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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:10 am    Post subject:

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Sorry about post. I’m clearly fired up.

Last one.

BREAKING: Senate blocks Dems’ Paycheck Fairness Act in a 49-50 vote.

Kirsten Gillibrand was the senator who missed vote.


This is the dems in a nutshell. They needed 60 so even had she voted it wouldn’t have mattered but optics and narrative are all that is needed.


The headline is: "REPUBLICANS MISOGYNISTICALLY BLOCKED EQUAL PAY FOR WOMEN IN THE YEAR 2021." **

The headline is not that one particular Senator missed the vote (probably for personal reasons beyond her control). That actually happens fairly frequently on votes where a single vote won't change the outcome.

** And all the female Republican senators voted against it, including Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, etc. This is what institutional sexism looks like. They benefit from white male patriarchy so they vote with that tribe and betray the other women who aren't as fortunate as them. This is also why all Republicans are bad Republicans. Even the so-called moderates like Romney, Collins etc. They all voted against this. They all voted against COVID relief. And on and on. THEY ARE ALL TERRIBLE.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:23 am    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Sorry about post. I’m clearly fired up.

Last one.

BREAKING: Senate blocks Dems’ Paycheck Fairness Act in a 49-50 vote.

Kirsten Gillibrand was the senator who missed vote.


This is the dems in a nutshell. They needed 60 so even had she voted it wouldn’t have mattered but optics and narrative are all that is needed.


The headline is: "REPUBLICANS MISOGYNISTICALLY BLOCKED EQUAL PAY FOR WOMEN IN THE YEAR 2021." **

The headline is not that one particular Senator missed the vote (probably for personal reasons beyond her control). That actually happens fairly frequently on votes where a single vote won't change the outcome.

** And all the female Republican senators voted against it, including Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, etc. This is what institutional sexism looks like. They benefit from white male patriarchy so they vote with that tribe and betray the other women who aren't as fortunate as them. This is also why all Republicans are bad Republicans. Even the so-called moderates like Romney, Collins etc. They all voted against this. They all voted against COVID relief. And on and on. THEY ARE ALL TERRIBLE.

I get this, but she needs to cast her vote. Isnt she the one who banished the guy from Minny?

GOP can accurately state that even Gillibrand didnt vote for it. Thats all they need to add to their delusional toolbox.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:42 pm    Post subject:

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I was deeply grateful to be the guest of honor at yesterday’s Marine Corps Sunset Parade. Our service members put their lives on the line to keep us safe. It is my responsibility as a senator to make sure that the government you serve and defend is serving you as well
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:32 pm    Post subject:

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This is the type of crap that can cause voter disillusionment, cynicism, and low turnout.
Not saying we should throw our hands up in the air and stop fighting to increase voter engagement.
Just calling a piece of crap (Joe Manchin) what it is. A piece of crap.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:21 pm    Post subject:

Manchin will be ousted by the voters; he might as well stop being such a wuss and support his party.

He's more afraid of the Diet Koch Brothers than he is of his constituents.

He should go screw himself.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:27 pm    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Sorry about post. I’m clearly fired up.

Last one.

BREAKING: Senate blocks Dems’ Paycheck Fairness Act in a 49-50 vote.

Kirsten Gillibrand was the senator who missed vote.


This is the dems in a nutshell. They needed 60 so even had she voted it wouldn’t have mattered but optics and narrative are all that is needed.


The headline is: "REPUBLICANS MISOGYNISTICALLY BLOCKED EQUAL PAY FOR WOMEN IN THE YEAR 2021." **

The headline is not that one particular Senator missed the vote (probably for personal reasons beyond her control). That actually happens fairly frequently on votes where a single vote won't change the outcome.

** And all the female Republican senators voted against it, including Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, etc. This is what institutional sexism looks like. They benefit from white male patriarchy so they vote with that tribe and betray the other women who aren't as fortunate as them. This is also why all Republicans are bad Republicans. Even the so-called moderates like Romney, Collins etc. They all voted against this. They all voted against COVID relief. And on and on. THEY ARE ALL TERRIBLE.

I get this, but she needs to cast her vote. Isnt she the one who banished the guy from Minny?

