This is pathetic. A bunch of mediocre teams with little or no history of European success (such as Arsenal, Tottenham, Man City, Atletico Madrid) trying to force their way just because they have money.
It's a shame that huge teams like Man Utd, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Milan and Inter agreed with this (bleep).
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:59 pm Post subject:
Gatekeeper wrote:
Aon't quite understand why Tottenham and Arsenal think they deserve to be part of the "Big" six English clubs.
This I agree with. Rubbish. _________________ You are under no obligation to remain the same person you were a year ago, a month ago, or even a day ago. You are here to create yourself, continuously. - Richard Feynman
It's not about history or past success in European competitions, it's about having a global brand. Arsenal and Tottenham have lots of fans, even outside of England.
The TV money for this new league will be enormous. People will tune in and watch, even those that say they hate the idea. Bayern and PSG will eventually join, too. It's just too much money to say no. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid!
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:46 pm Post subject:
Wilt wrote:
It's not about history or past success in European competitions, it's about having a global brand. Arsenal and Tottenham have lots of fans, even outside of England.
The TV money for this new league will be enormous. People will tune in and watch, even those that say they hate the idea. Bayern and PSG will eventually join, too. It's just too much money to say no.
I'd agree with you on Arsenal, but Tottenham are perennial losers. That's their charm. _________________ You are under no obligation to remain the same person you were a year ago, a month ago, or even a day ago. You are here to create yourself, continuously. - Richard Feynman
It's not about history or past success in European competitions, it's about having a global brand. Arsenal and Tottenham have lots of fans, even outside of England.
The TV money for this new league will be enormous. People will tune in and watch, even those that say they hate the idea. Bayern and PSG will eventually join, too. It's just too much money to say no.
Obviously it is about money, but it is about European success too. You can't have one without the other. Those teams can't build a global brand if they're not consistently qualifying to the UCL.
See Arsenal, 3 straight years not getting in. And possibly not getting in again this year.
They want to force their presence when they can't do it consistently in the field.
The idea of having 15 clubs always in, regardless of anything else, is pathetic. It goes against everything that I believe is great about football.
Juventus have been eliminated 3 years straight by Ajax, Lyon and Porto GTFO with your global brand bullsh*t. The games are what matter.
What you believe is great about football is resulting in a financial catastrophe for big and small clubs.
Juventus and Arsenal are in because the other clubs that are in want them to be in. That's the whole point of a league where the clubs want to organize themselves, as opposed to being organized by UEFA or facing relegation. So yes, global brands matter. There is a reason why Arsenal is in and not Leicester, because no one outside of Leicester cares about Leicester, or Ajax or Lyon or Porto. The latter even won a UCL pretty recently, and no one cares about that team outside of Portugal.
And it's not about creating some egalitarian league where everybody is equally strong. Arsenal might suck every year in the Super League, but the other teams clearly wanted them to be included.
The biggest teams - in terms of global appeal - are losing hundreds of millions of dollars due to the pandemic, and those teams have decided that this is the only way for them to save themselves, as opposed to being stuck with UEFA. And if it comes down to watching Dortmund vs Brugge in the CL or Barcelona vs United in the Super League, you will watch the latter. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid!
Just my opinion...and I don't think it will happen, but I hope they make some improvements to the champions league. I think its too watered down. Maybe get rid of the group stage and make it all knock out rounds.
What you believe is great about football is resulting in a financial catastrophe for big and small clubs.
Then review the whole structure. More rigid financial fair play, salary and transfer cap, etc.
The sport and the competition aren't the ones who must suffer.
Watching Real Madrid x Man City 20 times a year isn't the solution to anything.
I'm just glad that this whole BS didn't survive for more than 24 hours.
And you expect UEFA to change that entire structure? The whole point of the Super League was that UEFA wasn't changing anything and making things worse.
It's one thing to be against the SL, it's another to exaggerate that Real Madrid would play Man City 20 times a year.
The reason UEFA was against this wasn't because of how many teams played in it, or even that teams could not be relegated, it's because UEFA would lose control and all these teams would make enormous amounts of money and UEFA would get nothing.
Here's a prediction: something like the Super League will be created eventually and it'll be created by UEFA, and all those idiot Liverpool fans that gathered in front of Anfield will be suddenly for it. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid!
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:48 pm Post subject:
France is just lethal on the counter-attack with certain players in the open field, especially Mbappe, of course. Even though Germany put in the own goal, I thought France had the game going the way it wanted.
Never been a Crisitiano Ronaldo fan (more of a Messi guy), but these are impressive achievements: 5th Euro championships (his first one was in 2004) and all-time Euro top scorer. _________________ “Properly read, the bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.”
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