is older now. It's showing. But today he was the Dwight we were getting 2 years ago.

Memories are sort of stuck back in 2019. Dwight's aged and hasn't shown the same stuff either. This was a great game. Rondo also played well. I think DAJ/Dwight are fine in the limited minutes they play. What changed things for us was that we had some outstanding perimeter D tonight. Monk, Reaves, Westbrook, Ellington, all fought hard on screens.

Maybe helped we saw this team a little while ago and read their schemes better.


I definitely had 2019 flashbacks with that extended defensive dominance - especially in the interior. Now *that* is a joy to watch. Reminds me how much I really liked our 2019 club; you knew night in, night out, we were gonna be a PITA for folks because of the D.

I'm really hoping the rhythm they found tonight sticks with them. By about 7 minutes in the 4th I could feel the team just flowing together. That sort of stuff is what allows teams like the Suns (minus Booker) or suddenly the Dubs (still minus Klay) to be so damn competitive. When a team is sluggish, out of synch, etc, it's like someone who has never danced trying to dance...awkward, odd looking.


He won the championship with us in October of 2020 not 2019. Honestly I don't really see that much of a difference between last year and this year....Seems like the same player
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:35 pm    Post subject:

Hustle and ball movement produced a win, who knew this could happen??
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:12 am    Post subject:

Lucky_Shot wrote:
DrDent wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
ScHoolBoy B wrote:
Dwight Howard tells
@LakersReporter
on the walk-off that Frank Vogel told him he wasn't going to play tonight, and he was "kind of down." But he says he stayed ready even though he wasn't expecting to play, and was happy he was able to make an impact.

DH needs to start.

Dwight has not been the same Dwight as 2 years ago. He is older now. It's showing. But today he was the Dwight we were getting 2 years ago.

Memories are sort of stuck back in 2019. Dwight's aged and hasn't shown the same stuff either. This was a great game. Rondo also played well. I think DAJ/Dwight are fine in the limited minutes they play. What changed things for us was that we had some outstanding perimeter D tonight. Monk, Reaves, Westbrook, Ellington, all fought hard on screens.

Maybe helped we saw this team a little while ago and read their schemes better.


I definitely had 2019 flashbacks with that extended defensive dominance - especially in the interior. Now *that* is a joy to watch. Reminds me how much I really liked our 2019 club; you knew night in, night out, we were gonna be a PITA for folks because of the D.

I'm really hoping the rhythm they found tonight sticks with them. By about 7 minutes in the 4th I could feel the team just flowing together. That sort of stuff is what allows teams like the Suns (minus Booker) or suddenly the Dubs (still minus Klay) to be so damn competitive. When a team is sluggish, out of synch, etc, it's like someone who has never danced trying to dance...awkward, odd looking.


He won the championship with us in October of 2020 not 2019. Honestly I don't really see that much of a difference between last year and this year....Seems like the same player


That was the 2019-2020 season, which means...they also played in 2019. Nowhere were the comments about tonight's second half performance limited to the precise time they won a championship. Rather, it was a reference to the season. To that end, if we are being that pedantic, your post is no more correct, or incorrect, than what else was written.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:15 am    Post subject:

So… all we’ve needed all along is a Dwight size effort from everybody
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:45 am    Post subject:

The Laker defense finally showed up. Good defense leads to good offense. It would take too much energy to play the way they did in the 3rd for 48. It has to be paced. If we gauge and play we could win a lot of games.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:16 pm    Post subject:

They actually showed heart and hustle out there.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:34 pm    Post subject:

AJ wrote:
They actually showed heart and hustle out there.

I know he's key but the team seems to play harder when Bron's not in the lineup. If they played that way all the time we'd have a better record.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:06 am    Post subject:

NEXT GAME:
    Los Angeles Lakers vs Los Angeles Clippers
    Staples Center, Los Angeles, CA | Friday, Dec. 03, 2021 • 7:00 PM PT
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