View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
Triple-Threat-Lakers Star Player
Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 7504
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
lakerdynasty5.0 wrote: | A Day in the Life wrote: | Kobe's post game was amazing tonight. And we actually ran the offense "better" without Bynum tonight. |
It certainly seemed that way, don't know if its just that many lakers got hot or was there improved ball movement? |
I think it was a combo of both. Our players definitely were hot, but I think Kobe's post game just opens up the offense more than what Bynum would bring to the table. Kobe's just on another level in terms of the post. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Kobay24 Starting Rotation
Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Posts: 180
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
A Day in the Life wrote: | Kobe's post game was amazing tonight. And we actually ran the offense "better" without Bynum tonight. |
Of course the Lakers ran the offense better minus Benoit Bynum, who clogs the paint (taking post opportunitios AND shot attempts away from Kobe).
I rreally hope his elbow doesn't feel better by this Sunday. I wanna see Kobe go off again! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
City_Dawg Retired Number
Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 46884 Location: Coming soon and striking at your borders.
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
heheh1 wrote: | beres wrote: | Mbenga has more blocks than fouls for the person who made the tread poll |
Can we just conclude that outside of fouls DJ is just a better rebounder and shot blocker than Drew. |
No, but we can conclude that you're just a hater. _________________ *sighs*
!... |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Laker_Behemoth Star Player
Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 3012 Location: East Coast
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Kobay24 wrote: | What does it say about our $57 million dollar overpaid (bleep) when our 3rd string center is a better defensive player than he is.
Can't wait to get Gasol back. Can't say the same for Bynum. |
Yeah because it's not like he is averaging 20 and 10. _________________ "After watching Bryant and Cooper go at it for about 10 minutes West stood up, nodded at two team public-relations men he'd brought with him, and snapped, 'That's it, let's get out of here, I've seen enough. He's better than anyone on our team.'" |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Game #666 Starting Rotation
Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 897
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Mayo was just starstruck. Like he wanted Kobe to have a good game against him. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ForumBlueFrank Franchise Player
Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 12889
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Kobe had more room to work in the post tonight without two 7 footers occupying space. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
stare_at_GOATs Star Player
Joined: 24 Oct 2009 Posts: 1285
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
That's what happens when Kobe just goes and they don't worry about the triangle.
How many dunks was that? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
Joined: 17 Sep 2008 Posts: 21102 Location: In a white room, with black curtains near the station
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Mick3ns wrote: | best team in the league in my opinion.
I know it hasn't been pretty, but it all boils down to Pau Gasol. He changes our entire team for the better. The fact that we're winning these games without him is a HUGE positive, especially the back to back road games.
people can complain all they want, whether its about Fisher not playing D, or Bynum not doing anything right (the guy cant win) but at the end of the day, we're winning without our most important piece (arguably)...
my 2 cents |
I'm really surprised at how convincingly the Lakers won this game with Pau and Drew both sitting it out. Mbenga, Artest, Kobe, the bench went 15 for 31... Fisher scored efficiently for once... who didn't play good tonight? LO maybe, but we outrebounded the Grizz badly, only 8 turnovers, wow good effort top to bottom. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Stee Starting Rotation
Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 200
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
geez those last few minutes was poetry in motion.
Whats sad is most people are going to forget about this performance by the next game and start criticizing Kobe again. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
bertrome Star Player
Joined: 12 Apr 2001 Posts: 2209
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Pretty good night. Kobe with another tremendous performance and Boston, Denver & San Antonio lost. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
Joined: 17 Sep 2008 Posts: 21102 Location: In a white room, with black curtains near the station
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Lakers For Life wrote: | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | Lakers For Life wrote: | Did Kobe pass Iverson in all time scoring tonight?? |
With about 5 minutes left and he didn't look back. He leads AI by 7 now. |
Wow. Ironic he did it on the night he was playing Iverson. | |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Triple-Threat-Lakers Star Player
Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 7504
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Lol, at the Boston sucks from the crowd... |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Lakers For Life Franchise Player
Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 12609 Location: Not "at all" LMAO!
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Is someone gonna make a video of pure Kobe turn around jumpers?
I can watch that all day. Just mezmorizing. _________________ LAKERS ARE THE NBA CHAMPIONS |
|
Back to top |
|
|
stare_at_GOATs Star Player
Joined: 24 Oct 2009 Posts: 1285
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
ForumBlueFrank wrote: | Kobe had more room to work in the post tonight without two 7 footers occupying space. |
Bynum clogs it up and his defender clogs it up more.
He's still a step slower than usual. He's a slow magnet attracting extra defensive pressure close to the basket that Kobe didn't have to deal with tonight. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
srm90 Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 10662
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Kobay24 wrote: | What does it say about our $57 million dollar overpaid (bleep) when our 3rd string center is a better defensive player than he is.