GOP can accurately state that even Gillibrand didnt vote for it. Thats all they need to add to their delusional toolbox.


I’m not a fan of how she and some others treated Senator Franken, but there’s little doubt that she was excused from the cloture vote because it was known it wouldn’t pass. Whether that was to attend the marine corps service (although I don’t think one precluded the other) or simply because she has some other reason not to be on record, it is common to excuse senators/reps and even let them vote no on something when the outcome is already known.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:55 pm    Post subject:

Boston Globe

Link to something Rachel Maddow mentioned tonight. 6 part piece in Boston Globe on the many ways Trump corrupted the Presidency and how to prevent it in the future as well as the case for prosecuting Trump for his crimes while in office
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:55 pm    Post subject:

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The Kochs own a lot of real estate, but their best investment is the Manchin they bought in West Virginia.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:15 pm    Post subject:

How the hell is Manchin even a Democrat? I feel like 20+ years ago he would've been a Republican.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:02 am    Post subject:

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Manchin will be ousted by the voters; he might as well stop being such a wuss and support his party.

He's more afraid of the Diet Koch Brothers than he is of his constituents.

He should go screw himself.


Maybe he should become more interested in constituent polls and Dem vs Repub polls because the sh he's trying to prevent is very popular for Dems especially. I hope he's out of there no matter what. Because he's from WV, he thinks he's gotta walk lockstep w/ all the Rs in his state when he seems to forget that he is a bleeping Dem by title and still got voted in despite of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:22 am    Post subject:

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Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand @gillibrandny

I was deeply grateful to be the guest of honor at yesterday’s Marine Corps Sunset Parade. Our service members put their lives on the line to keep us safe. It is my responsibility as a senator to make sure that the government you serve and defend is serving you as well
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:05 am    Post subject:

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Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand @gillibrandny

I was deeply grateful to be the guest of honor at yesterday’s Marine Corps Sunset Parade. Our service members put their lives on the line to keep us safe. It is my responsibility as a senator to make sure that the government you serve and defend is serving you as well
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photos of ceremony

Photo op<voting for equal pay


You realize it was a cloture vote? If they had been close to sixty she’d be there? This was what is known as a messaging vote. Schummer making the GOP get on record against a bill for equal pay for women. No one who would vote for Gillibrand thinks she’s against it, and no one is winning anything on the other side saying she didn’t show up. This is an odd hill to be defending.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:09 am    Post subject:

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How the hell is Manchin even a Democrat? I feel like 20+ years ago he would've been a Republican.


Goes back to labor unions. Prior to civil rights West Virginia was democratic because the Dixiecrats and unions. Afterwards they mostly stayed dem because of unions. The gop has all but destroyed that (because like many rural areas, their racial identity is more important than their livelihood, and because on that front, the GOP backed big coal). He’s been offered to switch parties several times but has stuck it out, although he’s conservative by his own standard.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:09 am    Post subject:

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How the hell is Manchin even a Democrat? I feel like 20+ years ago he would've been a Republican.


Goes back to labor unions. Prior to civil rights West Virginia was democratic because the Dixiecrats and unions. Afterwards they mostly stayed dem because of unions. The gop has all but destroyed that (because like many rural areas, their racial identity is more important than their livelihood, and because on that front, the GOP backed big coal). He’s been offered to switch parties several times but has stuck it out, although he’s conservative by his own standard.


He's hiding behind "bipartisanship" arguments. But in reality, he doesn't support most of the Democratic Party's platform.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:09 am    Post subject:

Missed votes in 2020 for Democratic Senators (some of this was for presidential campaigning). And if their vote made the difference, they flew back and voted.

Missed Votes
The percentage of votes each legislator missed in the 116th Congress.

