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LakersRGolden Star Player
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 7922 Location: Lake Forest
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:10 am Post subject: |
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RG73 wrote: | waterman40 wrote: | If you are making this thread, you have to choose either Kobe or MJ as your shooting guard. Neither are legit. SF's. Otherwise...
PG Captain America
SG Ironman
SF Hulk
PF Spiderman
C Thor |
Everyone knows Hulk is a 5 and Thor is a 4. Spidey is a 2/3. Cap and Stark battle for who runs the point. |
Hawkeye would definitely by my shooter. |
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LakerDYnasty72 Star Player
Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 4568
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:20 am Post subject: Re: Kareem, Kobe, Magic, Lebron, Jordan - Give me another 5 that can take them |
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nomoreshaq wrote: | All in their primes:
Kareem - 5
Lebron - 4
Kobe - 3
Jordan - 2
Magic - 1
This is my all-time team. Can anyone come up with another lineup that can take them? And, none of this "Wilt can play PG, Hakeem at SG, Russell at SF, Shaq at PF" kinda stuff. Like, legitimate positions they actually played in/logged in minutes at.
Kareem obviously is the 5.
Lebron came in as a 3 but has been a 3/4 his whole career.
Kobe is a little undersized to be a 3 (i guess) but him and MJ can swap the 2/3 spots whole damn game and either/or could obviously man the 2/3 spots.
Magic would be a SF/PF now but he historically played 1 his whole career.
The amount of interchangeability would be absolutely insane.
Kobe - 1/2/3
Magic - 1/2/3/4/5
Jordan - 1/2/3
Lebron - 1/2/3/4/5
Kareem - 5 |
I can appreciate that all time team. My list is not my all time list. Just a list that I think can truly compete with, or even beat your team, but I like your team. It's phenomenal.
Michael Jordan wisely refrained from referring to himself as the GOAT. He knew that he had not seen the other greats before his career to make a comparison. My point is that an all time great team is based only on the all time one has been able to observe, especially in their primes.
That said, here's a team to challenge yours:
5.Wilt
4.Tim Duncan
3.Scottie Pippen
2.Kawhi Leonard
1.Oscar Robertson |
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Lucky_Shot Star Player
Joined: 10 Jan 2016 Posts: 5140
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:46 am Post subject: |
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Curry
R. Allen
Klay
KD
Shaq
Not sure if they win but Shaq surrounded by the best 3 point shooters ever sounds good. |
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MJST Retired Number
Joined: 06 Jul 2014 Posts: 26309
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Are we not allowed to use the same players in the lineup that you're using? If that's the case
PG: Steph Curry
SG: Jerry West
SF: Larry Bird
PF: Karl Malone
C: Wilt Chamberlain _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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nevitt_smrek Star Player
Joined: 15 Jun 2009 Posts: 2803
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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What about adding Giannis Freak at center to those 2017 "Dubs" that had Splash, Durant, Green? _________________ Smrek 2, Nevitt 1, Barkley 0 |
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michaelg Starting Rotation
Joined: 30 Jul 2001 Posts: 380 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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1 - Steph Curry
2 - Larry Bird
3 - Kevin Durant
4 - Hakeem Olajuwon
5 - Shaq
Overwhelming you with my shooting and size. I can’t see the chemistry working on your team. |
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Laker4lifer4real Star Player
Joined: 15 Jul 2017 Posts: 3483
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:11 am Post subject: |
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waterman40 wrote: | If you are making this thread, you have to choose either Kobe or MJ as your shooting guard. Neither are legit. SF's. Otherwise...
PG Captain America
SG Ironman
SF Hulk
PF Spiderman
C Thor |
I go with….
PG Superman
SG Ironman
SF Spiderman
PF Batman
C Hulk |
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Annihilator Star Player
Joined: 02 Jul 2001 Posts: 4035
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:32 am Post subject: |
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Laker4lifer4real wrote: | waterman40 wrote: | If you are making this thread, you have to choose either Kobe or MJ as your shooting guard. Neither are legit. SF's. Otherwise...
PG Captain America
SG Ironman
SF Hulk
PF Spiderman
C Thor |
I go with….
PG Superman
SG Ironman
SF Spiderman
PF Batman
C Hulk |
A few comments.
#1: The outer suits of Ironman and Batman are not within NBA regulations--they wouldn't be allowed on the court. Also, the shield of Captain America would not be permitted. Without these extra accoutrements, the individuals themselves probably wouldn't be phenomenal basketball players.
#2: With Superman, the NBA would have to change the rule for traveling.
#3: No one has mentioned Bullseye? How about the Flash? Now, he would be an excellent offensive and defensive player.
#4: Lex Luther would be an excellent coach.
#5: The archfiends are probably already members of the NBRA. |
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ThePageDude Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:58 am Post subject: |
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Annihilator wrote: |
#3: No one has mentioned Bullseye? How about the Flash? Now, he would be an excellent offensive and defensive player.
