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Barry Sanders for me.
he would of shattered all the records if he played longer. |
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| I didn't see him play, but the RB most people say is the best is Jim Brown. |
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probably not the best, but my favorite of all-time... Ricky Williams and LaDanian Tomlinson.
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| My favs had to be Bo Jackson and Marcus Allen... best all-time, Sweetness... |
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| TACH wrote: | | My favs had to be Bo Jackson and Marcus Allen... best all-time, Sweetness... |
There you go. Small school running back who wouldn't get a sniff in today's era of combine times. Couldn't out-sprint half his own team. 200 lbs. soaking wet. Not blessed with Sanders elusiveness. But he was Jerry Rice before there was Jerry Rice. The guy who outworked everyone before or since. The superbowl year, at the end of his career, was the first year he played behind a pro-bowl lineman. Unlike guys like Smith and Dickerson, who practically brought their whole line to Hawaii year after year. Played most of his career on a horrible team that just handed him the ball and watched him stsrt shedding tacklers in the backfield. It was once said no one ever tackled Sweetness, because he always tackled his tackler.
Oh, and when terminally ill, he refused to cash in on his fame to move up the list for a liver that would have saved his life.
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| Vishnu wrote: | | I didn't see him play, but the RB most people say is the best is Jim Brown. |
i saw him when i was very little and i watch highlights and old games all the time he had speed power and elusiveness that put him over the top. I think Walter Payton is a close 2nd just because i loved his style of running but im partial towards him because the 85' Bears were one of the best football teams ever assembled. |
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Sanders. What he did without a FB and in the Run & Shoot is truly ridiculous. BUT!...Had Bo-Jack focused solely on football and he didn't crack that hop, he would've been the best ever. No man has ever had that particular combination of size, strength and speed at the RB spot. 6'1, 230lbs, 4.3 - ridamndiculous.
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| LuxuryBrown wrote: | | Sanders. What he did without a FB and in the Run & Shoot is truly ridiculous. BUT!...Had Bo-Jack focused solely on football and he didn't crack that hop, he would've been the best ever. No man has ever had that particular combination of size, strength and speed at the RB spot. 6'1, 230lbs, 4.3 - ridamndiculous. |
Agree on Jackson, in terms of the package. Unbelievable how a guy that big was that fast.
The run and shoot was designed to spread the defense and create seams for Barry Sanders BTW.
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| Walter Payton - Not the biggest, nor the fastest, but the best all around back I've seen with a will to win that was a joy to watch. |
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Gonna go with Emmit Smith. Used his blockers better than anyone has in the position, caught, blocked, was as tough as nails and lasted forever.
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| Barry Sanders. I remember not getting much sleep when I first heard the rumors that Barry might be traded to the Dolphins. Imagine what Barry could have done with Marino's passing threat? The books would have been shattered and they probably would have won a SB together. I hope the Lions and their tard owner go 0-16 EVERY single year. |
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| 24 wrote: | | LuxuryBrown wrote: | | Sanders. What he did without a FB and in the Run & Shoot is truly ridiculous. BUT!...Had Bo-Jack focused solely on football and he didn't crack that hop, he would've been the best ever. No man has ever had that particular combination of size, strength and speed at the RB spot. 6'1, 230lbs, 4.3 - ridamndiculous. |
Agree on Jackson, in terms of the package. Unbelievable how a guy that big was that fast.
The run and shoot was designed to spread the defense and create seams for Barry Sanders BTW. |
There have been rumors Bo was juiced...I just can't bring myself to believe that...but I'm also not foolish enough to rule it out.
And even still, to have no lead blocker...B-San didn't need much of a seam at times when he broke ankles like he was Iverson  .
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| KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | Gonna go with Emmit Smith. Used his blockers better than anyone has in the position, caught, blocked, was as tough as nails and lasted forever. |
The reason I don't put Emmitt in my top 5 is JUST because he had probably the greatest O-Line EVER. Rosie O'Donnell could've run through those holes and behind that line. Emmitt was a good back with a great O-Line, and that then made HIM great.
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| LuxuryBrown wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | LuxuryBrown wrote: | | Sanders. What he did without a FB and in the Run & Shoot is truly ridiculous. BUT!...Had Bo-Jack focused solely on football and he didn't crack that hop, he would've been the best ever. No man has ever had that particular combination of size, strength and speed at the RB spot. 6'1, 230lbs, 4.3 - ridamndiculous. |
Agree on Jackson, in terms of the package. Unbelievable how a guy that big was that fast.
The run and shoot was designed to spread the defense and create seams for Barry Sanders BTW. |
There have been rumors Bo was juiced...I just can't bring myself to believe that...but I'm also not foolish enough to rule it out.
