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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:48 am    Post subject:

Yeah, people will point to his "super high %" but the guy is so trash if you just watch him play on both ends. I can def. see why a team who's biggest weakness is a rim protecting big happily released him even though he was great friends with there best player.. That kind of speaks volumes and i'm seeing why the Nets did it.

Kind of sad when we think a guy sitting at the end of the Kings bench would be a clear improvement over him.

If DJ just sat at the end of our bench and was here for pure insurance or spot rest management help i'd get it but starting is kind of pathetic tbh. I'm hoping once Bron returns or even Ariza they give DJ tons of "games off" going forward. They are pretty thin up front and are going to have to either make a tough decision on releasing a guard or making a trade because they clearly need at least one more front court guy pretty badly.

I wouldn't even mind seeing Sekou get some chances with our actual rotation guys in non garbage time minutes here and there. I'm having a hard time seeing it be much worse then playing DJ and at least there's some potential upside there.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:53 am    Post subject:

good to have for the Gobert, Jokic, west playoff slugs
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:46 pm    Post subject:

After rewatching the LBJ and Stewart incident, I was amused at De Andre Jordan's defensive stance when Steward was charging towards LBJ. That moment where he bulldozed those coaches people restraining him just to reach to the Lakers side.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:10 am    Post subject:

he shouldn't be starting. And we should have tried harder to keep Drummond, if we were just gonna let Gasol stay in Spain.

That said, I wonder who we'd have to package him with to try to get Myles Turner from Indiana.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:39 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
he shouldn't be starting. And we should have tried harder to keep Drummond, if we were just gonna let Gasol stay in Spain.

That said, I wonder who we'd have to package him with to try to get Myles Turner from Indiana.


THT most likely.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:48 am    Post subject:

played pretty well in the last 2 games.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:51 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
good to have for the Gobert, Jokic, west playoff slugs


DJ gets manhandled by Jokic.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6NZ59ctP4pY

You actually need Dwight for those big matchups, NOT DJ.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:07 pm    Post subject:

Lonzo-Lite wrote:
governator wrote:
good to have for the Gobert, Jokic, west playoff slugs


DJ gets manhandled by Jokic.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6NZ59ctP4pY

You actually need Dwight for those big matchups, NOT DJ.


Yeah, DJ is the last guy you put on Jokic especially in the Playoffs, that's a Nightmare waiting to happen. Once the Playoffs roll around AD will have his big boy pants on so he'll be more likely to guard those guys as well a bit more but other then him I agree Dwight is the big you roll with as he can guard perimeter oriented bigs SUBSTANTIALLY better then DJ can and tbf better then most bigs period really.

I will say DJ has been playing much better the last couple and has at least showed some actual effort consistently throughout the games. Still not a fan of him getting many minutes but it is what it is at this point.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:04 pm    Post subject:

Why do we think he’s getting so many more minutes and Howard.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:24 pm    Post subject:

Dunno what Vogel and DJ talked about, but hopefully they talk about it again every game and DJ never plays again.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:27 pm    Post subject:

DAJ or Marc? If u had a gun to your head and had to pick one of these lumbering slugs.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:32 pm    Post subject:

Marc Gasol, easily.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:27 am    Post subject:

Lakerz113 wrote:
Why do we think he’s getting so many more minutes and Howard.


Thanks for responding Vogel.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:51 am    Post subject:

He's completely done as a basketball player.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:24 am    Post subject:

Dwight > DJ and it isn't even close. DJ was once a solid rim protector and P/R guy but he has lost a step and has no game to translate to. Dwight has lost a step but still moves his feet well and can be a solid defender.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:49 am    Post subject:

We are 9-7 with DAJ starting (5-3 when Bron starts with DAJ).
We are 3-4 without DAJ starting and AD playing the 5 full time.

So far we've been better with DAJ starting (whatever this means for our rotations and how we begin games) than without.

I think we are a better team when DAJ starts. When he's on, you play him. When he's off you go with Dwight. Dwight hasn't been the same Dwight of 2 years ago either. But out bigs are also going to be far more effective if we play defense like yesterday AND if we keep attacking the paint. Dwight had a special game yesterday, after a few games off. Vogel lit a fire in Dwight. I don't expect Dwight to play like that all the time.

If we swing the ball and shoot 3s our DAJ/Dwight combo is useless. If we don't fight through screens, again, useless on D. We need to play as a team. If our perimeter guys stick to their man and fight hard through screens then our bigs with their length and size can really cause havoc on D.

Since we clearly are a different team, with an old school set up, having paint touches via post ups or ball penetration is a must on offense. When we get this, the opposing team moves and adjusts and there is an opening for DAJ to hammer one. We lacked this weapon last year with Gasol. For all the love Gasol got (after first getting a lot of hate) Gasol was a guy that mostly just stood outside. We have bigs this year that will crash the glass and also play above the rim. We need to use them. I don't think Lebron even, has played anywhere near to the IQ he needs (and I expect he will) play with eventually. When we actually play like a team with a purpose to get the ball inside and then create a shot, we're looking very good with having bigs like DAJ/Dwight.
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