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I'm thinking the other team would need Mr. Fantastic to setup a defensive perimeter at center-court extending sideline-to-sideline all the way up to the rafters ... |
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LakersInFour Star Player
Joined: 16 Apr 2001 Posts: 6725 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:35 am Post subject: |
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CandyCanes wrote: | LakersInFour wrote: | No one could beat a team with Jordan and Kobe on it - they're 1-2 at the same position. There's simply no one in history that even approaches MJ or Kobe at the 2 guard.
But if the rules are that Kobe and Jordan could not be on the same team, then you can construct many iterations of teams that would be competitive. For example:
Kareem - 5
Duncan - 4
Lebron - 3
Jordan - 2
Magic - 1
vs
Wilt - 5
Garnet - 4
Bird - 3
Kobe - 2
Oscar - 1
That's a pickem game.
There are many iterations of a competitive matchup you can form as long as you stick to the rule that Kobe and Jordan can not be on the same team. |
What about Wade or Harden? |
Man I would pay good money to see Harden getting brought to tears facing a defense that had Kobe and Jordan on the wings. Kobe would shut down his scoring, and Jordan roaming on defense would shut down his passing attack. Think of how good the 90's Bulls were with Pippen defending the point of attack and Jordan roaming defensively - Kobe was an even better defender than Pippen. Harden would finish shooting 30% from the field with a bunch of turnovers.
On offense they would take turns abusing him however they wanted: On an island, in the post, putting him the PnR. Whoever he was guarding would drop 40 on Harden.
Wade wouldn't get disrespected the way Harden would but he's not going to win an individual matchup defensively vs Kobe or MJ, let alone having to score or facilitate an offense vs a defense with both of them on the wings.
Kobe/MJ are top tier of shooting guards all time. Wade is tier 2. Harden is tier 3. That's what is wrong with his game, BTW, and why he will never win a chip as the best player on the team. He is skilled, and crafty, and optimizes his playstyle, but he flat out is lacking in the genetics department. He couldn't hang athletically with Kobe/MJ, or even D.Wade.
In the playoffs when the games get physical, and defenses adjust and key in to take away your strengths, Harden simply lacks the fast twitch muscles to elevate his play to be able to complete on that level. _________________ "It’s like going to the Getty and standing in front of Van Gogh’s Irises while some schmuck next to you critiques individual brush strokes. Just shut up already. The more you talk, the more you embarrass yourself." |
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miggz23 Star Player
Joined: 29 Nov 2018 Posts: 6758
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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I'll play...
Curry
Jordan
KD
Lebron
Shaq |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 12712
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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PG: Tierre Brown
SG: Javaris Crittenton
SF: Devin Ebanks
PF: Derrick Caracter
C: Robert Sacre |
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Balto Starting Rotation
Joined: 25 Jun 2019 Posts: 603
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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I really think its hard to leave Shaq off when your thinking Prime/at the players best! people forget how dominating he really was |
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STiG909 Star Player
Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 1687 Location: Inland Empire
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: Kareem, Kobe, Magic, Lebron, Jordan - Give me another 5 that can take them |
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nomoreshaq wrote: | All in their primes:
Kareem - 5
Lebron - 4
Kobe - 3
Jordan - 2
Magic - 1
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Without using any of the same players
5, Shaq
4, Giannis(have him guard Kareem on the block)
3, Durant
2, Moncrief
1, Stockton
Winning on defense and paint domination. |
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70sdude Star Player
Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 4567
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:28 am Post subject: fun to speculate, but |
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It's just dreaming, but how about:
Duncan
Durant
Iguodala
Klay
Curry
This team poses a mixed era fantasy conundrum. The OP's team has a couple big weak areas, maybe three or more things for the Warriors to exploit. My version of the improved GSW could be devastatingly good at attacking the OP's dream team:
Three point shooting differentials, enormous !
Defensive intensity, quickness (Magic Johnson is attackable, as is Curry
Inability to handle a second big man who moves as well as Durant
A great modern team - given today's rules and officiating - has many advantages if facing the MJ dream unit. Floor spacing and sanctions on playing hands-on rough is a killer for MJ's bunch, I think. Magic Johnson could be worn down and broken down defensively in half court by any one of the guys of my offering.
We'd pay to see it, huh ? |
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GOODRICH25 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Steph
Wade
KD
Duncan
Hakeem
Or bench one of Duncan/Hakeem for Giannis, to have more ball handlers _________________ 48 49 50 52 53 54 72 80 82
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 58336
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Best versions of below players:
Duncan
Bird
Kawhi
Durant
Pippen
Need the elite wing size and D to match up with all the wings on the the other side, that length to challenge Kobe/MJ shots. Pippen was excellent on Magic in the 90-91 Finals.
Pip/Bird share PG duties on offense, Pip brings the ball up ala Triangle. Durant is one of the greatest scorers ever. Can stay with Kobe/MJ. Duncan at his best is one of the best at floor spacing and playing inside.
Honestly think my team would have better chemistry and probably give them a great playoff match up. |
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