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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:03 pm Post subject: Welcome to Lakers Joel Ayayi UDFA |
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Solid pick up. Signed to 2 way
https://www.slipperstillfits.com/2021/7/29/22600999/2021-nba-draft-joel-ayayi-goes-undrafted
https://www.kxly.com/nba-draft-preview-joel-ayayi/
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Outstanding cutter with natural feel for angles and timing to get open, and is a strong catch-and-finisher around the rim.
Great shooter with a clean release from NBA range. He’s at his best off the catch but he’ll hit an occasional shot off a screen, handoff, or pull-up.
Good playmaker who can make every basic pass and push the ball up the floor on the break. He also displays vision to make more complex plays.
Active on-ball defender who consistently puts effort into getting stops. With his combo of a high IQ and effort, he should fit in the league.
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Lacks shake as a primary ball handler. He doesn’t have dynamic moves like stepbacks or side steps, and he’s not a speedy or explosive athlete. He’s more likely a secondary shot-creating presence.
Improved every college season on defense, though he must continue to get stronger and quicker laterally to retain his versatility. |
Via The RInger where he was projected to go 38. _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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Practice Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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He’s a really good fit for this team given how great he is off ball. |
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ContagiousInspiration Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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How did he go undrafted... what shenanigans did the Lakers pull? |
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LFsnz67 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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NBA draft.net had him projected at 30.
"Ayayi is a tall lead guard with tremendous quickness and intriguing skills … He’s a solid playmaker who developed a consistent outside jumper during his career at Gonzaga … High basketball IQ and excellent cutter to create easy buckets for himself … Improved from 27% to 39% from three-point range from his freshman to junior year showing his dedication to working on his shot and game" |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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ContagiousInspiration wrote: | How did he go undrafted... what shenanigans did the Lakers pull? |
Doubt the Lakers did anything. His draft stock must have fallen a lot since he was projected early 2nd round at worst. |
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Megaton Retired Number
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a2j1m Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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So we got a player we could of gotten at our 22 pick 😂 dope |
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panamaniac Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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I love this pickup. I hope he sticks. Really crafty without the ball on offense. |
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Laker_Jocker Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Love, Love, Love this! Salvages an otherwise “yet another Lakers don’t get a draft pick” day…crazy!!!!!👍✌️ |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Austin reaves was supposed to go in early second round too |
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misterchipmunk Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Love this pickup! Very surprised he wasn't drafted.
Jalen Suggs gets a lot of credit on that Gonzaga team but Ayayi is pretty damn good reason they were good as well. |
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levon Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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did they just pick this dude up because he looks like Bronny James? |
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BEazy Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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I like this because he plays off ball. If you can play off ball you can play with a lot of superstars. Solid pick up for the Lakers. Looks like we didn't need that draft pick after all. |
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Mark10 45 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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ScHoolBoy B wrote: | I like this because he plays off ball. If you can play off ball you can play with a lot of superstars. Solid pick up for the Lakers. Looks like we didn't need that draft pick after all. |
not only can he play off-ball but he's the best cutter in the draft...like it's actually a skill when you see how unique he is at it. and he's good at feeding a player with an advantage.
defensively he might just be good as well..some promising stuff, but I'm not 100% solid just yet..but good chance he's good defensively. |
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hydrohead Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Kid looks like he has a nice feel for the game. High IQ players like Lebron and Gasol could really maximize his talents. _________________ Darvin |
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fansincemagic Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:45 am Post subject: |
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misterchipmunk wrote: | Love this pickup! Very surprised he wasn't drafted.
Jalen Suggs gets a lot of credit on that Gonzaga team but Ayayi is pretty damn good reason they were good as well. |
Yeah very well rounded player, this was a steal. |
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Laker_Jocker Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Ayayi & Mac >>>>>>>>> #22, Kostas (leaving anyway), Cacok (couldn't get minutes anyway)
These guys BOTH need to be the 2-ways for 2021-2022. Friggin' STEAL as UDFAs. Could be potential replacements for THT and Caruso, IMO. |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Laker_Jocker wrote: | Ayayi & Mac >>>>>>>>> #22, Kostas (leaving anyway), Cacok (couldn't get minutes anyway)
These guys BOTH need to be the 2-ways for 2021-2022. Friggin' STEAL as UDFAs. Could be potential replacements for THT and Caruso, IMO. |
Lol THT ain't going anywhere. Caruso I think will stay too.
No, those guys aren't replacements for them. They are potential depth signings to fill the void at the 2 and 3 spot that we desperately need. _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Welcome Joel 2-Wayayi - best of luck! |
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The God Particle Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:57 am Post subject: |
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I don't think he'll stick.
Too small and unathletic for the 2G position. Too rudimentary a handle for the PG position. Andrew Goudelock-ish. |
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Mark10 45 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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The God Particle wrote: | I don't think he'll stick.
Too small and unathletic for the 2G position. Too rudimentary a handle for the PG position. Andrew Goudelock-ish. |
he's a unique player. off-ball he can make an impact like Caruso - Ayayi is really a special cutter. And he's better on the ball than Caruso, running P&R; not great but better than Caruso (you don't need an above average handle to run P&R) he passes well to the roller..he's got high IQ, gets players with an advantage the ball, which is good with Superstars. and he might be a good shooter.
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Runway8 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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The God Particle wrote: | I don't think he'll stick.
Too small and unathletic for the 2G position. Too rudimentary a handle for the PG position. Andrew Goudelock-ish. |
6'5 is too small? As for handles, he's not a PG and won't be asked to be PG. |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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misterchipmunk wrote: | Love this pickup! Very surprised he wasn't drafted.
Jalen Suggs gets a lot of credit on that Gonzaga team but Ayayi is pretty damn good reason they were good as well. |
I think he's probably a long term project. Lakers probably thought it was worth the risk. He went from high 2nd round draft pick to being undrafted so that tells me NBA teams didn't like what they saw in workouts. The Gonzaga system probably masked his shortcomings. |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | misterchipmunk wrote: | Love this pickup! Very surprised he wasn't drafted.
Jalen Suggs gets a lot of credit on that Gonzaga team but Ayayi is pretty damn good reason they were good as well. |
I think he's probably a long term project. Lakers probably thought it was worth the risk. He went from high 2nd round draft pick to being undrafted so that tells me NBA teams didn't like what they saw in workouts. The Gonzaga system probably masked his shortcomings. |
Teams can also just be flat out wrong too.
We have a great scouting department for a reason. _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | misterchipmunk wrote: | Love this pickup! Very surprised he wasn't drafted.
Jalen Suggs gets a lot of credit on that Gonzaga team but Ayayi is pretty damn good reason they were good as well. |
I think he's probably a long term project. Lakers probably thought it was worth the risk. He went from high 2nd round draft pick to being undrafted so that tells me NBA teams didn't like what they saw in workouts. The Gonzaga system probably masked his shortcomings. |
Teams can also just be flat out wrong too.
We have a great scouting department for a reason. |
The draft doesn't do a good job of predicting NBA careers. We've seen 1st round picks out of the league after a couple of years and undrafted players becoming vital pieces of championship teams. It all depends on the work these guys put in after they get drafted. |
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