Can't wait to get Gasol back. Can't say the same for Bynum. |
Harsh much? _________________ |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Triple-Threat-Lakers Star Player
Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 7504
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
^Lol |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Lakers For Life Franchise Player
Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 12609 Location: Not "at all" LMAO!
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Phil: "Finger in the dyke" _________________ LAKERS ARE THE NBA CHAMPIONS |
|
Back to top |
|
|
TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
Joined: 17 Sep 2008 Posts: 21102 Location: In a white room, with black curtains near the station
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Luca Brasi wrote: | lakers: 35 assists to only 8 TOs. that's ridiculous |
Friggin AWESOME!!! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
DrewBynum#17 Starting Rotation
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 513
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Kobay24 wrote: | What does it say about our $57 million dollar overpaid (bleep) when our 3rd string center is a better defensive player than he is.
Can't wait to get Gasol back. Can't say the same for Bynum. |
Mbenga fouls every time. He just blocks well.
And look the averages of Bynum, is doing great. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
City_Dawg Retired Number
Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 46884 Location: Coming soon and striking at your borders.
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Lakers For Life wrote: | Phil: "Finger in the dyke" |
That's hot. _________________ *sighs*
!... |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Mick3ns Star Player
Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 2607
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:17 pm Post subject: |
|
|
lmao @ taking anything Kobay says, seriously...
dude is playing a character, its pretty obvious. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
DrewBynum#17 Starting Rotation
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 513
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
DrewBynum#17 wrote: | Kobay24 wrote: | What does it say about our $57 million dollar overpaid (bleep) when our 3rd string center is a better defensive player than he is.
Can't wait to get Gasol back. Can't say the same for Bynum. |
Mbenga fouls every time. He just blocks well. And offensively is very poor.
And look the averages of Bynum, is doing great. |
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
JUST-MING Retired Number
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 44130
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Bynum has played better. He is clearly only around 80-90%.
JUST-MING wrote: | Pre-Season Expectations of Andrew Bynum
HoopsHype Blurb:
Quote: | Great size... Good hands... Very good low-post game... Hard to stop when he gets position down low, which happens very often... Quite a defensive and rebounding presence... Must improve comprehension of the game... Does not always play hard. |
Scouting Report:
Quote: | Overview: An extremely young center who has started to realize the potential that made him a lottery pick. Really tall, really long, and still very raw. Has an incredible frame that will put on as much weight as needed. Moves extremely well for a center, and has impressive leaping ability. Very agile and coordinated. Has great hands for a player his size. Good fit in Phil Jackson’s offense. One of the most efficient players in the league if his shortened performance in 2008 is any indication. Doesn’t have a lot of post moves, but scores by working off the ball and going at the rim aggressively. Has received tutelage from Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, which expedited the development of his post moves. Doesn’t show much of a jumper, but won’t ever be asked to play off the block. Rebounds the ball extremely well on both ends. Has become more adept as a help side defender, but still needs some experience to reach his potential defensively. Has a reputation for not always bringing great energy to the floor. Not the same player he was as a rookie out of St. Joseph HS. Has the chance to be something special, and his development would have been one of the major stories of the 2008 season, until a knee injury sidelined him for most of the year. Still shockingly young, and thus is nowhere near a finished product. Has all-star potential and then some.
Offense: A developing offensive center who can get by on effort, athleticism, and vastly improved awareness at this point. Gets most of his offensive from post ups, off of cuts, and from offensive rebounds. Will make some plays running the pick and roll as well. Catches everything thrown to him around the rim. Doesn’t show much of a jump shot. Establishes deep position in the post thanks to his excellent frame. Pretty effective over both shoulders in the post. Developing a nice left hand. Shows much better touch than he did early in his career. Needs to improve his footwork and not settle for tough shots when he’s unable to get deep enough inside. Not bad at putting the ball on the floor once or twice. Extremely nimble and agile. Will pull off some devastating moves at times. Not very turnover prone all things considered. Great offensive rebounder. Length and agility make him a force here. Very good at moving to the open spot by the rim and catching alley oop passes for easy buckets. Gets a lot of dunks by virtue of his teammates. Sets solid screens, and rolls to the rim looking to finish. Becoming an effective offensive player, but is still only scratching the surface of what he can be.