And even still, to have no lead blocker...B-San didn't need much of a seam at times when he broke ankles like he was Iverson . |
Huge Bo fan, huge Raider fan, never heard those rumors... |
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| KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | Gonna go with Emmit Smith. Used his blockers better than anyone has in the position, caught, blocked, was as tough as nails and lasted forever. |
Real hard to use 3-5 probowlers. Emmit got about 3 a carry before he had to do anything besides follow the tackle.
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| LuxuryBrown wrote: | | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | Gonna go with Emmit Smith. Used his blockers better than anyone has in the position, caught, blocked, was as tough as nails and lasted forever. |
The reason I don't put Emmitt in my top 5 is JUST because he had probably the greatest O-Line EVER. Rosie O'Donnell could've run through those holes and behind that line. Emmitt was a good back with a great O-Line, and that then made HIM great. |
not to mention he played on team with a great passing attack which kept the defense from putting 8 in the box. HOF QB, HOF WR, Pro Bowl TE, and..... Alvin Harper, 49er killer  |
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| 24 wrote: | | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | Gonna go with Emmit Smith. Used his blockers better than anyone has in the position, caught, blocked, was as tough as nails and lasted forever. |
Real hard to use 3-5 probowlers. Emmit got about 3 a carry before he had to do anything besides follow the tackle. |
Not as easy at it looks. You've got to read and react and be able to pull the trigger when time comes. As great as Sanders was, for example, I don't think he'd have been better with the Cowboys O line as he was truly running on his own on every play.
There was that one year where Emmitt held out for the first 2 games and the 'boys went 0-2. He came back they went 12-2 and then won the SB.
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| LuxuryBrown wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | LuxuryBrown wrote: | | Sanders. What he did without a FB and in the Run & Shoot is truly ridiculous. BUT!...Had Bo-Jack focused solely on football and he didn't crack that hop, he would've been the best ever. No man has ever had that particular combination of size, strength and speed at the RB spot. 6'1, 230lbs, 4.3 - ridamndiculous. |
Agree on Jackson, in terms of the package. Unbelievable how a guy that big was that fast.
The run and shoot was designed to spread the defense and create seams for Barry Sanders BTW. |
There have been rumors Bo was juiced...I just can't bring myself to believe that...but I'm also not foolish enough to rule it out.
And even still, to have no lead blocker...B-San didn't need much of a seam at times when he broke ankles like he was Iverson . |
It's a tradeoff. That extra lead blocker not being there also pulls a defender out of the box. not to mention the Lions used motion to bring a receiver into the blocking scheme.
All that aside, Barry would be an all-time great no matter when or where he played, IMO. I just like Payton better, because he got the same thing essentially done without the speed or physical talents of the other greats.
And if you think lacking a lead blocker is bad, take a look at what was "blocking" for Payton most of his career. It was a shame to see Emmit pass him, especially since emmit was 3 yards past the line before he had to make his first cut or read, and Payton had to do it 3 yards behind the line.
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| 24 wrote: | | LuxuryBrown wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | LuxuryBrown wrote: | | Sanders. What he did without a FB and in the Run & Shoot is truly ridiculous. BUT!...Had Bo-Jack focused solely on football and he didn't crack that hop, he would've been the best ever. No man has ever had that particular combination of size, strength and speed at the RB spot. 6'1, 230lbs, 4.3 - ridamndiculous. |
Agree on Jackson, in terms of the package. Unbelievable how a guy that big was that fast.
The run and shoot was designed to spread the defense and create seams for Barry Sanders BTW. |
There have been rumors Bo was juiced...I just can't bring myself to believe that...but I'm also not foolish enough to rule it out.
And even still, to have no lead blocker...B-San didn't need much of a seam at times when he broke ankles like he was Iverson . |
It's a tradeoff. That extra lead blocker not being there also pulls a defender out of the box. not to mention the Lions used motion to bring a receiver into the blocking scheme.
All that aside, Barry would be an all-time great no matter when or where he played, IMO. I just like Payton better, because he got the same thing essentially done without the speed or physical talents of the other greats.
And if you think lacking a lead blocker is bad, take a look at what was "blocking" for Payton most of his career. It was a shame to see Emmit pass him, especially since emmit was 3 yards past the line before he had to make his first cut or read, and Payton had to do it 3 yards behind the line. |
Actually, without a FB, that enables the D to stack the box with 8 a lot easier and giving them a better advantage had theys tacked 8 with a FB there.
And yeah, Sweetness didn't have the greatest of lines.