SENATE DEMOCRATS
most absent
#1 55.1% Sen. Harris [D-CA]
#2 40.6% Sen. Booker [D-NJ]
#3 39.6% Sen. Warren [D-MA]
#4 29.2% Sen. Klobuchar [D-MN]
#5 18.2% Sen. Bennet [D-CO]
#6 15.4% Sen. Gillibrand [D-NY]
#7 11.0% Sen. Markey [D-MA]
#8 8.3% Sen. Sinema [D-AZ]
#9 8.2% Sen. Whitehouse [D-RI]
#10 5.6% Sen. Murray [D-WA]
#11 5.1% Sen. Jones [D-AL]
#11 5.1% Sen. Schatz [D-HI]
#13 5.0% Sen. Stabenow [D-MI]
#14 3.8% Sen. Heinrich [D-NM]
#15 3.6% Sen. Coons [D-DE]
#16 3.3% Sen. Leahy [D-VT]
#17 3.2% Sen. Duckworth [D-IL]
#17 3.2% Sen. Tester [D-MT]
#19 3.1% Sen. Warner [D-VA]
#20 2.8% Sen. Hirono [D-HI]
#21 2.5% Sen. Kaine [D-VA]
#22 2.2% Sen. Cardin [D-MD]
#23 2.1% Sen. Manchin [D-WV]
#24 1.9% Sen. Udall [D-NM]
#25 1.8% Sen. Brown [D-OH]
#26 1.7% Sen. Durbin [D-IL]
#26 1.7% Sen. Wyden [D-OR]
#28 1.4% Sen. Feinstein [D-CA]
#29 1.3% Sen. Cantwell [D-WA]
#30 1.1% Sen. Blumenthal [D-CT]
#30 1.1% Sen. Shaheen [D-NH]
#32 1.0% Sen. Smith [D-MN]
#33 0.8% Sen. Menendez [D-NJ]
#33 0.8% Sen. Merkley [D-OR]
#35 0.7% Sen. Carper [D-DE]
#35 0.7% Sen. Cortez Masto [D-NV]
#35 0.7% Sen. Murphy [D-CT]
#35 0.7% Sen. Rosen [D-NV]
#39 0.6% Sen. Reed [D-RI]
#40 0.4% Sen. Baldwin [D-WI]
#41 0.3% Sen. Hassan [D-NH]
#41 0.3% Sen. Peters [D-MI]
#41 0.3% Sen. Van Hollen [D-MD]
#44 0.1% Sen. Casey [D-PA]
#44 0.1% Sen. Schumer [D-NY]
#46 0.0% Sen. Kelly [D-AZ]
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:18 am    Post subject:

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Omar Little wrote:
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How the hell is Manchin even a Democrat? I feel like 20+ years ago he would've been a Republican.


Goes back to labor unions. Prior to civil rights West Virginia was democratic because the Dixiecrats and unions. Afterwards they mostly stayed dem because of unions. The gop has all but destroyed that (because like many rural areas, their racial identity is more important than their livelihood, and because on that front, the GOP backed big coal). He’s been offered to switch parties several times but has stuck it out, although he’s conservative by his own standard.


He's hiding behind "bipartisanship" arguments. But in reality, he doesn't support most of the Democratic Party's platform.


He voted for COVID relief. No Republican in either the Senate or the House voted for COVID relief. He just voted to advance bill for pay equity for women (though bill did not advance due to filibuster). He and Toomey worked on a gun bill (that never went anywhere). He voted for a 1/6 investigation (almost no R's did).

Look, I loathe Manchin with a passion. But he's not a Republican. He's a conservative corporate Democrat.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:30 am    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
kikanga wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
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How the hell is Manchin even a Democrat? I feel like 20+ years ago he would've been a Republican.


Goes back to labor unions. Prior to civil rights West Virginia was democratic because the Dixiecrats and unions. Afterwards they mostly stayed dem because of unions. The gop has all but destroyed that (because like many rural areas, their racial identity is more important than their livelihood, and because on that front, the GOP backed big coal). He’s been offered to switch parties several times but has stuck it out, although he’s conservative by his own standard.


He's hiding behind "bipartisanship" arguments. But in reality, he doesn't support most of the Democratic Party's platform.


He voted for COVID relief. No Republican in either the Senate or the House voted for COVID relief. He just voted to advance bill for pay equity for women (though bill did not advance due to filibuster). He and Toomey worked on a gun bill (that never went anywhere). He voted for a 1/6 investigation (almost no R's did).

Look, I loathe Manchin with a passion. But he's not a Republican. He's a conservative corporate Democrat.