Defense: A difference maker on the defensive end due to his ability to alter shots in the paint. Has the lateral quickness and leaping ability to be a very good shot blocker, but has the potential to be great. Will step out and hedge the pick and roll when he has to. Length and agility allows him to contest everything. A bit foul prone around the rim, but that’s to be expected from a center his age. Improving there at a rapid pace. Displays outstanding rebounding ability, and can go outside of his area to clean the glass. Has the potential to be a force as he continues to gain experience. Needs to learn to go straight up and develop the anticipation and awareness to maximize his incredible physical assets. Understanding of team defensive concepts is not very developed at this point. Lives off his instincts a little too much. Still very young here. |
Revgen's Highlights:
Quote: | 11/02/07: Phoenix, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4BD7LrF2Zg
11/04/07: Utah, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIyWPtGwUMU
11/06/07: New Orleans, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw9Zm_dXG_o
11/09/07: Minnesota, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4vgADe-uFk
11/13/07: San Antonio, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-jBFDv2oK4
11/14/07: Houston, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iByOAxn6FA
11/18/07: Chicago, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AuAFekp-io
11/20/07: Indiana, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmdtS_sE4Ig
11/21/07: Milwaukee, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MphWbPDUR20
11/23/07: Boston, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhjrXr9jhSw
11/25/07: New Jersey, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G7fSoeMtYU
11/27/07: Seattle, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zCU-R89Vb4
11/29/07: Denver, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYPc1pXnn9w
11/30/07: Utah, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiWX4sY2LsM
12/02/07: Orlando, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rSUUTx-gBg
12/09/07: Golden State, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4j3_QUHyk
12/13/07: San Antonio, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3L3YqH953g
12/14/07: Golden State, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFUKavUxWwA
12/16/07: L.A. Clippers, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWIwVElM6iM
12/18/07: Chicago, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqpBL6lfv_w
12/20/07: Cleveland, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_FWaNfxrgw
12/21/07: Philadelphia, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmivaxavS1M
12/23/07: New York, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is_Te33CkMY
12/25/07: Phoenix, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8fODR9mXhs
12/28/07: Utah, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD9l1suhvog
01/06/08: Indiana, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1IPA_VylAE
01/04/08: Philadelphia, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPz5_0ch9A4
01/08/08: Memphis, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1stoux1p6zM
01/09/08: New Orleans, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNNNbA5qTBo
01/11/08: Milwaukee, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOEG2qhdXOA
01/13/08: Memphis, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A_Wprg0cx0
10/29/08: L.A. Clippers, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMEOK_0SQUI
11/01/08: Denver, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADwR-gzwMLU
11/05/08: L.A. Clippers, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92y-dOiLEys
11/09/08: Houston, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa6zIV1aZA0
11/11/08: Dallas, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0NOdCPBFj8
11/12/08: New Orleans, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s30IDZzZKVk
11/14/08: Detriot, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_boFmQEPww
11/18/08: Chicago, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTgMwO9bh9g
11/20/08: Phoenix, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LimvY6So28g
11/21/08: Denver, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv7EFdVsItA
11/23/08: Sacramento, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26IB_bzfejk
12/05/08: Washington, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqUaygpTWnM
12/23/08: New Orleans, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie4P2sQg1uc
12/25/08: Boston, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=picxVtMK-8s
12/28/08: Golden State, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ixKGBIzRGI
01/07/09: Golden State, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrmuMW14R8E
01/27/09: Charlotte, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m45oLItTZ84
01/02/09: Utah, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OedNZFgmQig
04/09/09: Denver, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P5mkfmsFYw
04/12/09: Memphis, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6AmSjmK6tQ
04/14/09: Utah, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ysmASaNFM4
04/21/09: Utah, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CILcR9-F7JU
05/04/09: Houston, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB_Na7TzhuI
05/12/09: Houston, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivtvjIKOH0c
05/17/09: Houston, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHzNWkpaE3E
05/25/09: Denver, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHpcCO8SAq8
06/04/09: Orlando, YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVnCIk2xADQ |
Scouting report, courtesy of Jonathan Givony [LINK], DraftExpress. |
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
Joined: 17 Sep 2008 Posts: 21102 Location: In a white room, with black curtains near the station
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
stare_at_GOATs wrote: | Love that post-game interview. Kobe has forgotten about 41 already, he's transcended. Now MJ in the post. Still under the weather.
If LeBron scored 40 this many times already he'd be jumping around thinking he's the greatest.
Kobe is the master. |
No doubt. Kobe just keeps on developing his game as he moves into his 30's. He works on post moves with people like Hakeem, adding to his arsenal, he knows how to take care of his body, he works long longer hours than anyone else on the team so he can stay on top of his game, as a result he's going to give us a few extra years where we'll stare in wonder at his playmaking even after the big hops are gone. This is how Kobe passes MJ some day on that all-time scoring list, and hopefully title list too. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Lakers For Life Franchise Player
Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 12609 Location: Not "at all" LMAO!
|
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Kobe just came into the locker room in a towel with a bunch of people, cameras, interviewers in the locker room. Whats up with that? _________________ LAKERS ARE THE NBA CHAMPIONS |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|