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| LuxuryBrown wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | LuxuryBrown wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | LuxuryBrown wrote: | | Sanders. What he did without a FB and in the Run & Shoot is truly ridiculous. BUT!...Had Bo-Jack focused solely on football and he didn't crack that hop, he would've been the best ever. No man has ever had that particular combination of size, strength and speed at the RB spot. 6'1, 230lbs, 4.3 - ridamndiculous. |
Agree on Jackson, in terms of the package. Unbelievable how a guy that big was that fast.
The run and shoot was designed to spread the defense and create seams for Barry Sanders BTW. |
There have been rumors Bo was juiced...I just can't bring myself to believe that...but I'm also not foolish enough to rule it out.
And even still, to have no lead blocker...B-San didn't need much of a seam at times when he broke ankles like he was Iverson . |
It's a tradeoff. That extra lead blocker not being there also pulls a defender out of the box. not to mention the Lions used motion to bring a receiver into the blocking scheme.
All that aside, Barry would be an all-time great no matter when or where he played, IMO. I just like Payton better, because he got the same thing essentially done without the speed or physical talents of the other greats.
And if you think lacking a lead blocker is bad, take a look at what was "blocking" for Payton most of his career. It was a shame to see Emmit pass him, especially since emmit was 3 yards past the line before he had to make his first cut or read, and Payton had to do it 3 yards behind the line. |
Actually, without a FB, that enables the D to stack the box with 8 a lot easier and giving them a better advantage had theys tacked 8 with a FB there.
And yeah, Sweetness didn't have the greatest of lines. |
Try stacking the box with 4 wideouts, and see where that gets you. The idea of the run and shoot was to force teams into their dime packages, the better to either overload a defense playing the run, or run against a defense where there's really only 5 or 6 in the box.
But, at the end of the day, we're arguing porterhouse vs. ribeye, IMO. Both are prime steaks.
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| 24 wrote: | | LuxuryBrown wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | LuxuryBrown wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | LuxuryBrown wrote: | | Sanders. What he did without a FB and in the Run & Shoot is truly ridiculous. BUT!...Had Bo-Jack focused solely on football and he didn't crack that hop, he would've been the best ever. No man has ever had that particular combination of size, strength and speed at the RB spot. 6'1, 230lbs, 4.3 - ridamndiculous. |
Agree on Jackson, in terms of the package. Unbelievable how a guy that big was that fast.
The run and shoot was designed to spread the defense and create seams for Barry Sanders BTW. |
There have been rumors Bo was juiced...I just can't bring myself to believe that...but I'm also not foolish enough to rule it out.
And even still, to have no lead blocker...B-San didn't need much of a seam at times when he broke ankles like he was Iverson . |
It's a tradeoff. That extra lead blocker not being there also pulls a defender out of the box. not to mention the Lions used motion to bring a receiver into the blocking scheme.
All that aside, Barry would be an all-time great no matter when or where he played, IMO. I just like Payton better, because he got the same thing essentially done without the speed or physical talents of the other greats.
And if you think lacking a lead blocker is bad, take a look at what was "blocking" for Payton most of his career. It was a shame to see Emmit pass him, especially since emmit was 3 yards past the line before he had to make his first cut or read, and Payton had to do it 3 yards behind the line. |
Actually, without a FB, that enables the D to stack the box with 8 a lot easier and giving them a better advantage had theys tacked 8 with a FB there.
And yeah, Sweetness didn't have the greatest of lines. |
Try stacking the box with 4 wideouts, and see where that gets you. The idea of the run and shoot was to force teams into their dime packages, the better to either overload a defense playing the run, or run against a defense where there's really only 5 or 6 in the box.
But, at the end of the day, we're arguing porterhouse vs. ribeye, IMO. Both are prime steaks. |
Teams didn't fear that passing game as much as they feared Barry. Fontes was a joke with that offense and opposing teams knew it. Moore was their only real threat at WR. That's what made it even crazier when Barry would break one off on 'em after stacking 8. Dude was just ridiculous.
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| Barry Sanders was the focal point for of the Lions offense and he is what defenses keyed in on. And he still broke runs off and shook fools like it was nothing. Emmitt was the best at the goal line though but that Cowboys O line was stacked. Props to them. |
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I'd prolly say Barry as well .....
definitely can't forget what Jim Brown accomplished on and off the field.
Both men retired in their primes. Would never say they retired too soon because the pounding of an NFL running back is astronomical.
ECR classmate Jamal Anderson told me he still doesn't feel right ..... |
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| Quote: | | ECR classmate Jamal Anderson told me he still doesn't feel right ..... |
I remember when Marshall Faulk was asked after his knee surgery, does he feel the same as he did the season before and he responded "Man, back in Pop Warner, the very first time I got hit my body NEVER felt the same" ...He was so right - after you get your first hit...your body ain't ever the same.
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