His Republican Governor agreed first to COVID relief. THEN he finally budged after being put in a politically tight situation.

And he still lashed out at Kamala for putting him in a position where he had to support the bill.

And any legislation that can't pass due to filibuster is squarely on he and Sinema's shoulders.

If he and Sinema actually supported the Democrat platform and not the Koch platform, they'd support taking out the filibuster.

In a very real life, affect millions of people's lives, sense. His actions are indistinguishable from Republicans.

In fact, by pretending to be a Democrat. He is hurting the party in ways out in the open Republicans never could.

I hope his daddy Koch never forgets to fill his water dish. People gotta take care of their pets.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:38 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:25 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
kikanga wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
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How the hell is Manchin even a Democrat? I feel like 20+ years ago he would've been a Republican.


Goes back to labor unions. Prior to civil rights West Virginia was democratic because the Dixiecrats and unions. Afterwards they mostly stayed dem because of unions. The gop has all but destroyed that (because like many rural areas, their racial identity is more important than their livelihood, and because on that front, the GOP backed big coal). He’s been offered to switch parties several times but has stuck it out, although he’s conservative by his own standard.


He's hiding behind "bipartisanship" arguments. But in reality, he doesn't support most of the Democratic Party's platform.


He voted for COVID relief. No Republican in either the Senate or the House voted for COVID relief. He just voted to advance bill for pay equity for women (though bill did not advance due to filibuster). He and Toomey worked on a gun bill (that never went anywhere). He voted for a 1/6 investigation (almost no R's did).

Look, I loathe Manchin with a passion. But he's not a Republican. He's a conservative corporate Democrat.


His Republican Governor agreed first to COVID relief. THEN he finally budged after being put in a politically tight situation.

And he still lashed out at Kamala for putting him in a position where he had to support the bill.

And any legislation that can't pass due to filibuster is squarely on he and Sinema's shoulders.

If he and Sinema actually supported the Democrat platform and not the Koch platform, they'd support taking out the filibuster.

In a very real life, affect millions of people's lives, sense. His actions are indistinguishable from Republicans.

In fact, by pretending to be a Democrat. He is hurting the party in ways out in the open Republicans never could.

I hope his daddy Koch never forgets to fill his water dish. People gotta take care of their pets.


Which is why it is important to ignore stated party affiliations and focus on what politicians actually say and do. I've said before, Manchin is a Dem in name only. That's it, he bears no semblance to actually being one. It's like when Bernie pretended to be a Democrat because it suited his aspirations for higher office. He was never and Democrat and never will be. Of course Manchin is far worse than Bernie because Manchin is an undeniable detriment to the party.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:20 pm    Post subject:

Caitlyn Jenner everyone!
https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1403027798264930304

If she wins. I'm going to think ALOT less of my home state.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:52 pm    Post subject:

Trump's stupid "statements" are being tweeted all over twitter, even by progressives. We all knew this would happen. They all miss him.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:27 pm    Post subject:

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Trump's stupid "statements" are being tweeted all over twitter, even by progressives. We all knew this would happen. They all miss him.

I know. its hilariously sad.
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Trump's stupid "statements" are being tweeted all over twitter, even by progressives. We all knew this would happen. They all miss him.

Unfortunately, they're keeping him relevant.
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Florida bans its schools from teaching critical race theory
On Thursday, Florida's State Board of Education unanimously voted in favor of an amendment banning the teaching of critical race theory in schools throughout the state. The theory, according to PolitiFact, is a collection of ideas about systemic bias and privilege "woven into" the US legal and economic systems. The move is the latest effort by Republican lawmakers and policymakers to prevent the teaching of the theory across the US, according to CNN.


https://twitter.com/i/events/1403362449043062784

Reason # 5,324,534,778 I don't (bleep) wit Florida.

"Purple state" my ass.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:36 pm    Post subject:

trump having his DOJ spy on Schiff and others seems like a big deal. lets see how Garland handles it.

Biden could have his DOJ kneecap trump and all of his lackeys to the point he or they could never run for office. Unfortunately they want to stick to protocols that have been shattered.

Maddow has been key in keeping the garland needing to do something narrative alive. Lets hope he watches her.
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